Not sure about the second rounders. Isn't Nicholls our first second rounders in about four years? Nothing surer than Freo trading out their future second rounder.
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Roast David Walls -draft master but trade flop
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The McVee trade will go down as a great trade is my prediction. Supporters have a natural bias assessing trades so most trades are deemed to be paying overs by th in klie team getting a player for either picks or another player. One thing Walls has done successfully is that he has gotten players who have wanted to come to the club to the club if that makes sense. I've had a look at the draft and there is very little difference between the quality of players which will be available at 12 (likely pick 15 or 16) and players at 19 (eg likely to be taken around 23-25). In fact at around 25 there are a ton of wingers and small forwards who would fill a need on our list unlike pick 16 where if we went best available and get someone like Phillipou or Dovaston but I don't think they are significantly better than those who will be available at our current pick who fill a need like Oudshoorn-Bennier, Barker, Oskar Taylor, Narn, Fred or Picket to name but a few. That's why I like Walls doing the trading to be honest. He can link up draft info to our trading process. I also think 19 might go down as much as many are predicting. The first GC pick is likely to include 2 picks before 19 at least.
Forgot about the players we traded out. I expect we are looking at a free agent or two as we should still have most of the war-chest we were going to throw at Warner.
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Before you all start crying how about you read the analysis from the ABC that is more than skin deep compared to other media outlets.
Interesting stuff and provides more clarity.
Which team came out the most ahead in the AFL draft period and does free agency need fixing? - ABC News https://share.google/CiB6KB5VJLM5tlSV2
Interesting stuff and provides more clarity.
Which team came out the most ahead in the AFL draft period and does free agency need fixing? - ABC News https://share.google/CiB6KB5VJLM5tlSV2
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Regarding Reid, the thinking would have been around which players are going to be in the mix at our pick, and Walls being happy with the likely options.
The talk being that one of Berry, Allen or Reid would be there (I liked Cooper Hynes who went 3 picks later and Berry).
This trade pick exchange has the same whiff about it.
I'm sure it will given you wanted to trade 2 X 2nd rounders for him.
Walls has kept it simple.
- grab McVee
- have a shot at a decent prospect in the draft range he rates
- focus on NGA players
Looks like we have absolutely killed it. Kudos Wallsy
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Looks like we have absolutely killed it. Kudos Wallsy
Apparently he absolutely butchered it according to most in here
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Yes absolutely
You have to trust the data and it's only effectual if the said player actually performs for their new club at the level expected from them.
Not the knowledgeable posters like you and I though. We are smert!
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I was also going to mention this. The only thing is not all pick 3s are the same let alone players deeper in the draft.
They may have incorporated expected return into some of their calculations without expressly mentioning it.
One curiosity this year is that lots say this years draft is crap after pick 15 or 20 or so. Personally I don’t know how anyone can make that statement with such certainty at this early stage but anyway.
Then they say we’ve done really well to get the pick swaps to secure NGA players like Whan and Luke at the very end of the draft/rookie draft.
But If the draft really is crap though… doesn’t that mean that we shouldnt bother selecting those players?
If they aren’t good enough for the top 50 or so
Then they say we’ve done really well to get the pick swaps to secure NGA players like Whan and Luke at the very end of the draft/rookie draft.
But If the draft really is crap though… doesn’t that mean that we shouldnt bother selecting those players?
If they aren’t good enough for the top 50 or so
I dunno.
Twomey doesn’t have Blake Oodshorn-Bennier in the top 30, and that kid looks really good, so I reckon there’s some talent kicking around
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Look like some injured players who couldn't play in 2025 properly may be a bargain and a tally better than the top 30... like BOB,Mikunda,Tom Matthews and one key forward from Victoria..I forgot his name.. and may be more
A bit of the shine has come off the draft master is recent years as well.
The entire 2022-23 cohort looks pretty grim.
Sebit Kuik (MSD) - delisted without a game
Hugh Davies - 2 games (0 in 2025)
Tom Emmett - delisted after 15 games (bit unlucky actually)
Max Knobel - Poached by GCS after 0 games - still on 0 games.
Corey Wagner - looked good for a while. Could still be. Possibly the shinning light of the group.
Josh Draper - looked OK for a while. Replaced as injury cover by McDonald.
Conrad Williams - delisted wthout a game
Ethan Stanley - MSD - delisted after 2 games
Cooper Simpson - 5 games. Jury out.
Ollie Murphy - plays reserves at Peel
Jack DeLean - delisted without a game
Odin Jones - delisted without a game
He did get good value out of the SSPs recently though (Sharp (kind of), Voss, Narke and Dudley) and Murphy Reid is a star so he still on good standing.
Needs a good draft this year and next to regain his crown as 'draft master'.
The entire 2022-23 cohort looks pretty grim.
Sebit Kuik (MSD) - delisted without a game
Hugh Davies - 2 games (0 in 2025)
Tom Emmett - delisted after 15 games (bit unlucky actually)
Max Knobel - Poached by GCS after 0 games - still on 0 games.
Corey Wagner - looked good for a while. Could still be. Possibly the shinning light of the group.
Josh Draper - looked OK for a while. Replaced as injury cover by McDonald.
Conrad Williams - delisted wthout a game
Ethan Stanley - MSD - delisted after 2 games
Cooper Simpson - 5 games. Jury out.
Ollie Murphy - plays reserves at Peel
Jack DeLean - delisted without a game
Odin Jones - delisted without a game
He did get good value out of the SSPs recently though (Sharp (kind of), Voss, Narke and Dudley) and Murphy Reid is a star so he still on good standing.
Needs a good draft this year and next to regain his crown as 'draft master'.
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Bit of a shallow analysis considering we've had one first round pick in the last 3 years (who is a gun and will be one of the best players in the league) and Simpson is promising, looks like a bargain for where we drafted him.
The rest were lower, speculative and development project picks
Still to early but I count 3 AFL standard players from 2 drafts plus we used our 1st rounders for Jackson who is an A grader.
1 A grader and 3 AFL players every 2 years is fine and those are his worst 2 drafts ever.
Of course it would look better with high picks, but it doesn't take a 'draft master' to pick good players in the single digits. I think his reputation is built on using those late picks really well - Schultz, Freddy, Switta, Meek, Ryan, Treacy etc.
I'm not having a go, I'm just pointing out it's been a while since he's had that knack outside mature agers.
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