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aussierulesrules said:
If this is correct then Gold Coast might just about be happy to get anything they can for him and prefer to get rid of him, especially since they're essentially getting nothing from him on field these days, so anyone they replace him with could give them more than the nothing they're getting from him and as such be an upgrade.

They might be happy to cut their losses and trade him for a mid to late first rounder and perhaps a sweetener. The thing that might make them less inclined to do this though is if Prestia and O'Meara are also about to walk. To lose all 3 of them in one hit would be pretty devastating and then there's the small matter of Ablett also being OOC this year!

They could almost be back to square-one at the end of this year's trade period.
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Ablett is contracted
 
Starting to think North supporters are just Damian Barrett figure toys... Best news breakers in the business... haha.

Why start a thread not even half way through the season about a player open to leaving? Unless it has been heard first hand by David Swallow there is no point spreading rumours like the OP has done. Rumours are rumours and until proven correct do not mean a thing.
 

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Fitzey said:
Starting to think North supporters are just Damian Barrett figure toys... Best news breakers in the business... haha.

Why start a thread not even half way through the season about a player open to leaving? Unless it has been heard first hand by David Swallow there is no point spreading rumours like the OP has done. Rumours are rumours and until proven correct do not mean a thing.
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Can we shut down every other thread on the D&T board then?

It's been mentioned in more than one place in the media.

It's worth a discussion.
 
LynchysMob said:
GC will not easily give up a contracted former number one pick. So if he wants to go (which I also find unlikely but not impossible) you'll have to front up a great deal or wait another year. We still rate his talent highly.
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Fact is though that you have he and O'Meara who you aren't able to get out on the park and who may never play 100 more games each and as every week goes by they are losing currency, on top of not contributing on field. There's a serious risk that if you hang onto Swallow for another year that he could walk at the end of next year and you'd get bugger-all in return for him, so while I'm sure your club "still rates his talent", you may still prefer to let him go this year and take a decent return for him and stop the bleeding/cut your losses and move on.

It could easily be better for all concerned if you traded him to North (who are meant to have the best injury management/prevention in the league) if your club don't feel they have the ability to get on top of his knee issues. Everyone could win out of that deal and it wouldn't necessarily be in your best interests to play hard-ball.
 
aussierulesrules said:
Fact is though that you have he and O'Meara who you aren't able to get out on the park and who may never play 100 more games each and as every week goes by they are losing currency, on top of not contributing on field. There's a serious risk that if you hang onto Swallow for another year that he could walk at the end of next year and you'd get bugger-all in return for him, so while I'm sure your club "still rates his talent", you may still prefer to let him go this year and take a decent return for him and stop the bleeding/cut your losses and move on.

It could easily be better for all concerned if you traded him to North (who are meant to have the best injury management/prevention in the league) if your club don't feel they have the ability to get on top of his knee issues. Everyone could win out of that deal.
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If it is a very good return then I'd be open to it but as I said, we aren't going to be low balled on a contracted player. Also, the club generally don't willingly trade contracted players off recent history. Especially not high draft picks. I'd be very surprised if we did.

You really think Gold Coast are gonna be like yeah our rehab team suck well trade him for unders. We don't have that team any more. We have Justin Cordy now who is one of the best and a number of other new staff in that department.
 
A lot of misinformation in the media too guys. They even got his contract date wrong.
 
LynchysMob said:
If it is a very good return then I'd be open to it but as I said, we aren't going to be low balled on a contracted player. Also, the club generally don't willingly trade contracted players off recent history. Especially not high draft picks. I'd be very surprised if we did.

You really think Gold Coast are gonna be like yeah our rehab team suck well trade him for unders. We don't have that team any more. We have Justin Cordy now who is one of the best and a number of other new staff in that department.
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It's not about them thinking that their "rehab team suck" but solely about their diagnosis. If they don't think he is going to have any sort of career from this point onwards because of what is wrong with his knee then they could very well be happy to ship him off for a reasonable offer.

As things stand right now, there's no way he's worth anything like what he cost you guys to begin with and if your medical team think he's not likely to produce much on field next year, then he'll be worth even less then, and you'll have also wasted a year that you could have been putting into someone else.
 
HBFlanker said:
I would say it would be a factor.
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Why?

In what realm of adult life do you select an employer based on what your missus's friends are up to?

Can you imagine making a decision according to that rationale?

