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David King, Head Scientist

Discussion in 'Footy Fourth Estate' started by Rourke, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. Rourke

    Rourke Watching the Numbers

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    http://www.sen.com.au/news/04-16/david-king-goes-into-bat-for-the-stats
    CSIRO workers are setting fire to their business cards as we speak
     

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  2. hench

    hench Suspended

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    Remember when people used to complain about how commentators were too matey with current players and would only speak in worn out cliches? Now people don't like having stats thrown in their face.
     
  3. Judd2Sewell

    Judd2Sewell Norm Smith Medallist

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    It's like when someone refers to themselves as a Dr after doing a doctorate of Geology.
     
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  4. Bluez Rule

    Bluez Rule All Australian

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    Until they bring in the AFL version of the 'Boonie-Comfort-Meter" into play then all stats are irrelevant
     
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  5. peternorth

    peternorth Facts Machine

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    on the couch demonstrated a passage of play involving crows and dogs. crouch vs bont. bont runs forward of centre, king says its great running and crows need to score. bont marks inside f50. bont assessed the situation so quickly, what a brain!

    dunstall - he had the license to take off so quickly cause his team mates had the ball

    bang
     
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  6. Milk Steak

    Milk Steak Norm Smith Medallist

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    I used to like David King,but he's become so far up his own ass with all his statistical analysis that he doesn't even talk about football or the players themselves anymore. On The Couch is my favourite of the football shows, but it feels like every 5 minutes King will follow up Brown or Dunstall (talking actual football) with some bullshit graph he made up with a random assortment of numbers that seem intruiging
     
  7. simba_

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    it's more the "lab" shit, they've gone from neanderthals to star trek, how about just some normal middle ground?
     
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  8. Contra Mundum

    Contra Mundum Brownlow Medallist

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    eh if they have done a doctorate then they deserve to be called Dr! Chiropractors and Dentists - that is what is laughable
     
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  9. Borussia Teeth

    Borussia Teeth Club Legend

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    Laughable: Chiropractors yes, dentists no.
     
  10. WatsamattaU

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    Calling David King a scientist is like calling a McDonalds employee a chef.
     
  11. Shane Hird

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    I agree- he's been crapping on for a few years now with a never ending torrent of mildly stimulating analysis of the game ....but..tonight he was good on 360.

    Most times he gets on air he's well prepared and ready to highlight something that's Interesting.



    He's the anti Alister Lynch.

    His view on how the Boyd/Morris combo is beneficial to the Dogs setup behind the ball was spot on.

    He's 70% good info and 30% mindless dribble.

    He goes alright for me.
     

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  12. Baltimore Jack

    Baltimore Jack Brownlow Medallist

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    As soon as he says "This next graphic shows quite clearly........" you know it will make no sense to anyone
     
  13. Mr_Bojangles

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    If King is the oracle he'd be taking one of the Pies, GWS or Tigers jobs soon? Oh wait he's already been at the Tigers. An absolute fraud.
     
  14. Baltimore Jack

    Baltimore Jack Brownlow Medallist

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    And sooooooo boring to listen to
    Who ever decided to pair him and McLure must have been trying to find a cure for insomnia
     
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  15. Easterninfo

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    Agree Mr Bo

    One of the most unwelcome blokes in the AFL media. Buggar all friends except for two or three that are forced to work with him. Not liked at club
    Level at all, take that to the bank.
     
  16. funk44

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    Can we get Lily. An actual data scientist?

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Micksy

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    Love his work with the Fox Footy Squiggle.
     
  18. Sprout

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    Just about fell off my seat hearing him advocate Fremantle tanking - "what's the incentive for winning?"

    I'd advise against it Kingy. Fairly strongly.
     
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  19. Bobby_

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    I have a video of him playing back in 1996 where he gave Ablett lip and the siren just went. Ablett got pissed off and wanted to go on with it but King ran to where Martyn, Archer and Stevens were congregating. Only when he was with 3 other North Melbourne players did he begin to back chat Ablett.
    Says quite a bit about the bloke.
     
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  20. Baltimore Jack

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    Heard that, couldn't believe what I was hearing and the Chief was genuinely shocked by what the idiot was saying
     
  21. Marstermind

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    Tonight on 360 he called himself out. "I know that contested possession stats can be overrated" and he then blabbers on about contested possession stats for the next 5mins.

    A graphic also popped up showing that some (and only some) of the top teams have used less players and had more playing every game, and some of the bottom teams (and only some) have used more and had less playing every game. "It's a real indicator" we are assured before reeling of more of this stat for the extensive data of the Grand Finalists of the last 2 years. Sooo...Mr Head Scientist, are you saying that sides who have less injuries and less out of form players are better placed than those with more injuries and who are dropping 3 players each week. Jeebus.

    Luckily tonight we were spared the Premiership Predictor...A shiny Cartesian plane looking thingo whereby we are can figure out the mind-blowingly "who-woulda-thunk-it" information that teams who kick plenty of goals and don't have too many scored against them are probably going OK.
     
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  22. Chuckie357

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    What about someone who works at subway a 'Sandwich Artist'?
     
  23. Private Hudson

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    ahhhh the old " Premiership Predictor " I love how he rolls it out like its revolutionising footy statistics.
     
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  24. HeavyPop

    HeavyPop Premiership Player

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    His Diamond Demons tactical explanation was borderline trolling. The diamond aspect was totally irrelevant to what he was showing (two Melbourne half backs pushing into the square to help out at contest) and only formed due to the set up of the Bulldogs forwards. It's not exactly paying huge dividends for Melbourne anyway like others have such as the Weagles Web, Clarkos Cluster, Lyon Cage, etc.
     
  25. Cleavy

    Cleavy Brownlow Medallist

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    needs a fancier name, like the pitchfork.
     
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