Mega Thread David Evans Resigns

[Mofra]

The only way Evans will be removed is by a vote of the Essendon members.

About as likely to happen as Melbourne winning this year's premiership.

Jeez Melbourne are a good odds...

 

[FuManchu]

A club full of finger pointers not willing to take responsibility yet Dank, Robinson, Hamilton, Robson and Evans are all gone.

Why are they all gone when Hird said he will take full responsibility?

 

[jerry springer]

Its amazing what one bad loss will do. All was good when the bombers were winning.

Hate to see what happens when the points get stripped

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Get stuffed mate hope you and your media farkwits are happy now.

Is that Hirds departing statement?

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

This is more like post volcanic eruption type smoke and ashes.

Nah, I think that's just fog before the sunshine /hird

 

[FuManchu]

Get stuffed mate hope you and your media farkwits are happy now.

And the ACC too?

 

[Costanza Velvet]

Why are they all gone when Hird said he will take full responsibility?

How do you know he won't once Essendon have played their last game for the year?
Robson stood down because of poor governance. Hird will stand down if it is found that players were injected with S2 substances. But if it all comes down to AOD9604 then it would be madness to stand down on the back of misleading information.

 

[Satan]

Nah, I think that's just fog before the sunshine /hird

Fog as in fogdog , you know it make sense

 

[RegHickeyStand]

At risk of running the discussion around in circles, how much more can a club do then:

a) Suspend those directly involved in the fitness program
b) Call for an independent review of club practices
c) Agree to ASADA to investigate and co-operate with investigations
d) Act on independent review (resignation of Robson)
e) Wait for the ASADA investigation to complete before acting further.

Should we be calling for Hird's head? Whilst players clearly still support him? Before the ASADA investigation is complete? I'm suspect many opinions of Essendon supporters will change once the ASADA report is complete, but until then, I see nothing wrong with fan standing by their team.

James Hird

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Most of you wanted The Weapon dead a few months ago wondering how the low life scum can live with himself. Now you love him and are looking forward to what he has to say because he's innocent in all of this. If Robinson is innocent then so is everyone else.

And Robinson is suing Essendon because he believes that is how Essendon allowed him to be portrayed.

It was Essendon fans coming on this forum dumping on Robinson Dank and Reid for months. And if you mentioned Hird they would go ballistic and dump on Hamilton and Robson as well.

And thats a fact.

 

[Achilles Heel]

Fog as in fogdog , you know it make sense

How did I get caught up in this????

 

[Collingwood 4 eternity]

Why are they all gone when Hird said he will take full responsibility?

It may well be remembered as the "Circus of the son of Windy Hill"

Does Jim make it to the other side of the rusty roof beam , when those who walked before him , have not ?

 

[Costanza Velvet]

Gunston and Little must be absolute lunatics if they are walking into position knowing the club is about to lose its players, coaching staff, premiership points for years to come(if AOD9604 is performance enhancing 12 months after taking it whose to say it won't be performance enhancing in 48 months time?), draft picks for years to come, 10-20 million dollar fine etc

 

[fishardansin]

It's obvious Evans was stressed from the beginning of the investigation, with sudden weight loss being mentioned early by Caro, and his reactions recently are all signs of intense levels of stress/anxiety. Having had anxiety issue over shit that's far less heavy and doesn't involve others myself, I can't imagine how such a heavy tipping point would be for Evans right now. Despite the fact I'm extremely suspicious about his role in creating that stress for himself, It's clear he isn't in a healthy place, and I hope that he can get his shit together,

Furthermore, it makes for business stand point for him to return to his business anyway; I can see why this was mentioned in his statement; it's common-sense.

I think the Bombers are probably in a extreme degree of trouble, but aside from Evans resigning, there isn't much to be worked up about here, as the reasons he has given are perfectly valid. I'm sure there's stuff we don't know that did come into play, but we don't know what 'stuff' is yet and there's 200 other threads on here to speculate about it.

Besides, by moving himself from the picture, Evans is driving focus back on the football club and its programmes; not on the board or the administration (which has already verified via the Switkowski Report that it was incompetent/guilty of poor governance).

The information is coming in 10 or so days anyway, just be patient. The Weapon's self-destructing on Monday too, so I'm sure you'll get a few kernels of truth there too.

I just don't see the point in attacking someone who is unwell, just because they may/may not be guilty of being a prick.

Well said. It's also worth mentioning that he didn't resign from the board, just the chair. The man who is about to take over is very aggressive about this issue and it's about to go nuclear.

