Darren Lehmann - flog

[Del125763]

I found the article where he attacked Geeves as a tad unprofessional especially coming from a higher position such as Australian coach.

Reading all these posts, Im just wondeirng may it have to do anything with KP's criticism of the national team for pinching players for national duty? Was this a possible retaliation?

Personally, think KP is a bit of narcissist himself .

 

[Del125763]

Interesting question for me, was what happen if Australia were losing cricket matches, would Boof be up in the commentary box? Getting into social media as much?

 

[The Swans Blog]

Interesting question for me, was what happen if Australia were losing cricket matches, would Boof be up in the commentary box? Getting into social media as much?

He's got as much a front runner grandiose complex as any other egotistical twat. Shut up shop when his team looked like monkeys ****ing cricket balls and running his mouth as soon as they demolished an embarrassing Pakistan. Had they won that first match, they might have won the series. Love to see what he'd say afterwards.

 

[Hamingja]

What is the previous issue with boof and kp?

Just seems very odd the aussie test coach caring the slightest bit about the performance of a former english cricketer in a domestic 20/20 comp.

I did hear KP make a few comments micd up in the BBL about the Australian selections, mostly to do with Zampa I think it was, might have been about Maxwell as well can't quite remember but it was definitely with regards to fellow Stars players and Australian selection.

 

[PhatBoy]

Talent wasn't the issue keeping him from being selected (I have no idea what was).

Probably the fact there were plenty of players with more of it.

 

[PhatBoy]

Does a pitch start to feel different paced when your eyes and reaction times start to slip?

Which they clearly haven't started to do given his impressive T20 record of late

 

[PhatBoy]

And its also what's wrong with it. If the timing/scheduling was better, we could see our own home grown stars compete. Not mercenaries who travel the globe topping up there retirement funds.

If it wasn't for people like that, the competitions wouldn't exist due to a lack of financial backing.

In a format designed for big hitting, who the hell wants to watch some nuffy who can't crack his Shield team's second XI battling to get one off the square in the big bash?

 

[Belnakor]

Reading all these posts, Im just wondeirng may it have to do anything with KP's criticism of the national team for pinching players for national duty? Was this a possible retaliation?

Personally, think KP is a bit of narcissist himself .

possibly, but in which case it was a complete overreaction. KP is paid to have an opinion (its actually a major component of why he is out here), an opinion which frankly is hardly that controversial (he would like the guys to play in the big bash.. gee wizz hard hitting there KP) and the Coach is firing back with both barrels?

 

[Belnakor]

He's got as much a front runner grandiose complex as any other egotistical twat. Shut up shop when his team looked like monkeys ******* cricket balls and running his mouth as soon as they demolished an embarrassing Pakistan. Had they won that first match, they might have won the series. Love to see what he'd say afterwards.

very true and very good point.

When we get smashed in India i'll let to see if the fat twat is popping up on twitter or suddenly has nothing to say

 

[damochandler]

He's got as much a front runner grandiose complex as any other egotistical twat. Shut up shop when his team looked like monkeys ******* cricket balls and running his mouth as soon as they demolished an embarrassing Pakistan. Had they won that first match, they might have won the series. Love to see what he'd say afterwards.

Pretty much spot on

 

[eddiesmith]

Trouble with attacking KP is he is exactly the player this comp needs to make it worthwhile and he is performing.

With the Big Bash falling whilst most other nations are playing Internationals and the Aussie side playing, your only option for decent internationals is someone like KP who is no longer playing internationals or else you are mixing your internationals up as different series happen like some teams have had to.

But you look at some people saying you shouldn't be spending money on KP, but then people are saying the Stars should be picking more players who don't play internationals. I really hope its not the same people contradicting themselves...

 

[noffle]

KP was going pretty heavy on Lehmann's son Jake in the Strikers game he was commenting - probably more evidence of there being some kind of history. Jake made 4 from 8, so not great, but from memory some of KP's comments were pretty vicious, asking the mic'd up Thunder player whether or not he would purposefully drop a catch to keep Jake in because he's so shit.

 

[roscreasl98]

If it wasn't for people like that, the competitions wouldn't exist due to a lack of financial backing.

In a format designed for big hitting, who the hell wants to watch some nuffy who can't crack his Shield team's second XI battling to get one off the square in the big bash?

Buts that's what this competition is. One overpaid overseas and over here big noter in each team, the rest are 2nd 11 hacks. Eg. Worrall, Green, Dwarhuis etc etc etc etc. So thats exactly what u are watching.

 

[Freo Big Fella]

Eddie and KP getting a bit oversensitive about the stars bog average list management.

