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Draft Expert Davo-27's 2023 Draft Thread

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Are the VIC trial games available to watch any where?
 
what is the story with that... are clutch paying the afl some dollars? Imo ...all of them should be on Kayo min ... if not the afl website
I don't know why, but the 3 main football states have different sites streaming games, there's cluch for VIC, streamer for WA and Kommunity for SA...
 

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Top 40 June

1. Harley Reid - Bendigo - 185cm 85kg
2. Jed Walter - Gold Coast A - 195cm 91kg (GCSA)
3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg
4. Daniel Curtin - Claremont - 196cm 91kg
5. Jake Rogers - Gold Coast A - 172cm 67kg (GCSA)
6. Nick Watson - Eastern - 170cm 67kg
7. Nate Caddy - Northern - 192cm 91kg
8. Darcy Wilson - Murray - 185cm 73kg
9. Jack Delean - Sth Adel - 181cm 73kg
10. Mitch Edwards - Peel - 207cm 90kg (Frem NGA)
11. Zane Duursma - Gippsland - 189cm 79kg
12. Koltyn Tholstrup - Subiaco - 188cm 80kg
13. Logan Evans - Norwood - 188cm 77kg
14. Harry Demattia - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
15. Nathan Philactides - Oakleigh - 181cm 78kg
16. Harvey Johnston - Sandringham - 184cm 76kg
17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw FS)
18. Ethan Read - Gold Coast A - 200cm 90kg (GCSA)
19. Ollie Murphy - Sandringham - 200cm 85kg
20. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB FS)
21. Archer Reid - Gippsland - 203cm 93kg
22. Ryley Sanders - Sandringham(Tas) - 186cm 85kg
23. Thomas Anastasopoulos - Geelong - 176cm 66kg
24. Will Lorenz - Oakleigh - 186cm 70kg
25. Ashton Moir - Glenlg - 188cm 84kg
26. Joel Freijah - GWV - 191cm 86kg
27. Riley Hardeman - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg
28. Will Brown - Sandringham - 194cm 86kg
29. Angus Hastie - Geelong - 189cm 77kg
30. Miles Enders - Sandringham - 188cm 86kg
31. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
32. Connor O'Sullivan - Murray - 198cm 92kg
33. Will Patton - Wst Adel - 192cm 79kg
34. Clay Hall - Peel - 190cm 85kg
35. Oskar Smartt - Bendigo - 179cm 85kg
36. Koen Sanchez - East Frem - 178cm 71kg
37. Alex Holt - Sturt - 180cm 73kg
38. Sam Frangalas - Dandenong - 187cm 85kg
39. Billy Wilson - Dandenong - 182cm 71kg
40. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg

i am curious as to how Wil Dawson and Sam Van Rooyen go...
 
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Top 40 June

1. Harley Reid - Bendigo - 185cm 85kg
2. Jed Walter - Gold Coast A - 195cm 91kg (GCSA)
3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg
4. Daniel Curtin - Claremont - 196cm 91kg
5. Jake Rogers - Gold Coast A - 172cm 67kg (GCSA)
6. Nick Watson - Eastern - 170cm 67kg
7. Nate Caddy - Northern - 192cm 91kg
8. Darcy Wilson - Murray - 185cm 73kg
9. Jack Delean - Sth Adel - 181cm 73kg
10. Mitch Edwards - Peel - 207cm 90kg (Frem NGA)
11. Zane Duursma - Gippsland - 189cm 79kg
12. Koltyn Tholstrup - Subiaco - 188cm 80kg
13. Logan Evans - Norwood - 188cm 77kg
14. Harry Demattia - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
15. Nathan Philactides - Oakleigh - 181cm 78kg
16. Harvey Johnston - Sandringham - 184cm 76kg
17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw FS)
18. Ethan Read - Gold Coast A - 200cm 90kg (GCSA)
19. Ollie Murphy - Sandringham - 200cm 85kg
20. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB FS)
21. Archer Reid - Gippsland - 203cm 93kg
22. Ryley Sanders - Sandringham(Tas) - 186cm 85kg
23. Thomas Anastasopoulos - Geelong - 176cm 66kg
24. Will Lorenz - Oakleigh - 186cm 70kg
25. Ashton Moir - Glenlg - 188cm 84kg
26. Joel Freijah - GWV - 191cm 86kg
27. Riley Hardeman - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg
28. Will Brown - Sandringham - 194cm 86kg
29. Angus Hastie - Geelong - 189cm 77kg
30. Miles Enders - Sandringham - 188cm 86kg
31. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
32. Connor O'Sullivan - Murray - 198cm 92kg
33. Will Patton - Wst Adel - 192cm 79kg
34. Clay Hall - Peel - 190cm 85kg
35. Oskar Smartt - Bendigo - 179cm 85kg
36. Koen Sanchez - East Frem - 178cm 71kg
37. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
38. Sam Frangalas - Dandenong - 187cm 85kg
39. Billy Wilson - Dandenong - 182cm 71kg
40. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg

