Daniel Motlop

[Alex99]

Re: Heres the guy we should be replacing ferg with.

I think its a bit of a long bow to draw on Scott Thompson here. He was a 19 year old teenagers who said he hated Adelaide.

I think thats a lot different to what fevola has done off the field during his time in the AFL. At least Thompson is a solid citizen off the field. I am not sure we could say the same thing for Fevola.

At the end of the day if the Adelaide Football Club, Neil Craig and the coached decided to trade for Brandon Fevola they would do medicals and interviews and check references (like any smart employer would) and his character would never be a question after that. The strengths of Neil Craig’s character would over whelm Fevola before he has a chance to set foot in the AFC.

I have faith that if they do decided to go down the Fevola track then it will be in the best interest of the club not in the best interest of Fevola or any individual. The new culture is team first and long-term success so I don’t think the club would jeopardize that for a potential nut job that could become a cancer with I the system.

And that is the point I am trying to make with Scott Thompson, Neil Craig knew that it was just a silly comments and decided to ignore that indiscretion and trade for him, I don’t think Fevola would be able to convince Craig that he has a good character with actually having one. I hope that makes sense

 

[Leigh Roy]

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Just found out about Motlop.

I've been ranting about this for a while - draft NT footballers because geographically our club's great for them IF the homesickness ever does become a factor; and forgetting about that altogether, the NT is a proven hotbed for talent.

Hahah!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Always exceptions to the rule.

Scott Thompson’s character was very questionable before the trade period last year if I recall correctly, his comments about not playing for the crows as a teenager came back to hunt him.

Nothing wrong with Thommo's character. He has always been 100% commited to footy/his club & has not been a disruptive influence. The same cannot be said about Pickett, Medhurst & Fevola, who are the types of characters that I expect Craig ould not be interested in.

 

[Crow-mosone]

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Settle down, he-who-would-trade-our-spine. Motlop is clearly a talented boy. His being injured this year pretty much rooted North (if I may use such a terrible word on Bigfooty).

injured this year? suggest you read up some more on sick note Motlop.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

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Just noticing one thing on this thread, if we loose both the Sarge and Fergus
we would be loosing someone we could have replaced the other for and would leave a huge gap in the forward setup with no backup.

Unless both (supposed) trades are to used wisely to get another large tall with Motlop in the mix, I would agree to that, however our priority should be is to replace both these players with a quality tall.

 

[Stiffy_18]

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Just noticing one thing on this thread, if we loose both the Sarge and Fergus
we would be loosing someone we could have replaced the other for and would leave a huge gap in the forward setup with no backup.

Unless both (supposed) trades are to used wisely to get another large tall with Motlop in the mix, I would agree to that, however our priority should be is to replace both these players with a quality tall.

Agreed.

We simply CANNOT afford to lose both. Preferably, we should keep both but somehow that doesn't look like happening

 

[A gift from above]

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stiffy_18 you said on another thread that we should trade perrie and now is the time?? One of watts or perrie needs to go, pref. perrie as you said his value is very good now. With both there we wont be able to fit them into our team.

cant believe that some ppl dont rate motlop either. Its fine saying hes a HFF, but fergus isnt a AFL CHF yet either, it would be a fair trade. If ferg comes good we may lose from it, but atm his value is low. Bad time to trade him.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

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stiffy_18 you said on another thread that we should trade perrie and now is the time?? One of watts or perrie needs to go, pref. perrie as you said his value is very good now. With both there we wont be able to fit them into our team.

cant believe that some ppl dont rate motlop either. Its fine saying hes a HFF, but fergus isnt a AFL CHF yet either, it would be a fair trade. If ferg comes good we may lose from it, but atm his value is low. Bad time to trade him.

We mightnt be in a place not to.

 

[*PAF]

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I'll laugh really loud IF Pickett gets traded to either WCE or the Crows.
Then we'll see his biggest bashers become his biggest supporters and excuse makers.
Geesh some people.

 

[crowie]

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I'll laugh really loud IF Pickett gets traded to either WCE or the Crows.
Then we'll see his biggest bashers become his biggest supporters and excuse makers.
Geesh some people.

We wont trade for Pickett.

I think what will be funnier is when he comes up against Port and knocks out Wangas or Tredrea. See what you have to say in his defence then.

 

[Stiffy_18]

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I'll laugh really loud IF Pickett gets traded to either WCE or the Crows.
Then we'll see his biggest bashers become his biggest supporters and excuse makers.
Geesh some people.

Well rule both of the clubs out.

Pickett's manger was on 5AA and said that WCE have said they are not interested. Official word from the Adelaide FC, is "We have no interest in Byron Pickett".

