Jesus, we could get 8 James Kelly’s for that!Interesting development....
No chance that will happenI don't know what is allowable or customary in AFL trading, but here is scenario from way outside the box.
To me if TK continues on his present trajectory he should be worth the equivalent of a best 22 player or 2 very high picks. But it looks like GFC will neither get 2 actual first round picks(to me that is a pick before any club has picked twice at minimum), nor a ready to play best 22 player. So possibly we get 2 picks somewhere in the first~second round range which would be unders for such an influential player. So what if the AFL kicks in another pick, call it compensation or 'priority' pick. There's probably no protocol for this at the moment, but the AFL can and will do whatever they feel like. So my question is; now with 3 highish picks can GFC bundle them in someway into a swap for an actual top ten pick or more? Basically using an AFL conjured high pick to seed some creative trading. More than likely completely ridiculous, but the situation might need some creativity to satisfy each party some.
full article: https://outline.com/K7Lm9UNow Ralph has penned an article saying we might be offering 5x1 year deals
Paywalled so just going by Jon's twitter
Geelong and Tim Kelly’s management are exploring radical deals that could see him handed long-term security but still able to ask for a trade mid-contract.
Kelly’s manager Anthony van der Wielen told the Herald Sun he was still unsure whether his client would ask for a trade at year’s end.
But he has asked Cats list manager Stephen Wells to work on some creative alternatives that could allow Kelly to stay for next year but not be fully tied into a four or five-year deal.
For instance Kelly might be offered the security of a five-year contract that allows him to leave at any time.
In effect it would be structured as a one-year deal for 2020 then four more one-year deals on triggers he can approve that provide guaranteed money.
Or the Cats might offer an initial two-year deal with three further one-year deals which Kelly can agree to commit to as his contract progresses.
Van Der Wielen is determined to secure his client some financial security in a sporting landscape where NBA star Kevin Durant tore his achilles this week, putting in jeopardy massive free agency offers.
He has not yet committed to staying at Geelong but as negotiations stagnated he is looking for left-field solutions that might allow him to remain.
Those kind of left-field deals would have to be approved by the AFL’s salary cap guru Ken Wood, who showed more leniency in the Josh Kelly contract at GWS this year.
He has a two-year contract with a six-year trigger that is almost certain to be enacted unless the bottom falls out of the Giants.
Despite reports of an $800,000 price tag, he said the club hadn’t even put figures to him yet as they worked through the types of deals he could sign.
West Coast and Fremantle continue to make clear how interested they are in a player leading the AFL Coaches Association award from stars like Patrick Cripps and Patrick Dangerfield.
“To a certain extent Tim has to make up his mind what he wants to do and that will be predicated by what offers come forward,” van der Wielen said.
“It won’t just be about money, it will be about family first and we will see what happens.”
“I can’t tell you if he is staying at Geelong or coming home but we really don’t know. It will come down to what is on offer and what it means for Tim’s family.”
“We are really just talking a framework. How can we get creative and what would it mean for a commitment. It is really just talking very openly and honestly about what are our options.”
In commercial real estate owners have to offer minimum terms — often five years — to their clients which they can then take up one year at a time.
The Kelly family is not in a position to accept a four or five year deal but if they have some comfort about asking for a trade at some stage might still stay.
I think it indicates how much he enjoys playing in our group , and would like a bailout if the WA sides can not satisfy Geelong. He will not be going into a draft situation ..and at the very least ..it means the trade situations tilts marginally our way. Both WA side would now know ..no more one man bands for the concert ... they need to bring all the brass and all the strings and all choir ... and it all better be in tune.Without wanting to be too optimistic, if Kelly is asking his manager to explore these type of deals it would indicate a preparedness to stay at Geelong for at least one, maybe two further seasons. You’d take that.
I think with Tippett, the agreement to trade him was made outside of his contract i.e. hidden from the AFL (along with extra payments). I imagine as long as we present the Kelly arrangement in full to old Uncle Steve and get the AFL's tick of approval, we should be fine.On the assumption that his option to leave early would be limited to WCE or Freo, what's the difference from the Tippett Case?