Moir dropping like Enron.
 
Moir dropping like Enron.
if you saw his 2 AFL Academy games and his champs game you would understand why, in the bottom 6 for all 3 games, even his 1 goal for SA was a Steven Bradbury moment where 3 players over ran a bad bounce from the footy and he was 10m lagging behind them and received a very lucky gift with a soccer goal.
 
Top 40 June

1. Harley Reid - Bendigo - 185cm 85kg
2. Jed Walter - Gold Coast A - 195cm 91kg (GCSA)
3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg
4. Daniel Curtin - Claremont - 196cm 91kg
5. Jake Rogers - Gold Coast A - 172cm 67kg (GCSA)
6. Nick Watson - Eastern - 170cm 67kg
7. Nate Caddy - Northern - 192cm 91kg
8. Darcy Wilson - Murray - 185cm 73kg
9. Jack Delean - Sth Adel - 181cm 73kg
10. Mitch Edwards - Peel - 207cm 90kg (Frem NGA)
11. Zane Duursma - Gippsland - 189cm 79kg
12. Koltyn Tholstrup - Subiaco - 188cm 80kg
13. Logan Evans - Norwood - 188cm 77kg
14. Harry Demattia - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
15. Nathan Philactides - Oakleigh - 181cm 78kg
16. Harvey Johnston - Sandringham - 184cm 76kg
17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw FS)
18. Ethan Read - Gold Coast A - 200cm 90kg (GCSA)
19. Ollie Murphy - Sandringham - 200cm 85kg
20. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB FS)
21. Archer Reid - Gippsland - 203cm 93kg
22. Ryley Sanders - Sandringham(Tas) - 186cm 85kg
23. Thomas Anastasopoulos - Geelong - 176cm 66kg
24. Will Lorenz - Oakleigh - 186cm 70kg
25. Ashton Moir - Glenlg - 188cm 84kg
26. Joel Freijah - GWV - 191cm 86kg
27. Riley Hardeman - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg
28. Will Brown - Sandringham - 194cm 86kg
29. Angus Hastie - Geelong - 189cm 77kg
30. Miles Enders - Sandringham - 188cm 86kg
31. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
32. Connor O'Sullivan - Murray - 198cm 92kg
33. Will Patton - Wst Adel - 192cm 79kg
34. Clay Hall - Peel - 190cm 85kg
35. Oskar Smartt - Bendigo - 179cm 85kg
36. Koen Sanchez - East Frem - 178cm 71kg
37. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
38. Sam Frangalas - Dandenong - 187cm 85kg
39. Billy Wilson - Dandenong - 182cm 71kg
40. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg

i am curious as to how Wil Dawson and Sam Van Rooyen go...
Like the bombers a few years back, how do we get pick 6,7,8 if your order is right!
 
