Opinion Dangerfield is Injured

[UnitedWarrior93]

Clearly he is injured, he hasn't got that burst of speed. What is wrong with him? Don't know, doubt we'll find out too.

I think you'll find he will be managed through it. Really can't afford him to miss games because he is that important.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Hawk missed the 2013 QF with that back injury. Shocking mismanagement.

Why?
Are you a doctor specialising in what was wrong with Hawkins?
Everyone said rest would do nothing, it was a week to week thing to see if he got up, he didn't for that game.
That's it.

 

[fpm84]

Why?
Are you a doctor specialising in what was wrong with Hawkins?
Everyone said rest would do nothing, it was a week to week thing to see if he got up, he didn't for that game.
That's it.

Perhaps his injury wasn't getting worse by him being out there, but you can't honestly say week or two off late in the season, without people flying into his back, wouldn't have made some difference.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Perhaps his injury wasn't getting worse by him being out there, but you can't honestly say week or two off late in the season, without people flying into his back, wouldn't have made some difference.

No idea.
I'd like to think the professionals in charge would know what was right.
His back in 2013 cost us the flag.

 

[fpm84]

His back in 2013 cost us the flag.

His back, Enright's injury in the QF and Chapman's suspension.

Reverse just one of those three elements and we beat Hawthorn in the prelim.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

His back, Enright's injury in the QF and Chapman's suspension.

Reverse just one of those three elements and we beat Hawthorn in the prelim.

And no ruck.
What a waste of a year...
Ah well not the thread for it.

 

[Grimoz]

He shouldnt have been out there, seems to be struggling with his breathing the last 2 weeks. If you watch him he is really struggling to suck big ones in, needs a break.

 

[Landgraft]

Clearly he is injured, he hasn't got that burst of speed. What is wrong with him? Don't know, doubt we'll find out too.

I think you'll find he will be managed through it. Really can't afford him to miss games because he is that important.

I'm alright with him missing games. If that will get him back to 100% then so be it and our other mids can either step up or forever resign themselves from anything meaningful.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

No idea.
I'd like to think the professionals in charge would know what was right.
His back in 2013 cost us the flag.

nope. Sorry, the Bigfooty experts know all. Lounge room Doctors the lot of them!!

 

[walker80]

Still refused to man the mark today. Last quarter Pies player basically played on and walked around Danger who just stood there, put no pressure on and watched. Again multiple times pointed for others to cover players or space while he just stood around.

I mentioned this last week and he was at it again. Don't care how good you are, these 1%'s should be non negotiable.

Having said that he wasn't alone in the pressure stakes. Although that's a few weeks in a row now Danger has taken the easy option with his defensive game. He can't just been an amazing attacking player, he has to go both ways.

 

[Vdubs]

He shouldnt have been out there, seems to be struggling with his breathing the last 2 weeks. If you watch him he is really struggling to suck big ones in, needs a break.

A break in the ribs.
But he wouldn't put his hand up to play if he was really bad.

 

[JackFlash]

Should be rested this week, we are not beating the Suns anyway up there, Ablett will have a field day, so rest Dangerfield.

 

[Tony Barber]

Can't blame it on him.
Just about every mid sucked today. But I said in team selection this was the game to rest him.
Boat missed.

 

[Daniel McL]

Can't blame it on him.
Just about every mid sucked today. But I said in team selection this was the game to rest him.
Boat missed.

How is the boat missed aha? All we have to do is say Dangerfield out (soreness) this week and there's his rest.

The boat's still there in the harbour mate it just depends if the Cats will let Paddy get on it.

 

[Tinlids]

Still refused to man the mark today. Last quarter Pies player basically played on and walked around Danger who just stood there, put no pressure on and watched. Again multiple times pointed for others to cover players or space while he just stood around.

I mentioned this last week and he was at it again. Don't care how good you are, these 1%'s should be non negotiable.

Having said that he wasn't alone in the pressure stakes. Although that's a few weeks in a row now Danger has taken the easy option with his defensive game. He can't just been an amazing attacking player, he has to go both ways.

Totally agree with this. I also think he was just about the slowest player on the field today. He was chased down on a lot of occasions where he usually breaks free and the pies Mids easily outran him with the pill. It's very un danger like and its currently a liability to the team. I'd rather someone come in and add some defensive pressure at least. Give him a week off or play him a full forward.

 

[dazbroncos]

An injured core. You may well be right.
What we saw last year was never going to be repeated this year though imho. That was out there, and superior to any year he'd had at Adelaide. We have seen his best, and those efforts come at a cost, and maybe that's what we are seeing now.
And ditto, I could be just as wrong.Of course he will still be awesome and "Danger", but that recurrent jack-in-the-box explosiveness we can not expect week after week.

