Retired Daniel Talia [retired]

[Lore]

He's an UFA, he's not being traded unless the destination club didn't want to hurt their FA compo pick.

The AFL article says delisted, but you're right – he won't be delisted until the list lodgement dates in October. Until then he's still eligible as a UFA.

So his current choices are:

• Unrestricted Free Agency – This is the earliest opportunity to move, with the free agency period opening before the trade period. Choose a club and sign with them, Adelaide gets no say in it, but may receive compensation depending on the contract and fancy formula. Isaac Smith netted Hawthorn a Band 5 pick as a 31 year old last year, for example. There are more examples here and the formula breakdown is here.
• Trade – Choose a club, Adelaide and chosen club negotiate a deal, etc. As you said, only likely if the destination club are getting a compo pick and don't want to lose it, otherwise they'll just move him via UFA.
• Delisted Free Agency – After the trade period, before the draft, there are two windows for DFAs to move (one after each list lodgement date). I think there's a third window after the draft as well. No compensation for Adelaide through that process.
• Draft – He can theoretically nominate for the draft, but why the heck would he want to do that? Zero benefit for anyone involved.
• Supplemental Selection Period – last ditch option if no one wants him straight away on their senior list. This will put him on a rookie list sometime over the summer.

 

[Foucault1989]

I'd love to see Talia go to the Dogs for lols

 

[Thetrader15]

But that doesnt make sense when you really break it down..

so lets say he’s on $700k a year now (some actually claim its closer to $800k and that old DT is a really shrewed opperator when it comes to getting every drop out of the club!) and thus will earn $700k next year if he stays at Adelaide.

He will then get at the very least another two year contract you’d think on $500k a year with the crows if his current form continues or slightly wanes with age.

so he stays here and earns 1.7m over the next three years.

then he may even get another final year on a little bit less again if his body and form hold up.

What would the dons have to offer over 4 years to make it worth his while to even bother considering a move?..

you’d think it would want to be in the vicinity of $550-$600k a year..

Or maybe they are offering more...pkus the long term security of a 4 year deal now. Particularly if his body is struggling

 

[Thetrader15]

I'd love to see Talia go to the Dogs for lols

The Dogs would be better off with McGovern. They have Naughton and JUH next year, so need another KPF who won't go near the ball and take defenders away from it. McGovern fits the bill.

 

[Ambrosia]

Talia was good but footy has changed. Go watch a Crows game opposition teams leave him free hoping Adelaide will kick him the ball because he will just give it back to the opposition. Backman who can't kick or take an intercept mark have no value in todays footy. The minor premiers would rather play a mid size defender at full back than pick someone who can't kick.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Talia was good but footy has changed. Go watch a Crows game opposition teams leave him free hoping Adelaide will kick him the ball because he will just give it back to the opposition. Backman who can't kick or take an intercept mark have no value in todays footy. The minor premiers would rather play a mid size defender at full back than pick someone who can't kick.

So why are the Bombers even chasing him then?, if the rumour is true of course..

I cant honestly see why they are..

 

[Foucault1989]

The Dogs would be better off with McGovern. They have Naughton and JUH next year, so need another KPF who won't go near the ball and take defenders away from it. McGovern fits the bill.

You didn't get the joke...

 

[Ambrosia]

So why are the Bombers even chasing him then?, if the rumour is true of course..

I cant honestly see why they are..

I have no idea. Essendon is an inept club.

 

[1970crow]

This would be the biggest WTF ever in trade week I think. Why would Essendon top up?

Transition to coaching would be my only guess. Talia did an interview a few years ago saying he had to do more work than others to get over games and get up each week. He seems easily the most self aware of our highly paid oldies and I'll be surprised if he's chasing a playing extension beyond current contract. Maybe 1 year. Even though he's my favourite of the 3, I'll be pissed if he gets extended by more than 1 year.

 

[brutus76]

Talia and a 3rd for Francis and Raz

 

[Ash1337]

Talia to dons makes no sense unless the rumours of hooker retiring are true. Talia is slowing down now and starting to get niggles. Would be foolish for dons to play all 3.

 

[DangerSloane]

He’s 28 and has missed bugger all games over his career?..

30+ and had groin issues?

You talking about the same player the thread title is about?..

Highly valued member of the crows defense..rarely gets beaten.. a team leader. Twice AA and... Still contracted next year.

crows would want more than a second rounder given this years draft is so compromised and full of massive unknowns..

a second rounder this year is junk... and the crows already look to have three of them.. their own at 20, 21 for Atkins if all reports are correct and Bulldogs second..

maybe a future second in next years draft which is less compromised and looking likely to be a great one?..

OK hes 29 at the start of next season and yes, has played through ongoing groin issues for the last 5 years.
He hasnt missed many games, yes.... which is what PLAYING THROUGH means.

 

[DangerSloane]

Talia was good but footy has changed. Go watch a Crows game opposition teams leave him free hoping Adelaide will kick him the ball because he will just give it back to the opposition. Backman who can't kick or take an intercept mark have no value in todays footy. The minor premiers would rather play a mid size defender at full back than pick someone who can't kick.

This is pure garbage.

 

[DangerSloane]

You didn't get the joke...

To be fair the joke was very niche, and even people that did get it didnt find it funny

 

[Foucault1989]

To be fair the joke was very niche, and even people that did get it didnt find it funny

True. It fell flat.