Bottom line: Your post is pointless

 

[*PAF]

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Well rule both of the clubs out.

Pickett's manger was on 5AA and said that WCE have said they are not interested. Official word from the Adelaide FC, is "We have no interest in Byron Pickett".

Bottom line: Your post is pointless

Damn!!
You must admit it though Stiify, it would have been a funny sight watching the loud ones doing massive backflips.

 

[MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl]

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NO! I don't want to trade Ferg!! I want us to do EVERYTHING we can to keep him. Lets not give up without a fight!

k
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[Stiffy_18]

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stiffy_18 you said on another thread that we should trade perrie and now is the time?? One of watts or perrie needs to go, pref. perrie as you said his value is very good now. With both there we wont be able to fit them into our team.

cant believe that some ppl dont rate motlop either. Its fine saying hes a HFF, but fergus isnt a AFL CHF yet either, it would be a fair trade. If ferg comes good we may lose from it, but atm his value is low. Bad time to trade him.

Jack I would prefer to keep both. The reason behind this is that we need to have some depth in the KPP department. Its all good to say that we have these players BUT there is a possibility that one or more of those players can come down with an injury and we could be in a bit of a strife. My preference is to keep both. However, if we have to lose one, then I would prefer that we keep Watts and trade Perrie.

My reasoning behind this is simple. Fergus Watts is 7 years younger and much better scope for improvement over the next few years than Perrie. IMHO, Watts has the potential to become a A grade key forward. With all due resects to Sarge he is not on that league.

Secondly, purely from the perspective of trade currency, Perrie's trade value is at an all-time high. After the sort of season he has had, he would demand a VERY good compensation for us. Watts on the other hand is at that time of his career where he won't net us in trade as much as he is worth to us. No matter what we realistically can get for Fergus, I still think we would get dudded. What the club MUST do is make it impossible for Fergus to say no. Quite wimply we muct keep him.

As for Motlop for Watts trade, I don't like it. Motlop has the unbelievable talent. He is the sort of player that can win a match off his own boot. However, he is also prone to having an absolute stinker. Consistency is not his strong point. Secondly he will be 24 next year. Yes you guessed it, the same age as Ladhams is this year . He has been injury prone throughout his AFL career. His career has been restricted by persistent shoulder and soft tissue injuries. He has also been very inconsistent as a footballer.

Quite simply, you just simply DON'T trade a very promising 19 year old key forward for a 24 year old injury prone HFF. It just doesn't add up Jack.

I would be prepared to take a punt on Motlop. Would I trad Watts for him? NO WAY!!!!!!

 

[Stiffy_18]

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Damn!!
You must admit it though Stiify, it would have been a funny sight watching the loud ones doing massive backflips.

Yeah I can see the irony in that

 

[A gift from above]

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We wont trade for Pickett.

I think what will be funnier is when he comes up against Port and knocks out Wangas or Tredrea. See what you have to say in his defence then.

agreed. He wont hit wangas though thats brotherly love.

Freo and Nth are the only ones interested too. Byrons stocks really have slipped.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

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As for Motlop for Watts trade, I don't like it. Motlop has the unbelievable talent. He is the sort of player that can win a match off his own boot. However, he is also prone to having an absolute stinker. Consistency is not his strong point. Secondly he will be 24 next year. Yes you guessed it, the same age as Ladhams is this year . He has been injury prone throughout his AFL career. His career has been restricted by persistent shoulder and soft tissue injuries. He has also been very inconsistent as a footballer.
!

Watch the signs, watch the signs................................

 

[tinman]

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Nothing wrong with Thommo's character. He has always been 100% commited to footy/his club & has not been a disruptive influence. The same cannot be said about Pickett, Medhurst & Fevola, who are the types of characters that I expect Craig ould not be interested in.

I don't know how you can throw Medhurst in with those two?

He has some shortcomings as a player but is a talent. Off field he is a good lad who has never been in any type of strife to my knowledge? I don't think he deserves to be bundled with the other two guys........

 

[Stiffy_18]

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I don't know how you can throw Medhurst in with those two?

He has some shortcomings as a player but is a talent. Off field he is a good lad who has never been in any type of strife to my knowledge? I don't think he deserves to be bundled with the other two guys........

Fair call. Its just his selfishness and inconsistencies on field that give Medhurts a bad name.

OTOH Fevola and Pickett have a long list on off-field issues that raise questions about their character.

 

[*PAF]

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We wont trade for Pickett.

I think what will be funnier is when he comes up against Port and knocks out Wangas or Tredrea. See what you have to say in his defence then.