Agree with last year being out of the box, but the ability to do it seems to have vanished recently and IMO that's a core issue - especially related back to the massive blows he took.

He did it in the North game I think and I aint see it since. Anyway, they wont tell us as soon it becomes public knowledge and he plays with it he will get targeted even more.

Just hope he gets back to 95% soon... no player by this time of year plays at 100% anyway.

Go Catters

 

[Partridge]

Agree with last year being out of the box, but the ability to do it seems to have vanished recently and IMO that's a core issue - especially related back to the massive blows he took.

He did it in the North game I think and I aint see it since. Anyway, they wont tell us as soon it becomes public knowledge and he plays with it he will get targeted even more.

Just hope he gets back to 95% soon... no player by this time of year plays at 100% anyway.

If he plays the season out when clearly not right, then misses a final, people can't claim "well no one could have predicted it". Because it can, and is being predicted right now.

It's very simple. If he needs rest then rest him until he's recovered. Like any other player. If we can't cover the loss of one player we're in trouble anyway.

 

[Seeds]

Doesn't need a spell, rest does absolutely nothing.
You can and do play right through it, it hurts sure, might mean you a slightly off due to it but time off does absolutely zero.
Clearly the club thinks (as they should) a 90% Dangerfield is better than a 0% Dangerfield.

Do we not remember they had the same argument for Hawkins in 2013 and then we watched as he got worse and worse as the season went on and couldn't even play the first final as a result

 

[Seeds]

Still kicking bombs from 55m on the left....
He's not THAT down.

He was so bad that the pies didn't even bother to put a man next to him in the middle after half time. His game also got worse and worse as the afternoon wore on. He was ok in the opening. But after that he was just a passenger. Not his fault. The injury is clearly troubling him and was a lot worse this week then last week. Last week he was at 80-90 percent and this week more like started at 70 and ended the game around 40.

 

[Partridge]

He was so bad that the pies didn't even bother to put a man next to him in the middle after half time. His game also got worse and worse as the afternoon wore on. He was ok in the opening. But after that he was just a passenger. Not his fault. The injury is clearly troubling him and was a lot worse this week then last week. Last week he was at 80-90 percent and this week more like started at 70 and ended the game around 40.

This is where footballers are their own worst enemy. They'll always think they're good to go (the financial incentive for x number of games would play a part too no doubt). It's one relic from football's past that just doesn't seem to be going away.

 

[Seeds]

This is where footballers are their own worst enemy. They'll always think they're good to go (the financial incentive for x number of games would play a part too no doubt). It's one relic from football's past that just doesn't seem to be going away.

Whats really worrying is the club seems to have this attitude too and dont seem to believe that injuries can get worse if he plays week in week out. There is a difference between staying flexible and playing crash and bash football. A rest doesn't mean sitting in bed for a week.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Do we not remember they had the same argument for Hawkins in 2013 and then we watched as he got worse and worse as the season went on and couldn't even play the first final as a result

Yeah, his back continued to get worse yet those who hold degrees and work with him every single day said rest would do nothing for him.
Perhaps you know more than they do?

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Do we not remember they had the same argument for Hawkins in 2013 and then we watched as he got worse and worse as the season went on and couldn't even play the first final as a result

Who says Hawkins back got worse as the season went on ? you

I will put it simple for all you armchair doctors

1.Hawkins back was not going to get better during 2013 , it needed more time to heal .
2.Hawkins playing was not going to make his back condition worse .
3.They symptoms that were aggravated by him playing did not need a full week to recover .
4. Hawkins did not miss the QF because he had played too much football , he most likely did something in the few days before the game that aggravated his symptoms.

The club did nothing worng and will do the right thing by danger.

 

[Seeds]

Who says Hawkins back got worse as the season went on ? you

I will put it simple for all you armchair doctors

1.Hawkins back was not going to get better during 2013 , it needed more time to heal .
2.Hawkins playing was not going to make his back condition worse .
3.They symptoms that were aggravated by him playing did not need a full week to recover .
4. Hawkins did not miss the QF because he had played too much football , he most likely did something in the few days before the game that aggravated his symptoms.

The club did nothing worng and will do the right thing by danger.

What garbage

 

[geelong_crazy26]

What garbage

You don't think that its garbage that the club doctors and any specialists who's advice they thought outside the club did not realise that playing Hawkins was making his back worse ?

Go and ask anyone who has a bad back and they will tell you that they just have some bad days , it was just bad luck that the QF was a bad day .

Does anyone really think Danger has a serious back problem anyway ?