 

[FuManchu]

How do you know he won't once Essendon have played their last game for the year?
Robson stood down because of poor governance. Hird will stand down if it is found that players were injected with S2 substances. But if it all comes down to AOD9604 then it would be madness to stand down on the back of misleading information.

So full responsibility means others need to go before I take full responsibility. It seems to me more honourable men have shown what taking full responsibility means.

One would assume taking ful responsibility means acting first so others don't feel the compulsion to resign

 

[jenny61_99]

I know all of you's will scoff and shout out delusional with what I'm about to post.

If Hird packed his shit up and walked out you all would be chanting how gutless he is for jumping ship, the mob would just say the opposite an you can't win.

If you like this next statement or not I don't care but it is the truth. If the club was handed crippling sanctions similar to Carlton the only person who would turn the club around the quickest would be Hird due to his support. I believe since he was happy to coach during the good days (winning a lot of games) he should be made to rectify the problem and face the brunt. (only if he still had full support of the board, sponsors, players and supporters)

But if he is found to have been directly involved endorsing Illegal s2 PED's that's bye bye.

You lost me at "you's".

 

[go team]

If Essendon members and supporters hadn't been so unreservedly "supportive", almost head-in-the-sand like, then those responsible might have been doing something about restoring the club instead of holding out as long as they can trying to pretend nothing is wrong.

So your critism is of Essendon supporters for not questioning a response you yourself won't criticise?

 

[erbenz]

Well said. It's also worth mentioning that he didn't resign from the board, just the chair. The man who is about to take over is very aggressive about this issue and it's about to go nuclear.

Sorry, thanks for that clarification.

 

[Graffy4242]

Well said. It's also worth mentioning that he didn't resign from the board, just the chair. The man who is about to take over is very aggressive about this issue and it's about to go nuclear.

Wow. I am sure WADA, ASADA and the AFL are quaking in their boots. LOL.

 

[Costanza Velvet]

So full responsibility means others need to go before I take full responsibility. It seems to me more honourable men have shown what taking full responsibility means.

One would assume taking ful responsibility means acting first so others don't feel the compulsion to resign

Isn't the main argument the welfare of the players? What kind of message would the club be sending if the coach walks out on its players before the findings?
If the club is guilty - Hird will stand down and you can all dance on his grave but if the club is cleared - how could you possibly argue Hird should go.

We will know in about 9 days what happened at EFC last year.

 

[blackshadow]

Well said. It's also worth mentioning that he didn't resign from the board, just the chair. The man who is about to take over is very aggressive about this issue and it's about to go nuclear.

So the first line of Evans' statement is wrong?

 

[FuManchu]

Isn't the main argument the welfare of the players? What kind of message would the club be sending if the coach walks out on its players before the findings?
If the club is guilty - Hird will stand down and you can all dance on his grave but if the club is cleared - how could you possibly argue Hird should go.

We will know in about 9 days what happened at EFC last year.

Given that the welfare of the players under Hird last year wasn't as much of a concern, then I suggest if it is now your primary concern, you would be calling for him to step aside ASAP

 

[jodo27]

I've been saying this for years. I don't know why she cops it so much. So much of the vitriol directed towards her is based on her looks, which is embarrassing to read. I don't care if she looks like a model or a wookie, she is there to dig deep and she does it better than anyone else inthe game. And if she gets the odd one wrong, it's because someone somewhere has fed her false stuff, which most probably is a story in itself.

I take it that you are in full agreement with Caro's articles on Dane Swan and Daisy Thomas and their drug taking exploits. Collingwood supporters have short memories when they smell blood from another team. Caroline Wilson is not an investigative journalist but she is a gossip columnist. I don't care what Ms Wilson looks like but the self righteous garbage that is in her columns and various media appearance should not go unchallenged.

 

[FuManchu]

I take it that you are in full agreement with Caro's articles on Dane Swan and Daisy Thomas and their drug taking exploits. Collingwood supporters have short memories when they smell blood from another team. Caroline Wilson is not an investigative journalist but she is a gossip columnist. I don't care what Ms Wilson looks like but the self righteous garbage that is in her columns and various media appearance should not go unchallenged.

I don't have a problem with it. They are certified twats, regardless of their footballing ability

 

[dogsbody]

So your critism is of Essendon supporters for not questioning a response you yourself won't criticise?

No, my criticism of Essendon members and supporters is for blaming everybody else, for not looking at where the blame from the state of the club properly lies and for not being critical of those who are responsible.