Depends on how he does it.
If it's much the same as the time he broke Wakelin's ribs I'll probably say what I did then. That is something like "wow what a hit, but a legal one ".
Unless they change the laws that is.

 

[*PAF]

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agreed. He wont hit wangas though thats brotherly love.

Freo and Nth are the only ones interested too. Byrons stocks really have slipped.

If I were you I'd keep practicing backflips Jack. You never know The crows might just change their minds.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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We simply CANNOT afford to lose both. Preferably, we should keep both but somehow that doesn't look like happening

We will be in strife KPP-wise if we lost both Perrie & Watts, & don't trade for a suitable replacement forward.

If we lost either one due to home sickness, are we better off using their value to get another KPP or a midfielder? I'm leaning to the latter. I certainly wouldn't be doing a straight swap for Motlop, as he is not really a priority for the club (though would punt on him if he came at a reasonable price).

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Jack I would prefer to keep both. The reason behind this is that we need to have some depth in the KPP department. Its all good to say that we have these players BUT there is a possibility that one or more of those players can come down with an injury and we could be in a bit of a strife. My preference is to keep both. However, if we have to lose one, then I would prefer that we keep Watts and trade Perrie.

My reasoning behind this is simple. Fergus Watts is 7 years younger and much better scope for improvement over the next few years than Perrie. IMHO, Watts has the potential to become a A grade key forward. With all due resects to Sarge he is not on that league.

Secondly, purely from the perspective of trade currency, Perrie's trade value is at an all-time high. After the sort of season he has had, he would demand a VERY good compensation for us. Watts on the other hand is at that time of his career where he won't net us in trade as much as he is worth to us. No matter what we realistically can get for Fergus, I still think we would get dudded. What the club MUST do is make it impossible for Fergus to say no. Quite wimply we muct keep him.

As for Motlop for Watts trade, I don't like it. Motlop has the unbelievable talent. He is the sort of player that can win a match off his own boot. However, he is also prone to having an absolute stinker. Consistency is not his strong point. Secondly he will be 24 next year. Yes you guessed it, the same age as Ladhams is this year . He has been injury prone throughout his AFL career. His career has been restricted by persistent shoulder and soft tissue injuries. He has also been very inconsistent as a footballer.

Quite simply, you just simply DON'T trade a very promising 19 year old key forward for a 24 year old injury prone HFF. It just doesn't add up Jack.

I would be prepared to take a punt on Motlop. Would I trad Watts for him? NO WAY!!!!!!

Good post Stiffy!

 

[Tas]

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Motlop is a very good player and has shown a lot of improvement over the years, while this year was a setback he was expected to be a 40+ goal player, which is a fair result from someone who usually plays in the pocket and he can play in the middle, he is a versatile player, very gifted.

I'd prefer if we could keep him but if his intentions are to move on then I doubt he will come cheaply and have serious doubts the club will trade for picks with the current draft.

He has had a shoulder problems the last few years but this year he missed almost the whole season getting it fixed, there is as much chance of the shoulder going on him as a shoulder going on anyone. I don't think he has had hamstring problems before and it was probably something triggered by missing almost the entire season.

I have doubts Adelaide will go for him, especially if Perrie leaves. Freo is probably our club of choice, they are a bit like a revolving door when it comes to players so are more likely to release a reasonable player in exchange.

We are looking (I assume) for key position type players. Obviously when you trade someone like motlop you do not get an equal value KPP, but he would demand a good player. He was a top 10 draft pick and he has showed he can live up to that potential, won a fair few games for us last year off his own boot.

I think he would add a lot of offensive bite to the crows forward line, I just do not think Adelaide would offer what our club is likely to be looking for. Given he is not fussed if he goes to SA, WA, QLD or Sydney then we are not pressured into dealing with a particular club.

 

[macca23]

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As for Motlop for Watts trade, I don't like it. Motlop has the unbelievable talent. He is the sort of player that can win a match off his own boot. However, he is also prone to having an absolute stinker. Consistency is not his strong point. Secondly he will be 24 next year. Yes you guessed it, the same age as Ladhams is this year . He has been injury prone throughout his AFL career. His career has been restricted by persistent shoulder and soft tissue injuries. He has also been very inconsistent as a footballer.

Quite simply, you just simply DON'T trade a very promising 19 year old key forward for a 24 year old injury prone HFF. It just doesn't add up Jack.

I would be prepared to take a punt on Motlop. Would I trad Watts for him? NO WAY!!!!!!

On the money Stiffmeister.

I don't think we will figure in Motlop's calculations though, as he has several bros down at Port.

In addition, North are professed to be interested in getting Pickett back. If that's right then there's the basis of a simple trade there, give or take a draft pick here or there.