List Mgmt. Dan Hannebery - 5 year deal & Pick 28 to St.Kilda for Pick 39 & 2019 2nd Round Pick

[SaintsSeptember]

You obviously don't want him so no point discussing it with you.

My post was more about the fact that we only have our first rounder and a cluster of 4th.
I don't want him for a first rounder. As stated, we don't know if he's going to be any good.

A future second is probably about right, maybe with a third back.

We can't really count hypothetical trades unless there's some real suggestion that they'll happen.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

west coast has two second round picks and one of them is gold coasts.
if you get that for hickey would you think that would be a fair trade for hanners?

Sounds about right to me.

 

[The Punter]

If we got pick 20 for Hickey (and I'd be happy to sweeten that with pick 57), then I feel that we could move pick 20 (and pick 61) on to Sydney for Hannebury and pick 34.

But I'm dreaming.

 

[triggering bro]

If we got pick 20 for Hickey (and I'd be happy to sweeten that with pick 57), then I feel that we could move pick 20 (and pick 61) on to Sydney for Hannebury and pick 34.

But I'm dreaming.

No reason to get cute. Just give Sydney the option of pick 20 or 2019 2nd rounder. Then move on to the Shiel-deal!

 

[Txiki]

Can’t help but think whatever we get for Hickey will be given to the Swans for Hanners.

Pick 35 more likely than 20.

 

[Keg on legs]

Yep. Just give them what we get for Tom (plus late pick for points if required)

We need to keep 2019 2nd. If we trade it we can't trade next year's 1st for shiel.


* i think...

 

[sainterryan]

Yea

Can’t help but think whatever we get for Hickey will be given to the Swans for Hanners.

Pick 35 more likely than 20.

Agree, if we trade next years second then I don’t think we can trade next years first so if we r looking to land a Shiel type this trade may be critical

 

[Darkhour]

Why is that , because he kicked two against the hawks in Tassie on day ? One of them was some form of drop punt that doesn't have a name , it was spinning all directions
Being serious , he isn't a good kick

Roberton

 

[Persevering Saint]

If Roberton isn't a good kick then no one is.

That's in your opinion

Yep, but it's a pretty well informed and considered one...

 

[VDS66]

Yep, but it's a pretty well informed and considered one...

Anyone that's watched Noone at Sandy knows he's a good kick...

 

[Indie Rock]

west coast has two second round picks and one of them is gold coasts.
if you get that for hickey would you think that would be a fair trade for hanners?

I’d be happy to do Hanners for Hickey in a straight swap so would have to say yes.

 

[VDS66]

My post was more about the fact that we only have our first rounder and a cluster of 4th.
I don't want him for a first rounder. As stated, we don't know if he's going to be any good.

A future second is probably about right, maybe with a third back.

We can't really count hypothetical trades unless there's some real suggestion that they'll happen.

Doubt we will pay a first for him. Sydney need space and will come to the party.

Worth a late second. Maybe the pick we get for Hickey, unless we want to use that this year, in which case next year's second.

As others have suggested, if we need next year's first to execute a big trade then we can't trade our second as well.

I'm happy to have him TBH. Will provide some much needed physicality and take some heat off the others. I reckon Steele will benefit most.

 

[JG22]

So Terry Wallet said that Hanners was cooked, the wrong type for Saints and it is trading incompetence to trade him in. Well he was at the press conference yesterday, did he put any of this to Dan?

He also said in his original comments that it was nothing against the player, they are free to get the best deal they can.

 

[Longmembrey]

He also said in his original comments that it was nothing against the player, they are free to get the best deal they can.

Mate when someone says it is "incompetence" for a club to trade for you, then that is most definitely a criticism of the player.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Mate when someone says it is "incompetence" for a club to trade for you, then that is most definitely a criticism of the player.

That's not necessarily true, it could mean the type of player.

 

[SaintWWodonga]

Hanners normally destroys us when we play the Swans. Thank god he'll be on our side next time.

 

[VDS66]

Hanners normally destroys us when we play the Swans. Thank god he'll be on our side next time.

Just like Schneider.

I hope Hanndrs can kick straighter in a GF...

 

[projectv]

As much as I'd love to see Hickey traded, and that Hickey for Hannebury is a pretty good deal for us... and then apparently we chase Shiel.

This begs the question - who will be our Ruck next year? Who are we bringing in if this plays out? Lycett seems off to Port, we don't seem to be chasing Preuss.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Can you remember what they gave up for him?

Nothing except money.

 

[FlyingSledghamer]

Nothing except money.

Yeah i see Hanners like Wells. He only really has to be fit and firing at the right time and he could win you a premiership.
But Hanners has even more chance of getting back to full fitness and will play more games. Younger and didnt have a major history of injuries before last year. Future 2nd is a great trade imo.

 

[King_Knut]

Before he went down Robbo's kicking wasn't great. Those disposal efficiency numbers flatter him a bit because he'd always bomb it greater than 40m (without great success might I add).
Ross had 75% disposal efficiency as well. It isn't a great stat.

 

[The Punter]

Obviously needs to be a "disposal excellence" stat. Ross rarely wastes the ball, but often there's little on offer for a player of his skill when he is under pressure. He often makes the "least worst" decision by foot.

Both Ross and Roberton were excellent kicks last season, and this is part of the reason they went 1-2 in the 2017 B&F.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Hanners normally destroys us when we play the Swans. Thank god he'll be on our side next time.

Based on that logic, the Cats should pick up Minchington

 

[Darkhour]

Before he went down Robbo's kicking wasn't great. Those disposal efficiency numbers flatter him a bit because he'd always bomb it greater than 40m (without great success might I add).
Ross had 75% disposal efficiency as well. It isn't a great stat.

Of course it is, it can't really be anything but unless its reported incorrectly and there are enough eyes across the competition to ensure thats not the case.

Could their be a disposal excellence stat where every position hits to the advantage of a teammate, probably is.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Before he went down Robbo's kicking wasn't great. Those disposal efficiency numbers flatter him a bit because he'd always bomb it greater than 40m (without great success might I add).
Ross had 75% disposal efficiency as well. It isn't a great stat.

Insiders typically have lower efficiency stats to a good outside mid. Simply because of the scrum that the onballers have to contend with.
You want your defenders to have really high efficiency. Roberton played as more of a rebounder though.