 

[PhatBoy]

Buts that's what this competition is. One overpaid overseas and over here big noter in each team, the rest are 2nd 11 hacks. Eg. Worrall, Green, Dwarhuis etc etc etc etc. So thats exactly what u are watching.

The no names are the exception. They become the rule if the overseas players don't come in. Especially when most good Australian players are on some sort of national duty for most of the tournament.

 

[roscreasl98]

The no names are the exception. They become the rule if the overseas players don't come in. Especially when most good Australian players are on some sort of national duty for most of the tournament.

The no names are the rule I'm afraid. Go through each team, and see how many are either not 1st class standard, or were, and no longer are. The reason is the stupid scheduling.

 

[DrEvil_]

i used to think he was some kind of lovable fat guy who didn't take himself too seriously. Since has become coach his true colors seem to be appearing.

plus he wasn't actually that good - he clearly thinks he was a great player.

Time to learn your life lesson kid, fat guys, despite their looks, are mostly not lovable at all.

 

[roscreasl98]

Eddie and KP getting a bit oversensitive about the stars bog average list management.

You'd think silly Eddie would keep his mouth shut. He's had his foot stuck in it sooooooo many times.

 

[Weagleman]

Was really suprised by his comments, right or wrong just dont think it was needed by the Australian head coach. This and the foxsports article really start to paint Lehman in a dark light.

 

[PhatBoy]

The no names are the rule I'm afraid. Go through each team, and see how many are either not 1st class standard, or were, and no longer are. The reason is the stupid scheduling.

Of the 22 players on show tonight, Dwarshuis and Pearson are the only 2 that aren't/or used to be first class regulars.

 

[damochandler]

Time to learn your life lesson kid, fat guys, despite their looks, are mostly not lovable at all.

I try to be

 

[nobbyiscool]

No it doesnt make him a media commentator, it makes him the Australian cricket coach making media comments.

As the Aus Coach, he has one of the largest microphones in Aus cricket circles- i.e if he doesnt rate a player, that player gets banished.

Did we ever see Buchanan, Arthur, Simpson taking commentary roles judging Aussie players whilst they were Aus coach?I can't think of any as its a massive COI (hes obliged to take a position on players he may end up coaching).

Coming back to the point I made earlier, whilst societally its acceptable for endless wittering from the masses, its not a good look for the Aus coach to be doing so, whether that be in traditional media or in social media.

Otherwise what standard of leadership is he setting for his guys?

I found the article where he attacked Geeves as a tad unprofessional especially coming from a higher position such as Australian coach.

These x1000.

Whether or not Lehmann is right is not the point. It's so not the point it's ridiculous.

For the national team coach to be attacking a columnist based on his career rather than his comment is unprofessional, petulant and childish. At one point Brett Geeves was good enough to play ODIs for Australia, and he was a horribly underrated Shield player during Tassie's "golden era." So his comments about Geeves were wrong to begin with (especially after Geeves follow up article that suggested he had a pretty ****in good record against Lehmann.)

And now, for the national team coach to be making comment on/criticising/giving advice to a BBL franchise is completely inappropriate.

I don't agree with Lehmann on either of these instances. But as I say, it's not the point - the point is that he has a job to do as coach of Australia, and while we continue to get hammered as soon as we go overseas he shouldn't be critical of the job others are doing when he is clearly not succeeding in his own job.

I was surprised and disappointed to learn a few months ago (maybe a little longer?) that his contract had been extended. If we can't get some respectable results out of India, he'll have achieved nothing. Arthur was sacked after the 2013 series, so Lehmann will have had a full 4-year cycle as coach by the end of the impending series. If he doesn't demonstrate some series improvement, he's failed in his job. The World Cup doesn't really prove anything when the reality is that, even in our darker periods of the last 10 years, we have been flat track bullies. We only played one game away from home in that World Cup... and we lost it! He can't point to that as a grand success when we can't win away from home.

If we get beaten badly in India, I would like to think he'll be gone.

 

[Wolfs]

KP is money. Regardless of his performance, people tune in for him. The national coach of a team really shouldn't be slamming people on social media unless it is for social awareness.

He can't do that in his position but he was a great player.

 

[Wolfs]

I found the article where he attacked Geeves as a tad unprofessional especially coming from a higher position such as Australian coach.

Reading all these posts, Im just wondeirng may it have to do anything with KP's criticism of the national team for pinching players for national duty? Was this a possible retaliation?

Personally, think KP is a bit of narcissist himself .

Doesn't matter that he is but KP is in a position to say what he wants. Boof isn't. Boof has play the game with "KP is a great player and he is entitled to his opinion but for us picking the best possible team for Australia comes first." you know shit like that.

 

[Phone]

have we gone 75 posts without mentioning the whole "black ****" thing?