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David_Brent said:
MacKay got 3.08 for the 20m. One of the slower times for mids, I think thats why he slipped.
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Maybe it's because he's a footballer rather than an athlete who can't play footy. :)

I watched him at Norwood Oval, and under match conditions he looked pretty quick to me and that's where it counts IMO. :thumbsu:

He reads the ball well - excellently in fact - and has good evasive skills. A few more kilos and we'll have a good player on our hands.

I liked the look of this lad - very promising. :thumbsu:
 

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macca23 said:
Maybe it's because he's a footballer rather than an athlete who can't play footy. :)

I watched him at Norwood Oval, and under match conditions he looked pretty quick to me and that's where it counts IMO. :thumbsu:

He reads the ball well - excellently in fact - and has good evasive skills. A few more kilos and we'll have a good player on our hands.

I liked the look of this lad - very promising. :thumbsu:
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Have to agree. He was very impressive and showed all of the above characteristics in the TAC cup grand final last year too. I was hoping the blues would pick him up @ #35, but we might end up doing very well with your glenelg boy Mark Austin anyway.
 
macca23 said:
Maybe it's because he's a footballer rather than an athlete who can't play footy. :)

I watched him at Norwood Oval, and under match conditions he looked pretty quick to me and that's where it counts IMO. :thumbsu:

He reads the ball well - excellently in fact - and has good evasive skills. A few more kilos and we'll have a good player on our hands.

I liked the look of this lad - very promising. :thumbsu:
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What local club did he get drafted to?

KT was West. There the only 2 non SA lads and the rest were local.
 
macca23 said:
Maybe it's because he's a footballer rather than an athlete who can't play footy. :)

I watched him at Norwood Oval, and under match conditions he looked pretty quick to me and that's where it counts IMO. :thumbsu:

He reads the ball well - excellently in fact - and has good evasive skills. A few more kilos and we'll have a good player on our hands.

I liked the look of this lad - very promising. :thumbsu:
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Agreed. I like him.

But the orginal poster described as having explosive pace. He isnt as slow as his DC time suggests but nobody could call him explosive.
 
macca23 said:
Maybe it's because he's a footballer rather than an athlete who can't play footy. :)

I watched him at Norwood Oval, and under match conditions he looked pretty quick to me and that's where it counts IMO. :thumbsu:

He reads the ball well - excellently in fact - and has good evasive skills. A few more kilos and we'll have a good player on our hands.

I liked the look of this lad - very promising. :thumbsu:
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I agree he looks a very good prospect ....he looks quicker than he probably is because he's always taking the ball at pace and already in stride.

His major area of improvement apart from the obvious weight issue is his man on man ......I don't think he is any great shakes in that area and not sure he knows how to spell the word "tackle"

But despite all this his attitude is A1 and within our system I have high hopes that these weaknesses can be overcome
 
IMO the draft camp run isnt all its meant to be, i mean i remember a young luke jericho came 2nd to a daniel wells in his year i think...and...whilst luke is fast over 20 metres...put that into his tackling speed and he couldnt chase a sloth.

ive seen it a bit with a couple of other people who pole fast in the draft camp too.
 
Richard MacSellar said:
IMO the draft camp run isnt all its meant to be, i mean i remember a young luke jericho came 2nd to a daniel wells in his year i think...and...whilst luke is fast over 20 metres...put that into his tackling speed and he couldnt chase a sloth.

ive seen it a bit with a couple of other people who pole fast in the draft camp too.
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You have to also factor in that at draft camp they're running in runners on a basketball court ....very different to boots on a lush grass surface.

Besides footballers rarely run in straight lines in footy games ...generally they are weaving to a degree to avoid opponents ....this brings into question agility and ability to quickly change direction ......a 20 min straight sprint in that scenario is only useful as a benchmark.
 
Wayne's-World said:
You have to also factor in that at draft camp they're running in runners on a basketball court ....very different to boots on a lush grass surface.

Besides footballers rarely run in straight lines in footy games ...generally they are weaving to a degree to avoid opponents ....this brings into question agility and ability to quickly change direction ......a 20 min straight sprint in that scenario is only useful as a benchmark.
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I agree, the DC results dont tell you that much. They give a reflection of how quick a player is but recruiters (most anyway) go off how quick a player looks on the field.