Top 40 June

1. Harley Reid - Bendigo - 185cm 85kg
2. Jed Walter - Gold Coast A - 195cm 91kg (GCSA)
3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg
4. Daniel Curtin - Claremont - 196cm 91kg
5. Jake Rogers - Gold Coast A - 172cm 67kg (GCSA)
6. Nick Watson - Eastern - 170cm 67kg
7. Nate Caddy - Northern - 192cm 91kg
8. Darcy Wilson - Murray - 185cm 73kg
9. Jack Delean - Sth Adel - 181cm 73kg
10. Mitch Edwards - Peel - 207cm 90kg (Frem NGA)
11. Zane Duursma - Gippsland - 189cm 79kg
12. Koltyn Tholstrup - Subiaco - 188cm 80kg
13. Logan Evans - Norwood - 188cm 77kg
14. Harry Demattia - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
15. Nathan Philactides - Oakleigh - 181cm 78kg
16. Harvey Johnston - Sandringham - 184cm 76kg
17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw FS)
18. Ethan Read - Gold Coast A - 200cm 90kg (GCSA)
19. Ollie Murphy - Sandringham - 200cm 85kg
20. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB FS)
21. Archer Reid - Gippsland - 203cm 93kg
22. Ryley Sanders - Sandringham(Tas) - 186cm 85kg
23. Thomas Anastasopoulos - Geelong - 176cm 66kg
24. Will Lorenz - Oakleigh - 186cm 70kg
25. Ashton Moir - Glenlg - 188cm 84kg
26. Joel Freijah - GWV - 191cm 86kg
27. Riley Hardeman - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg
28. Will Brown - Sandringham - 194cm 86kg
29. Angus Hastie - Geelong - 189cm 77kg
30. Miles Enders - Sandringham - 188cm 86kg
31. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
32. Connor O'Sullivan - Murray - 198cm 92kg
33. Will Patton - Wst Adel - 192cm 79kg
34. Clay Hall - Peel - 190cm 85kg
35. Oskar Smartt - Bendigo - 179cm 85kg
36. Koen Sanchez - East Frem - 178cm 71kg
37. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
38. Sam Frangalas - Dandenong - 187cm 85kg
39. Billy Wilson - Dandenong - 182cm 71kg
40. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg

i am curious as to how Wil Dawson and Sam Van Rooyen go...
Love your work Davo. Never going to please everyone would love to hear your thoughts on the below.

Personally I’d swap Koltyn and Sanders around. Think Sanders has gone under the radar all year. I know he’s not fashionable with his socks up and maybe his JHF resemblance leaves a bad taste in some people’s mouth but he gets the job done. His game on the weekend should have reinforced the good work he’s done for the year.
Koltyn has unfortunately been a little underwhelming to date I’d love to see him fire for WA in the champs.
 
Love your work Davo. Never going to please everyone would love to hear your thoughts on the below.

Personally I’d swap Koltyn and Sanders around. Think Sanders has gone under the radar all year. I know he’s not fashionable with his socks up and maybe his JHF resemblance leaves a bad taste in some people’s mouth but he gets the job done. His game on the weekend should have reinforced the good work he’s done for the year.
Koltyn has unfortunately been a little underwhelming to date I’d love to see him fire for WA in the champs.
Ive said this elsewhere, Sanders is an accumulator that feeds the more athletic players and better users in a team, as a contested player he does a lot right, but why i rate him lower than some is because i think he lacks impact with poss, it was good to see him kick 2 goals while he was floating just inside the 50m arc with a 50m penalty making 1 a certainty, he can be a serial handballer and chip kicker, he isnt the type to hit a player down the line or break defences, whereas Koltyn has got the points on the board with his performances in 2021 and 2022, this year he has played 5 WAFL seniors games and 2 AFL Academy games so his output is likely reduced, but we'll see how he goes in the champs where he has a chance to shine against opponents his own age, so i'll back him in for now.
 
