David Warner

[Fat Nyfe]

Watching how the three re entered Australia, I can’t help but feel whoever advised Warner not to talk and to hide behind his kids was way off the mark.

He might still be considering an appeal. Spending time with 'trusted advisers'

 

[JackOutback]

Think warner comes out looking the worst in all this

I don't even like Warner, but this seems deliberate. He is being thrown under the bus as a Bond villain who corrupted the innocent Smith. I don't trust the narrative and I don't like it. As for his return, if you're not going to tell the whole truth, you should probably say nothing. While Smith and Bancroft look better for showing their real pain, the fact they continue to lie about ball tampering in general and hide the truth about the incident in particular will do them no good in the long term.

 

[The_Reaper]

Warner may be book stupid but I think he knows that CA have marked is books so why put himself through the ritual humiliation of a press conference?

Smith and Bancroft on the other hand had to rock up and face the music eventually and while it was obviously tough, the press conferences are already opening the door for their return as far as the public is concerned.

 

[Falcon27]

The late great Martin Crowe wrote in 2015 on cricinfo(quoted today on news.com) and how spot on he was.....


“Warner can play, but he is the most juvenile cricketer I have seen on a cricket field. I don’t care how good he is. If he continues to show all those watching that he doesn’t care, he must be removed,”

“The more he gets away with it, the more others will follow his pitiful actions. Already we see one or two of his teammates enjoying being close to his hideous energy.”

Wow, That is the most accurate assessment of Warner to date.
Just get the feeling, given Warner’s absolute lack of respect for anything but himself, he is going to come out fighting as if he has been wronged by the system.

 

[PhatBoy]

Yeah.
Like I don't condone people going after Warner's wife but once you get into a slinging match someone is going to go below the belt eventually yeah?

So don't get involved if you going to take something personally rather than a retort aimed at getting under your skin.

Absolutely.

 

[Farm Boy]

I don't even like Warner, but this seems deliberate. He is being thrown under the bus as a Bond villain who corrupted the innocent Smith. I don't trust the narrative and I don't like it. As for his return, if you're not going to tell the whole truth, you should probably say nothing. While Smith and Bancroft look better for showing their real pain, the fact they continue to lie about ball tampering in general and hide the truth about the incident in particular will do them no good in the long term.

Warner made a mistake not to come out before Smith and Bancroft. Warner should have came out early and accepted the blame, and put on a stoic face. If he did then it wouldn't have affected him as much. We expect this from Dave Warner. It was weak that Warner didn't shoulder the blame early. Smith was left to shoulder much of the blame, and quite frankly, he isn't cut out for it. Steve Smith is a sook. He is now and always has been a sook. Warner was selfish letting Smith cop the heat. It shows that he wasn't leadership material in any form. It will be good to see the back of Warner.

 

[aflcliche]

De Kock can speak English perfectly fine.

Warner can't

 

[Ben B 96]

Sorry if I've missed it but has anyone heard from slats

 

[Blue1980]

I don't even like Warner, but this seems deliberate. He is being thrown under the bus as a Bond villain who corrupted the innocent Smith. I don't trust the narrative and I don't like it. As for his return, if you're not going to tell the whole truth, you should probably say nothing. While Smith and Bancroft look better for showing their real pain, the fact they continue to lie about ball tampering in general and hide the truth about the incident in particular will do them no good in the long term.

What is this greater truth you are convinced we haven't uncovered?

 

[Blue1980]

Warner can't

Cardoons

 

[revo333]

He might still be considering an appeal. Spending time with 'trusted advisers'

And if he wins the appeal they can still not select him to play anyway...

 

[Blue1980]

And if he wins the appeal they can still not select him to play anyway...

Does Dave Warner have his own Tracy Holmes to turn to?

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Does Dave Warner have his own Tracy Holmes to turn to?

I must admit I've had a laugh at some of her tweets, saying the only to redemption is to own the mistake, etc.

 

[Blue1980]

I must admit I've had a laugh at some of her tweets, saying the only to redemption is to own the mistake, etc.

