Oppo Camp Dangerfield's Gone (Zero tolerance to trolling) - READ THREAD LINKED IN OP BEFORE POSTING

[Bay62]

How does that spud have a career in media?

Let us ponder the average football follower...

 

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Port flogs would be shaking their heads I would reckon.....

hahahahaha

or they would say

"lets flood Hutchy's twitter account with messages when we match Geelong"

 

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Got a bad feeling that we're gonna get screwed and not match for some reason

If we don't match due to Geelong putting a monster deal in front of Dangerfield that the AFC is not prepared to match, then I would be fine with taking the compo and moving on.

 

[feenix67]

However do we need him in terms of type of player?

Plays hard but gets plenty of outside ball too. Good pace, decent leg, goalkicker. What's not to like?

 

[Bicks]

agree with you , the weakness of this draft is over rated , there may be less obvious talent after pick 25 but there is still talent and the pointy end is v strong

Me too, I reckon their are at lest a half dozen "Boom or Bust" types in this years draft that will most likely go later in the draft or even in the rookie draft. That SA guy Jaydn Brind being one of them, Yestin Eades an indigenous WA youngster been playing for the Ballarat Rebels has plenty of X factor about him, love to take him with a late pick or rookie, so much Charlie Cameron about him and he's done it tough personally and family wise.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...untry-and-snowy-ballarat-20150518-gh4cqh.html

 

[Wood_Duck]

hahahahaha

or they would say

"lets flood Hutchy's twitter account with messages when we match Geelong"

..............and if we dont?


People were saying similar about Jay Clark when Dangerfield re-signed.

 

[MRB37]

Retired from Hawthorn, or should I say pushed?

I'd say pushed. I'd also say they did so because they have a target in mind. Get ready for them to enter the Henderson or Carlisle race!

 

[adelaidecrows]

..............and if we dont?


People were saying similar about Jay Clark when Dangerfield re-signed.

If we don't match I guess we demand Fagen, Roo and Noble's heads! Again as a supporter group we are betrayed by scared administrators not prepared to make a stand.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

How does that spud have a career in media? Genuine simpleton he is.

He is there for comedy

 

[Wood_Duck]

If we don't match I guess we demand Fagen, Roo and Noble's heads! Again as a supporter group we are betrayed by scared administrators not prepared to make a stand.

Yes that will be proof that they are actually working against the club and secretly trying to bring about its demise.

 

[ADL9798]

All this talk about weak drafts. It's a crap shoot. Tom Boyd was to have been a walk up Coleman Medallist the way he was talked up. Heck, James Aish was a can't miss...

Yes there can be a few more talls in one draft than another, but in the end with first rounders it always comes down to picking the player you think is best for the position you need, develop well and hope for the best.

Eg Maybe 2008 was a weak draft, but we found Sloane at 44, the Cats found Motlop at 39

The term 'weak draft' also doesn't account for the differing capacities of clubs to set professional standards and develop the players they draft in. Some clubs are obviously much better at this than others and consequently relative draft position becomes far less relevant.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Plays hard but gets plenty of outside ball too. Good pace, decent leg, goalkicker. What's not to like?

Small forward type

We have plenty of quality in this space

We don't need another 175cm type of player

We have other more pressing needs

 

[feenix67]

Small forward type

We have plenty of quality in this space

We don't need another 175cm type of player

We have other more pressing needs

Will play mid. Ask Caleb Daniel about size

 

[adelaidecrows]

Yes that will be proof that they are actually working against the club and secretly trying to bring about its demise.

lol, it's not the point of bringing about the demise of the AFC, its about accepting mediocrity against what they have always said. The clubs administrators have just bent over time and time again and we have nothing to show for it. Its time for making statements. I would rather lose Dangerfield for nothing in the PSD than sell out for a below par deal by taking compo.

 

[oldcrowgirl]

We need rangy flanker/wing types that are quick but most importantly can use the ball well. I don't have a problem with our midfield, particularly if Crouch gets back to full fitness and stays there.

Look at Hawthorn.

I feel concerned about Brad Crouch's progress or lack of progress. IIRC his foot was trodden on during the preseason but he has required a couple of surgical procedures since then and was in a moonboot last I saw in the media. Will his foot ever heal properly or will it end up being similar to the navicular injuries that ruin players' careers.

Agree that with B.Crouch fit, our midfield is in pretty good shape and quick 'rangy flanker/wing type/s are needed.

 

[hippyhippy]

lol, it's not the point of bringing about the demise of the AFC, its about accepting mediocrity against what they have always said. The clubs administrators have just bent over time and time again and we have nothing to show for it. Its time for making statements. I would rather lose Dangerfield for nothing in the PSD than sell out for a below par deal by taking compo.

so true .. cant beleive the amount of people here willing to accept pick 9 and effectively a 2nd or 3rd round worth ... for danger .. too many here accepting mediocrity.

 

[hippyhippy]

But you aren't factoring in the risk of getting a guy through the National Draft.

The pick number is irrelevant once they hit the field.

Using your logic, Pick 9 + Jack Watts (pick 1) is a win

Gregson has shown he was a bargain at that pick. Like Sloane who was taken at #44 - or do you not rate him either?

i do rate sloany .. if sloan played for geelong and it was pick 9 and sloane for danger i'd take it .. unfortunately ... gregson is no sloane.