Having said that, an explosive draft camp 20m time would be below 2.93. Basketball court or not, MacKay isnt anywhere near explosive. Good pace maybe because of his nous but not explosive.
 

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David_Brent said:
I agree, the DC results dont tell you that much. They give a reflection of how quick a player is but recruiters (most anyway) go off how quick a player looks on the field.

Having said that, an explosive draft camp 20m time would be below 2.93. Basketball court or not, MacKay isnt anywhere near explosive. Good pace maybe because of his nous but not explosive.
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I agree .....quickish but not explosive .....gets the ball at pace which gives the appearance of being quicker
 
fightingdreamer88 said:
I guess what I'm getting at is that since the Craigster took over, we've had a lot more prospects than before.
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Umm havent we got the same amount on our list as of 7 years ago?

I think you mean there seems to be a better and openness about selection
 
jmorg1 said:
A few young players have shown promise but have proven nothing yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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I think what is being said is that from a pure talent POV we have not had as good a crop of youngsters for many years.

How many actually reach their potential .....well only TWT.

But it is easy to get excited and IMO that's not with any rose colored glasses. ;)
 
Wayne's-World said:
I think what is being said is that from a pure talent POV we have not had as good a crop of youngsters for many years.

How many actually reach their potential .....well only TWT.

But it is easy to get excited and IMO that's not with any rose colored glasses. ;)
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Correct!

For years I have cried out for some ruck talent. That was back in the years of Ben Marsh. Back when we only had 3 ruckman on a list. Now we have some genuine ruck talent. Possibly as good as we've EVER had. Maric, Meesen, Griffin and Tippett are 4 ruck prospects to get genuinely excited about. Luckily for us some of those lads can play as tall forwards so we are likely to see someone like Tippett and Griffin in key forward roles but there is talent and flexibility there that we've never had before.

Some good young midfield prospects. None of them genuine superstars but some real good quality there. We are also well placed in terms of young promising talls, especially if Hentschel can regain his form prior to injury.

Some exciting times ahead. I think the challenges in front of the club now are to develop that youth to their potential AND just as importantly keep them on the list. I suspect there will be some sharks around wanting to entice our players down the track. Thats a worry considering most of our youngsters are from interstate and none of our ruck prospects are local.
 
kinda off topic but doesnt warrant its own thread. Whats the name of that collingwood fan that's a draft expert but people criticized him and he stopped posting????
 

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Stiffy_18 said:
Some good young midfield prospects. None of them genuine superstars but some real good quality there. We are also well placed in terms of young promising talls, especially if Hentschel can regain his form prior to injury.

Some exciting times ahead. I think the challenges in front of the club now are to develop that youth to their potential AND just as importantly keep them on the list. I suspect there will be some sharks around wanting to entice our players down the track. Thats a worry considering most of our youngsters are from interstate and none of our ruck prospects are local.
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Bit early to state that as most are 20/21 and in their second or third year of AFL footy.

There was no early years indicators of Edwards and Goodwins future stardom.....particularly Edwards who looked out of his depth in the early years.

But with Goodwin the signs were there .....his ability to one grab marks under pressure was a clear indicator.

This is why when I see the hand and foot skills of Porplyzia, Vince, Mackay, and the precosiousness of Douglas and with the game reading skills of Knights ....I genuinely get excited . And that's forgetting about Pfieffer ....all these guys IMO will clearly be longterm players
 
Wayne's-World said:
Bit early to state that as most are 20/21 and in their second or third year of AFL footy.

There was no early years indicators of Edwards and Goodwins future stardom.....particularly Edwards who looked out of his depth in the early years.

But with Goodwin the signs were there .....his ability to one grab marks under pressure was a clear indicator.

This is why when I see the hand and foot skills of Porplyzia, Vince, Mackay, and the precosiousness of Douglas and with the game reading skills of Knights ....I genuinely get excited . And that's forgetting about Pfieffer ....all these guys IMO will clearly be longterm players
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Lets hope we can keep them all around for a VERY long time.

Strong ruck prospects, strong KPP prospects and strong midfield prospects. We need to continue getting this young talent into our club. Hope Matt Rendell is up to it!
 

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