Awful. Barely worth matching if that's the result. Hopefully your way off.
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I think it's all linked to this belief (media belief or club belief) that Danger is only worth marginally more than pick 9. So if we do Danger + fringe crows player then we may get pick 9 + 2016 first or pick 9 + a decent player.
Its mind blowing how much people are undervaluing Dangerfield simply because he's a RFA. Yet Henderson is somehow worthy of a first rounder? **** off
2 x 1st round picks would be ideal however I think it will be this years pick 9 plus player and I doubt that it will be Cockatoo Collins
WW might be right, we might squeeze out next years 2nd round as well
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Suspect it won't get any better than that in any significant way.
I'm starting to believe, and accept, that if we match he'll get to geelong for free via one of the drafts. I'd still want us to match and 'fight it out' though.
Probably leaning to Carl's 'see how it all plays out line' after we take the compo.
Murdoch is no improvement on Hendo and would be way behind Jaensch. We can do so much better. He is the steak knives with 2 first rounders not one.
I'm still not getting Geelong's moved ATM. If we matched they were going to have enough trouble getting Henderson and maybe Selwood in, now they're adding Zac Smith to it.
Either they're delusional in thinking they can get everyone, or they know we're not gonna match.
Either they're delusional in thinking they can get everyone, or they know we're not gonna match.
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As a result of ? We picked up Atkins in 2012 with a pick we already had and picked up Knight in 2013 with a pick that we already had.
The Kurt Tippett scenario had nothing to do with selecting those players.
I am one on this board that doesn't rate Jaensch so not a good example from my view
Murdock is a 50 game player, has dine his apprenticeship and his best footy is still in front of him
I'm not convinced that either Jaensch or Hendo will continue to improve
If you're right, Fagan better start running now - or the lynch mob will catch up with him.
You have a little of Vaders shiny toy-itis imo. Why will Murdoch improve more than those 2? Not a heap younger and our boys are superior currently.
If you accept that trade you are rolling over. No point matching for a tiny reward. If We match we go for the payoff. Otherwise why bother.
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Well, the wording might have been a little muddled, but I was trying to reference our clubs ability to pick up a Riley Knight and a Rory Atkins, despite such a late position in the draft. It's great recruitment and something that gives me faith that the Dangerfield deal, no matter which way it goes, will still see us ending up with something worthwhile.
Pick 9, Cockatoo and a second rounder.
Murdoch is an add on; two first rounders has to be our absolute minimum.
Murdoch is an add on; two first rounders has to be our absolute minimum.
We need better than worthwhile we need elite and premiership building.
agree anything less than the equivalent of 2 firsts is a fail ... especially given that these picks are quite shit ... would need a decent player.
I'm guessing the thinking is, at least with Atkins, is we probably wouldn't have taken a chance on a guy with his supposed attitude issues at the time in the draft unless we were missing picks and going for the best guys available.
I would rather a 1st round pick an Cockatoo. It gives us two top 10 picks essentially which is a fair value and Cockatoo fills a need. This is the absolute best case scenario for us.
Having said that, this is not happening. We have more chance of getting 2 first round picks especially since Geelong traded up specifically because they targeted the kid last year.
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Mossad style.
Don't be surprised if this turns into a three way trade, something like:
Carlton
Gain: Geelong's second pick 2015 (pick 28) plus first and second picks 2016,
Lose: Henderson and Menzel, second pick 2015 (pick 20)
Geelong
Gain: Dangerfield, Hendsrson
Lose: First and second picks 2015 (picks 9 and 28) plus first and second picks 2016
Adelaide
Gain: Pick 9, Menzel plus Carlton's second pick 2015 (pick 20)
Lose: Dangerfield
We still get significant unders but we won't end up with much better.
Carlton
Gain: Geelong's second pick 2015 (pick 28) plus first and second picks 2016,
Lose: Henderson and Menzel, second pick 2015 (pick 20)
Geelong
Gain: Dangerfield, Hendsrson
Lose: First and second picks 2015 (picks 9 and 28) plus first and second picks 2016
Adelaide
Gain: Pick 9, Menzel plus Carlton's second pick 2015 (pick 20)
Lose: Dangerfield
We still get significant unders but we won't end up with much better.
geelong still selling out their future for 1 last chance ... imho they would be crazy but they're all in now i think.
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GWS are expecting collingwood's 2015 & 2016 first round picks for Treloar.
Will GWS get more for Treloar than we do for Dangerfield?
Will GWS get more for Treloar than we do for Dangerfield?
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given the sentiment on this board .. i expect so because even our fans are weak as piss ..
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