 

[kidkenobi]

The clubs administrators have just bent over time and time again and we have nothing to show for it. Its time for making statements. I would rather lose Dangerfield for nothing in the PSD than sell out for a below par deal by taking compo.

That's because you're thinking emotionally about it, it won't happen because it would be irresponsible management to lose Danger for nothing. The club would only be hurting itself in that instance. As much as Geelong want the addition of Danger, they wouldn't actually be losing anything. Even Stephen Wells said he didn't want Adelaide to get nothing.

I think everyone gets burnt at some point in the draft/trading game, but it's hard to prevent that sometimes. You can't fight it to the extent that you're hurting yourself, you just gotta keep moving forward and take the wins when they come along

 

[hippyhippy]

That's because you're thinking emotionally about it, it won't happen because it would be irresponsible management to lose Danger for nothing. The club would only be hurting itself in that instance. As much as Geelong want the addition of Danger, they wouldn't actually be losing anything. Even Stephen Wells said he didn't want Adelaide to get nothing.

I think everyone gets burnt at some point in the draft/trading game, but it's hard to prevent that sometimes. You can't fight it to the extent that you're hurting yourself, you just gotta keep moving forward and take the wins when they come along

by your logic .. every club should just accept whatever piss weak offer opposition clubs put forward ... complete bs ... rather send him to brisbane... if geelong dont have currency .. dont go shopping.

 

[adelaidecrows]

That's because you're thinking emotionally about it, it won't happen because it would be irresponsible management to lose Danger for nothing. The club would only be hurting itself in that instance. As much as Geelong want the addition of Danger, they wouldn't actually be losing anything. Even Stephen Wells said he didn't want Adelaide to get nothing.

I think everyone gets burnt at some point in the draft/trading game, but it's hard to prevent that sometimes. You can't fight it to the extent that you're hurting yourself, you just gotta keep moving forward and take the wins when they come along

Making a statement is short term pain for long term gain. If the Crows continually role over and let players walk to other clubs out of being afraid they won't get anything players and their managers will continually use those precedents as examples to why the Crows should let them go. In a professional port, walking out on a club to go home is not a professional reason and hence The Crows have every right to make a statement and demand adequate compensation or you don't get a free pass to the club of choice. Family is only an excuse if someone is sick which in most cases clubs are happy to take unders and lose players in those horrible circumstances.

 

[Jars458]

That's because you're thinking emotionally about it, it won't happen because it would be irresponsible management to lose Danger for nothing. The club would only be hurting itself in that instance. As much as Geelong want the addition of Danger, they wouldn't actually be losing anything. Even Stephen Wells said he didn't want Adelaide to get nothing.

I think everyone gets burnt at some point in the draft/trading game, but it's hard to prevent that sometimes. You can't fight it to the extent that you're hurting yourself, you just gotta keep moving forward and take the wins when they come along

We risk pick 14 by matching that's a given. It has to a least be double or quits or you wouldn't bother matching. We match and get two first roundrers or nothing, that's the gamble and one we have to take.

 

[NikkiNoo]

lol, it's not the point of bringing about the demise of the AFC, its about accepting mediocrity against what they have always said. The clubs administrators have just bent over time and time again and we have nothing to show for it. Its time for making statements. I would rather lose Dangerfield for nothing in the PSD than sell out for a below par deal by taking compo.

You do realise that it was Adelaide that lead the charge to get Paul Little to pull his head in last year? It was actually Chapman that called the meeting with two other AFL Chairmen and it was those three that scared Little so much that he didn't turn up to the Chairs meeting at the AFL. Fagan got an apology from Xavier Campbell for not abiding by the gentleman's agreement and we then got it out there in the media? Fagan was the one who did the majority work in changing the agreement with the SMA? Yeah, we just bend over time and again apparently. Except this past year when we haven't.

 

[Pdub]

Sounds like the cats have promised pick 9 to carlton for Henderson. Here's a prediction, before Dangerfield has even officially accepted Geelong's offer they will trade 9 to carlton and make it impossible for us to get 2 first round picks out of them.

PD is going into the PSD.

 

[NikkiNoo]

so true .. cant beleive the amount of people here willing to accept pick 9 and effectively a 2nd or 3rd round worth ... for danger .. too many here accepting mediocrity.

Most I have seen are all discussing two firsts (this and next year) and a player as the much preferred option.

 

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That's because you're thinking emotionally about it, it won't happen because it would be irresponsible management to lose Danger for nothing. The club would only be hurting itself in that instance. As much as Geelong want the addition of Danger, they wouldn't actually be losing anything. Even Stephen Wells said he didn't want Adelaide to get nothing.

I think everyone gets burnt at some point in the draft/trading game, but it's hard to prevent that sometimes. You can't fight it to the extent that you're hurting yourself, you just gotta keep moving forward and take the wins when they come along

The whole purpose of restricted free agency is for exactly what Adelaide are contemplating doing, you are emotionally invested in the Dangerfield situation so your judgment is equally as clouded as any Adelaide supporters judgment would be. The belief that the Crows should just roll over and allow Geelong a free hit to sign a restricted free agent on a lowball deal is just because Geelong supporters are thinking emotionally about it.

To suggest that missing out of the compo pick would be irresponsible management for Adelaide suggests that you don't really know our situation at all. To set a precedent where we turn a bind eye to Geelong's attempt to lure a restricted free agent for unders would be far more damaging to our club in the long term than missing out on pick 15 (or whatever it is).