HBFlanker said:
Melbourne also apparently appeals to David's partner massively too.
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Pretty sure there are other teams in Melbourne?
 
aussierulesrules said:
It's not about them thinking that their "rehab team suck" but solely about their diagnosis. If they don't think he is going to have any sort of career from this point onwards because of what is wrong with his knee then they could very well be happy to ship him off for a reasonable offer.

As things stand right now, there's no way he's worth anything like what he cost you guys to begin with and if your medical team think he's not likely to produce much on field next year, then he'll be worth even less then, and you'll have also wasted a year that you could have been putting into someone else.
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Yeah working off that premise that the Suns staff have even said that then maybe. Is there any solid evidence of that actually being true?

Im not going to work off that premise unless it's actually true.
 
LynchysMob said:
Yeah working off that premise that the Suns staff have even said that then maybe. Is there any solid evidence of that actually being true?
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Not that I'm aware of. Even if it was more than just a rumour do you really think that a club would come out and publicly say so though? It would be shooting themselves in the foot from a trade perspective to say that someone they might be able to get a good return for was rooted, so all we're dealing with here are hypotheticals.
 
aussierulesrules said:
Not that I'm aware of. Even if it was more than just a rumour do you really think that a club would come out and publicly say so though? It would be shooting themselves in the foot from a trade perspective to say that someone they might be able to get a good return for was rooted, so all we're dealing with here are hypotheticals.
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I don't think so but you'd at least want something more than big footy tripe. I just don't think it's true personally unless convinced otherwise by multiple media reports at the very least.
 

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LynchysMob said:
I don't think so but you'd at least want something more than big footy tripe. I just don't think it's true personally unless convinced otherwise by multiple media reports at the very least.
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Well you're not likely to get that, as unless they're pretty incompetent they'd keep that pretty close to their chests if it was correct, so I guess you either talk about it hypothetically, or not at all.

If all we spoke about on here was certainties there wouldn't be much to talk about I wouldn't have thought!
 
Sweet Jesus said:
Why?

In what realm of adult life do you select an employer based on what your missus's friends are up to?

Can you imagine making a decision according to that rationale?

Pretty sure there are other teams in Melbourne?
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you love your pointless arguments
 

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aussierulesrules said:
Well you're not likely to get that, as unless they're pretty incompetent they'd keep that pretty close to their chests if it was correct, so I guess you either talk about it hypothetically, or not at all.

If all we spoke about on here was certainties there wouldn't be much to talk about I wouldn't have thought!
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I agree but at the same time usually something discussion worthy has at the very least some tweet behind it. I have no idea where this came from and knowing the club I doubt it's true. They're usually far too optimistic on injuries if anything.
 
Pykie said:
Now before people jump down my throat.

I've never been in the Swallow to North crap over the last few years that others have been all over.

But the peristant rumors surrounding Swallow seem to suggest he could be on the move at the end of this season.

Those rumors suggest that he was given a near career ending diagnosis from GC medico's during his last PCL setback. He sought a second opinion and even spent some time with North's medico's in recent months who gave him a different recovery program, their opinions weren't too kind on his injury prevention training.

Recent interviews from Andrew suggest he is considering his options based on getting on the park next year...not just with North, but based on his best chance of getting fit next year.
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I find it hard to believe Gold Coast allowed Swallow to be checked out by another clubs medicos. Very hard to believe.
 
HBFlanker said:
Its family for one.
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His brother is family. But surely his girlfriend and his brother's wife are not related to each other?

Again, why would anyone choose an employer with that in mind?

HBFlanker said:
Relax champ
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I'm loose as a goose, champ.

Choomah said:
you love your pointless arguments
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I just think it's a weird rationale to suggest a player moving to a certain club - his girlfriend is friends with his brother's wife. That's nice. But does that mean they have to be bum chums 24/7? Surely living in the same city would suffice plenty.
 
Sweet Jesus said:
His brother is family. But surely his girlfriend and his brother's wife are not related to each other?

Again, why would anyone choose an employer with that in mind?

I'm loose as a goose, champ.



I just think it's a weird rationale to suggest a player moving to a certain club - his girlfriend is friends with his brother's wife. That's nice. But does that mean they have to be bum chums 24/7? Surely living in the same city would suffice plenty.
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Bias aside I have to agree. What an odd thing to use as reasoning.
 
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