All the while Hirdy and Essendon were victims of a witch hunt in her mind

 

[JackOutback]

What is this greater truth you are convinced we haven't uncovered?

That this is not the first time Australia has tampered with the ball, and more than three people know about it. I honestly think you have to be pretty naive to believe otherwise. I have it on good authority that ball tampering takes place at grade level, it's part of the game that no one wants to admit.

 

[Blue1980]

That this is not the first time Australia has tampered with the ball, and more than three people know about it. I honestly think you have to be pretty naive to believe otherwise. I have it on good authority that ball tampering takes place at grade level, it's part of the game that no one wants to admit.

I'd agree with the before, but I don't agree with everyone knowing about the sandpaper or that had been done before.

 

[Pedro]

That this is not the first time Australia has tampered with the ball, and more than three people know about it. I honestly think you have to be pretty naive to believe otherwise. I have it on good authority that ball tampering takes place at grade level, it's part of the game that no one wants to admit.

Plenty would deny it, but if you believe Brett Geeves its pretty commonplace. He cited instances in Shield cricket where it happened and everyone knew about it. Tried it himself but didn't persist because he realised he was no good at it. As you say, it would be naive to believe it doesn't go on (or at least has gone on) a lot more than we'd care to believe.

 

[JackOutback]

I'd agree with the before, but I don't agree with everyone knowing about the sandpaper or that had been done before.

This may be the first time Warner chose to use sandpaper, but if he was using other methods before, you can't tell me the wicketkeeper and slip didn't know. The actual method is less relevant than the fact it was happening.

 

[thejockey]

Watching how the three re entered Australia, I can’t help but feel whoever advised Warner not to talk and to hide behind his kids was way off the mark.

I'm no Warner fan but I can see why he would have wanted the support of his wife and kids there, looks like they basically tour with him full time which is odd in itself

But perception is everything and most people will see it as an orchestrated set up to garner sympathy, if any .

I know there is no way I would put my own kids in public view in that same circumstance but each to there own

 

[thejockey]

That this is not the first time Australia has tampered with the ball, and more than three people know about it. I honestly think you have to be pretty naive to believe otherwise. I have it on good authority that ball tampering takes place at grade level, it's part of the game that no one wants to admit.

Can only talk for my experience but it does happen semi regularly , but in a more subtle manner . Have seen sunscreens , baby ointments used
You actually need bowlers who can exploit especially reverse swing , if you can get it going
At grade level I never saw it as having a huge impact in the game imo

 

[The Daicos]

Channel 7 just refferred to Dave Warner as 'The ball tampering ringleader'. Sounds a bit debauched.

 

[The Daicos]

I don't even like Warner, but this seems deliberate. He is being thrown under the bus as a Bond villain who corrupted the innocent Smith. I don't trust the narrative and I don't like it. As for his return, if you're not going to tell the whole truth, you should probably say nothing. While Smith and Bancroft look better for showing their real pain, the fact they continue to lie about ball tampering in general and hide the truth about the incident in particular will do them no good in the long term.

I just hate the fact that Warner never had to grow up and still got fame fortune and a hot wife. So his comeuppance in all of this is the silver lining for me.

 

[Spook]

I feel sorry for the bloke.

Made a very stupid decision but it’s been an emotionally charged series. The comments and saga surrounding his wife by the South Africans was out of line and would have influenced his decision.

So Warner spends 2 hours making crude vitriolic remarks about De Kock body and also disparaging remarks about de Kock sister. Then de Kock makes 1 remark back and Warner loses the plot..... what a piece of work Warner is, typical coward, can give it but can’t take it, many have known his true character but have down played it, but now the whole world knows what type of human he really is.
He will be remembered as a great batsman who didn’t play the game with any grace or sportsmanship.

 

[Hamingja]

Does Dave Warner have his own Tracy Holmes to turn to?

Slats.

 

[DrEvil_]

I just hate the fact that Warner never had to grow up and still got fame fortune and a hot wife. So his comeuppance in all of this is the silver lining for me.

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