 

[Sidthehat]

The more going out of Essendon, the more you wonder if they will offer Talia a three-year plus coaching deal to get him there. Not keen on it as would like another year of him with McAsey, but could keep Hartigan in that instance and wouldnt want both of them playing. Essendon get a tough pro to keep others in line they maybe haven't had since Goddard (and who'd do it in a less w***erish way). Difficult to put a trade value on him mind. Fantasia not enough.

 

[1990crow]

The more going out of Essendon, the more you wonder if they will offer Talia a three-year plus coaching deal to get him there. Not keen on it as would like another year of him with McAsey, but could keep Hartigan in that instance and wouldnt want both of them playing. Essendon get a tough pro to keep others in line they maybe haven't had since Goddard (and who'd do it in a less w***erish way). Difficult to put a trade value on him mind. Fantasia not enough.

Talia, pick 8, 2021 3rd for Pick 6, 2021 2nd and Fantasia.

 

[Murray2503]

Talia won't be leaving the crows this year. Possibility next year though.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Talia won't be leaving the crows this year. Possibility next year though.

Nah.. he and his missus sound far too settled in Adelaide to move.. think he’ll be a crow for life.

Stranger things have happened though I suppose.. but I’m pretty much baseing it on this being exactly what the bloke himself said..

 

[Freomaniac]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/09/22/essendon-very-interested-in-all-australian-adelaide-defender/

Essendon coach Ben Rutten

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’s links to Adelaide could see Crows defender Daniel Talia

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land at the club during the upcoming trade period, according to SEN SA’s Michelangelo Rucci.

The 28-year-old defender becomes a restricted free agent at the end of next season but Rutten, who played with Talia between 2011 and 2014 at Adelaide, is reportedly making a play to secure his services.

Rucci said if Essendon offered Talia a longer-term deal, it would be a tough proposition to knock back.

“Ben Rutten

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is very, very interested in getting Daniel Talia

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out of the (Adelaide) football club,” he said on SEN SA Drive.

“He’s contracted for next year … but he’s a professional footballer. I’m hearing Rutten is keen on him.

Doubt this will happen but wonder what he'd be worth on the table. Butts is coming along nicely and I'd have him filling Hartigan's position, but if we lost Talia would we keep Hartigan then?

Hartigan wants to leave the crows..... as a free agent

 

[When I Crow Up]

Hartigan wants to leave the crows..... as a free agent

Yeah I just saw, means the chances of Talia leaving are even more remote!

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Will surely be some interest in this guy.

 

[Freomaniac]

I cant see Talia leaving.

Not because of any other reason than the fact that he's played through an ongoing groin injury for a few years now and is 30+
What club would be looking at that?

Adelaide know what he can and cant do, are well versed in his recovery procedures etc. I think it would be daft for both parties to have DT leave.

hes prob only got 1 year left in him.

Thats harsh if you think he was one year left in Him. Myself, Along with many posters on here Thought Taylor Walker was cooked and done this time last season. 2 rounds into the 2021 season and Walker has kicked 5 goals in both his games he has played this season.

He's actually only 28 (soon 29), it shocked me too would've guessed 31.

Doesn't make sense though, if I'm Essendon I don't want Talia and if I'm Talia I'd only leave for a club in contention.

Fancy that....

Ben Rutten was 20 years old and 53 days when he had his debut game. His last game he played aged 31 years and 95 days.

Ironic that he started his career as a Forward but played his best years as a Defender. Same with Nigel Smart.

He’s 28 and has missed bugger all games over his career?..

30+ and had groin issues?

You talking about the same player the thread title is about?..

Highly valued member of the crows defense..rarely gets beaten.. a team leader. Twice AA and... Still contracted next year.

crows would want more than a second rounder given this years draft is so compromised and full of massive unknowns..

a second rounder this year is junk... and the crows already look to have three of them.. their own at 20, 21 for Atkins if all reports are correct and Bulldogs second..

maybe a future second in next years draft which is less compromised and looking likely to be a great one?..

Turns 30 this season on October 2nd. I still think he has 2-3, possibly even 4 years left. I was thinking the crows would spend 3-4 years in the bottom 6. But after that Geelong win, that was not only a win but a psychological one.

Who knows? Crows could finish 14th with 8 wins like freo did in 2017 and 2018 and then in 2022, bolt up and get a finals spot With a blend of youth and experience. Especially with that backline of Talia, Dodee, Brown, Laird, Butts/McAsey etc.

I don't think he wants to leave, it would be that Rutten is offering him a 4 year deal as a 28yo.

I didnt think Daniel Talia has a long history of injuries.

Again.... depends on how the crows go this season.

Daniel Talia could look at which teams would play finals this season. Dogs, Saints, Collingwood, Demons could look at him. Hell, even the cats or Richmond could look at him if he is willing to take a pay cut and play for either of them on $5-$600,000 year on a 2-3 year deal.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

He'd be a great fit for the Dogs but that probably won't happen.

 

[Bulldogs85]

He'd be a great fit for the Dogs but that probably won't happen.

That will never happen

 

[Cleric]

He will re-sign. Will play his career out at Adelaide and stay here after he retires. SA girl for a wife and has a child here. Only way he goes back to Vic is if he wants to get into coaching.