Dan Andrews vs Gladys Berejiklian: Whose damage is worse?

[Sttew]

Maybe aware they were getting more maybe wasn’t aware of the full amount but I think we are in full speculative area now

We, as in us on BF? Daniel had his rant which he does like clockwork every month or so, when he needs to deflect (not complaining about that; it's good political strategy and gets followers in hook line and sinker every time). And I'm sure the imbalance will be rectified.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Fair enough, and what if I told you Andrews was fully aware of what vac distributions NSW was getting, but only made a song and dance about it after the Herald Sun (yes, a Murdoch paper) published its report?

link?

 

[Crankyhawk]

We, as in us on BF? Daniel had his rant which he does like clockwork every month or so, when he needs to deflect (not complaining about that; it's good political strategy and gets followers in hook line and sinker every time). And I'm sure the imbalance will be rectified.

We as in you and me.
And there was also a 730 report on this issue, so can’t give credit to only Murdoch press for the attention.
I will believe rectification when I see it.
I currently do not see it.

 

[Maggie5]

link?

Beat me to it. I thought it was the ABC that first reported it.

Sttew, I too would like to see the link and when it was reported.

 

[QuietB]

Fair enough, and what if I told you Andrews was fully aware of what vac distributions NSW was getting, but only made a song and dance about it after the Herald Sun (yes, a Murdoch paper) published its report?

This is a 100% false statement.

Yes Andrews and the Vic state government only responded when they found out but that was only last weekend. It is very convenient to dismiss all state premiers complaints as simply politics or cheap shots, but the fact is it is legitimate criticism against poor (horrible) governing.

In answer to the OP'S question, Glady's is taking delight in pushing the NSW Health systems to its absolute limit and it is unclear if it will hold up or not yet. Andrews has been mega conservative but really the only things that could be different are at the margins (children's playgrounds, childcare, year 11/12's).

The most damage has clearly been caused by the Federal Government. They have completely failed to prepare Australia for what is coming. The one job they eventually agreed to take responsibility for, vaccines, they have completely screwed up.

Gladys screwed up the limo driver but it was inevitable on of these virus strains was getting in. W should have been prepared.

We are in lockdown solely because we are not vaccinated. So all of the mental anguish and economic damage rests squarely with who is responsible for Australia not being vaccinated, and that is Morrison.

 

[eddiesmith]

Howe come no-one mention the fact there are hundreds of elderly Victorians waiting north of the border but unable to return home. These people are double dosed and test negative but not allowed home.

Because the same people who kiss Dans ass on a daily basis don’t want anyone entering from NSW, even those who are closer to Melbourne’s out of control outbreaks than Sydney…

 

[eddiesmith]

Fair enough, and what if I told you Andrews was fully aware of what vac distributions NSW was getting, but only made a song and dance about it after the Herald Sun (yes, a Murdoch paper) published its report?

In fairness Dan has said before he suffers from severe amnesia and he doesn’t remember what happened the day before let alone weeks ago

 

[Sttew]

This is a 100% false statement.

Yes Andrews and the Vic state government only responded when they found out but that was only last weekend. It is very convenient to dismiss all state premiers complaints as simply politics or cheap shots, but the fact is it is legitimate criticism against poor (horrible) governing.

Prove that he didn't know. He may not have known precise numbers, but he knew. He has so much intel coming into his Politburo (the PPO) that he doesn't miss a beat.

Andrews has been mega conservative but really the only things that could be different are at the margins (children's playgrounds, childcare, year 11/12's).

...And locking down country Victoria? Nobody has yet been able to tell me in this forum why country Victoria was locked down, and why all of a sudden, that lockdown (with the exception of Shepparton) can be lifted.

 

[Maggie5]

Prove that he didn't know. He may not have known precise numbers, but he knew. He has so much intel coming into his Politburo (the PPO) that he doesn't miss a beat.



...And locking down country Victoria? Nobody has yet been able to tell me in this forum why country Victoria was locked down, and why all of a sudden, that lockdown (with the exception of Shepparton) can be lifted.

Found that link yet?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Prove that he didn't know. He may not have known precise numbers, but he knew. He has so much intel coming into his Politburo (the PPO) that he doesn't miss a beat.



...And locking down country Victoria? Nobody has yet been able to tell me in this forum why country Victoria was locked down, and why all of a sudden, that lockdown (with the exception of Shepparton) can be lifted.

Curious, how do you prove someone doesn't know something?

 

[QuietB]

Prove that he didn't know.

Prove he did know. You are the one making the accusations.

You are unbelievable - make some stupid made up outlandish statement and present it as fact and then you put the onus of proof on others to disprove it.

