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By saying she brought shame to her dying father? That's a loose interpretation of holding someone to account


Well, that is a terrible thing to say.

Mind you, I wonder if you would be so defensive if the same thing had been said by a Left-wing commentator towards Tony Abbott?

Gillard didn't mind slandering Abbott, did she?
 
Genuine question is:

What specifically has Warner been suspended for? Anyone know what aspect of the findings, investigation etc led to his name been put forward? Because as it originally stood Warner was not even mentioned.

Unless Smith's leadership group mention was Warner had been ball tampering with the bandages all series then when scrutinised handed over to Bancroft.
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Well, that is a terrible thing to say.

Mind you, I wonder if you would be so defensive if the same thing had been said by a Left-wing commentator towards Tony Abbott?

Gillard didn't mind slandering Abbott, did she?

I was talking about Alan Jones. Let's not turn this into a left/right ideological snorefest.
 

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And Bancroft just did it that very first time without question. Bancroft needed a lesson on how to use sandpaper?


I must have been. So let me return.
1. Australia have never ball tampered before and this is a one off.
2. Warner suggested Bancroft ball tamper.
3. Bancroft never having tampered before "sugar cough sugar" nor been exposed to the practice after years of 1st class experience needed a lesson on how to use sandpaper
4. Smith didn't know the exact details but was punished as captain.
5. Lehman and the rest of the team knew nothing.
6. Almost forgot Warner is the Mastermind of the whole scheme so has worn the most flak.

Right. Don't think it's been me on Mars if anyone believes this crap.


Why is it that you don't believe Warner is the mastermind??? And what would you prefer to do? Suspend the entire Australian team?? CA needs to protect the team too, if there are something that the general public don't know about, then deal with it closed-door.
 
suggestion made on 3AW today that given that Smith and Warner weren't on the same plane home, how could they exist in the same team for Shield cricket? Warner might consider changing state?

Hardly comparable, the incident had just happened and both of them probably weren't in the right head space to be in the same room as one another. It could be a different store in a year or twos time when they potentially play together again, that just sounds like more media gossip.
 
Why is it that you don't believe Warner is the mastermind??? And what would you prefer to do? Suspend the entire Australian team?? CA needs to protect the team too, if there are something that the general public don't know about, then deal with it closed-door.

Exactly, their already going above and beyond what they needed to do, what else is there to sort out? Public hangings?

It would be like an AFL club suspending a player for 10 matches for being a de goey but then trying to say others may or may not have let him drive so they should be banned too.
 
Why is it that you don't believe Warner is the mastermind??? And what would you prefer to do? Suspend the entire Australian team?? CA needs to protect the team too, if there are something that the general public don't know about, then deal with it closed-door.
For some reason the word "mastermind" just doesn't seem right when talking about Davey. :)
 
Why is it that you don't believe Warner is the mastermind??? And what would you prefer to do? Suspend the entire Australian team?? CA needs to protect the team too, if there are something that the general public don't know about, then deal with it closed-door.

Because ball tampering has been around since the year dot. Warner hardly invented it or sandpaper. Unless he deliberately targeted Bancroft and bullied him into it he can feel aggrieved.

For all the outcry and talk of CA cleaning up the culture then yes suspend the team if that is what it takes. Absolutely hate the scapegoating and whitewashing. This is my point the General Public puts its time and money in so should know everything. Otherwise save the PR exercise and let the umpires and ICC deal with it.

Personally I'd have just removed Smith and Warner from the c and VC and given Smith and Bancroft 4-5 test suspension.
 
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Roxy's hit the octane switch on the PR:



The Warners have supported Hannah Mouncey. Roxy's pulled the rainbow card.

And it's also a move from the Ben Stokes defence playbook, where Piers Morgan led the charge defending Stokes' right to coward punch a guy because he was defending two gay guys.

Reminds me of the Hird PR offensive
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/cri...ammates/ar-AAvodT2?li=AAavLaF&ocid=spartandhp

This bloke thinks he is bigger than the game now, he is going all legal in the hope that this episode will be erased.

The more he refuses to answer the hard questions whilst engaging lawyers to save his sorry arse, the more I want him removed from our game forever.
Do what ya gotta do Dave...do what ya gotta do.

It'll just take time to sort it all out, then Warner will be back, a better player and person.

I actually think that he's already a good bloke, just a bit over the top on the field at times.

He'll be back banging out tons and hopefully sooner rather than later.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/cri...ammates/ar-AAvodT2?li=AAavLaF&ocid=spartandhp

This bloke thinks he is bigger than the game now, he is going all legal in the hope that this episode will be erased.

The more he refuses to answer the hard questions whilst engaging lawyers to save his sorry arse, the more I want him removed from our game forever.
Nonsense he has every right to appeal.

In fact he has a foolproof argument.

Ray Hadley thinks the punishment was appropriate therefore it was way too long.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/cri...ammates/ar-AAvodT2?li=AAavLaF&ocid=spartandhp

This bloke thinks he is bigger than the game now, he is going all legal in the hope that this episode will be erased.

The more he refuses to answer the hard questions whilst engaging lawyers to save his sorry arse, the more I want him removed from our game forever.
I'm no fan, but do you apply the same logic to Smith? Won't answer the hard questions while investigating options for appeal. Do you want him removed from the game forever?
 

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As far as I'm concerned this match alone invalidates the "He's just a big guy with a railway sleeper" argument.

Ok with the bat but very average thinking that day.

I didn't like him much at all but those trying to pin this shit on him is pretty low.
 
Do what ya gotta do Dave...do what ya gotta do.

It'll just take time to sort it all out, then Warner will be back, a better player and person.

I actually think that he's already a good bloke, just a bit over the top on the field at times.

He'll be back banging out tons and hopefully sooner rather than later.
He will never be back playing for Australia if that's what you meant by back. It's quite delusional to think otherwise
 
He will never be back playing for Australia if that's what you meant by back. It's quite delusional to think otherwise

He’d have to make a truck load of runs and mend a lot of burnt bridges and for us to be struggling too.

If any of those conditions aren’t met he doesn’t come back
 

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