**** off

 

[kranky al]

We, as in us on BF? Daniel had his rant which he does like clockwork every month or so, when he needs to deflect (not complaining about that; it's good political strategy and gets followers in hook line and sinker every time). And I'm sure the imbalance will be rectified.

Interesting that he took it off labor states but not liberal sa

 

[Sttew]

Found that link yet?

I have to provide a link yet your leftist buddies can make any stupid and outlandish comments and statements, and when challenged, respond with the usual profanity and snipes.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I have to provide a link yet your leftist buddies can make any stupid and outlandish comments and statements, and when challenged, respond with the usual profanity and snipes.

You sound like an angry little man. Cheer up.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Prove that he didn't know. He may not have known precise numbers, but he knew. He has so much intel coming into his Politburo (the PPO) that he doesn't miss a beat.



...And locking down country Victoria? Nobody has yet been able to tell me in this forum why country Victoria was locked down, and why all of a sudden, that lockdown (with the exception of Shepparton) can be lifted.

Rapid spread so had to be sure it had not gone into regions (like it did in Shepparton)

 

[eddiesmith]

Prove that he didn't know. He may not have known precise numbers, but he knew. He has so much intel coming into his Politburo (the PPO) that he doesn't miss a beat.



...And locking down country Victoria? Nobody has yet been able to tell me in this forum why country Victoria was locked down, and why all of a sudden, that lockdown (with the exception of Shepparton) can be lifted.

Well because much like Dan they’re of the belief that if they have to be locked down then everyone should be locked down.

Plus like the government they don’t give a s**t about regional Victorians.

 

[Kwality]

Found that link yet?

Maybe this:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/one-million-extra-vaccine-doses-half-bound-for-sydney-s-hotspots-

20210815-p58iva.html

Cant give you anything more as its pay for view from 3 weeks back.

 

[Maggie5]

I have to provide a link yet your leftist buddies can make any stupid and outlandish comments and statements, and when challenged, respond with the usual profanity and snipes.

Oh it was just a lie, I get it, okay.
Just like Gladys, Scomo and Hunt.

 

[Maggie5]

Maybe this:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/one-million-extra-vaccine-doses-half-bound-for-sydney-s-hotspots-

20210815-p58iva.html

Cant give you anything more as its pay for view from 3 weeks back.

I get error message and since when is SMH a Murdoch publication?

More like this:

NSW got 45 per cent of the Pfizer vaccines allocated to GPs last month, data shows

An analysis of publicly available data raises more questions about the way COVID-19 vaccines have been distributed in Australia since the rollout started to ramp up in the middle of the year.

www.abc.net.au

and this

One million extra vaccine doses, half bound for Sydney’s hotspots

Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the additional doses would be enough to vaccinate everyone in the 20-39 age bracket in Sydney’s 12 highest risk local government areas.

www.smh.com.au

News did come out with something but it was after. Good to see it was pretty accurate confirming the report.

 

[Todman]

I have to provide a link yet your leftist buddies can make any stupid and outlandish comments and statements, and when challenged, respond with the usual profanity and snipes.

I already posted the link. Of Course these lefties ridiculed it without bothering to watch. They believe Laura Tingle doesn't lie.[/QUOTE]

 

[Kwality]

I get error message and since when is SMH a Murdoch publication?

More like this:

NSW got 45 per cent of the Pfizer vaccines allocated to GPs last month, data shows

An analysis of publicly available data raises more questions about the way COVID-19 vaccines have been distributed in Australia since the rollout started to ramp up in the middle of the year.

www.abc.net.au

and this

One million extra vaccine doses, half bound for Sydney’s hotspots

Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the additional doses would be enough to vaccinate everyone in the 20-39 age bracket in Sydney’s 12 highest risk local government areas.

www.smh.com.au

News did come out with something but it was after. Good to see it was pretty accurate confirming the report.

Could it be the regurgitation of mid August news that put Stew off ?

 

[Maggie5]

Could it be the regurgitation of mid August news that put Stew off ?

Go away.

 

[Maddhew]

Funny how its ok to blame NSW yet racist to blame China..... #proglogik

It was Racist when Scomo closed the border to India when Delta originated and spread.

 

[Gough]

It was Racist when Scomo closed the border to India when Delta originated and spread.

It was racist when he tried to criminalise return from India as compared to other countries in similair situations. Closed international borders have widespread support.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

It was Racist when Scomo closed the border to India when Delta originated and spread.

Ah, so Gladys is a freedom fighter, literally opening doors for Delta.

I can see your point of view now.