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Ive said this elsewhere, Sanders is an accumulator that feeds the more athletic players and better users in a team, as a contested player he does a lot right, but why i rate him lower than some is because i think he lacks impact with poss, it was good to see him kick 2 goals while he was floating just inside the 50m arc with a 50m penalty making 1 a certainty, he can be a serial handballer and chip kicker, he isnt the type to hit a player down the line or break defences, whereas Koltyn has got the points on the board with his performances in 2021 and 2022, this year he has played 5 WAFL seniors games and 2 AFL Academy games so his output is likely reduced, but we'll see how he goes in the champs where he has a chance to shine against opponents his own age, so i'll back him in for now.
I always hope you're right and I hope you're right about Tholstrup even more than usually I hope you're usually right and he returns to his mercurial best of April to June 2022. Others from WA have stepped up and that's great but I hate watching players fade. Tyzreise Clark was painful to watch for me.
 
I always hope you're right and I hope you're right about Tholstrup even more than usually I hope you're usually right and he returns to his mercurial best of April to June 2022. Others from WA have stepped up and that's great but I hate watching players fade. Tyzreise Clark was painful to watch for me.
i have noticed over the years that some players do fade badly, but i like to be a little patient and see if thats the case.
 
Scrap Father Son first.
You academies are basically father son, except you choose who their ‘father’ is so you get access. ‘Blakey? Naaaa, that’s Nick Goodes’.
Father-son at least has some sentiment and a randomness factor to it. You literally get to hand pick.
 
You academies are basically father son, except you choose who their ‘father’ is so you get access. ‘Blakey? Naaaa, that’s Nick Goodes’.
Father-son at least has some sentiment and a randomness factor to it. You literally get to hand pick.
So you want the Vic clubs to keep Father Son while GWS and GC who will not have access to Father Sons for at least another 15-20 years to do away with academies.
 
So you want the Vic clubs to keep Father Son while GWS and GC who will not have access to Father Sons for at least another 15-20 years to do away with academies.
GWS and Gold Coast can have them for now, Tassie will need something in place too but Sydney and Brisbane can **** off.

I also think there should be no discount for either father-son or academies.
 

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Ive said this elsewhere, Sanders is an accumulator that feeds the more athletic players and better users in a team, as a contested player he does a lot right, but why i rate him lower than some is because i think he lacks impact with poss, it was good to see him kick 2 goals while he was floating just inside the 50m arc with a 50m penalty making 1 a certainty, he can be a serial handballer and chip kicker, he isnt the type to hit a player down the line or break defences, whereas Koltyn has got the points on the board with his performances in 2021 and 2022, this year he has played 5 WAFL seniors games and 2 AFL Academy games so his output is likely reduced, but we'll see how he goes in the champs where he has a chance to shine against opponents his own age, so i'll back him in for now.
Koltyn was one of the guys I was hoping to watch the most this year so hopefully your right and he turns it on at 18’s level.

I still think people are underestimating Sanders and finding reasons to rate lower than look at some of the stuff he does well. I thought he used the ball well on the weekend.
Respect your view however and keep up the good work 👍🏻
 
Top 40 June

1. Harley Reid - Bendigo - 185cm 85kg
2. Jed Walter - Gold Coast A - 195cm 91kg (GCSA)
3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg
4. Daniel Curtin - Claremont - 196cm 91kg
5. Jake Rogers - Gold Coast A - 172cm 67kg (GCSA)
6. Nick Watson - Eastern - 170cm 67kg
7. Nate Caddy - Northern - 192cm 91kg
8. Darcy Wilson - Murray - 185cm 73kg
9. Jack Delean - Sth Adel - 181cm 73kg
10. Mitch Edwards - Peel - 207cm 90kg (Frem NGA)
11. Zane Duursma - Gippsland - 189cm 79kg
12. Koltyn Tholstrup - Subiaco - 188cm 80kg
13. Logan Evans - Norwood - 188cm 77kg
14. Harry Demattia - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
15. Nathan Philactides - Oakleigh - 181cm 78kg
16. Harvey Johnston - Sandringham - 184cm 76kg
17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw FS)
18. Ethan Read - Gold Coast A - 200cm 90kg (GCSA)
19. Ollie Murphy - Sandringham - 200cm 85kg
20. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB FS)
21. Archer Reid - Gippsland - 203cm 93kg
22. Ryley Sanders - Sandringham(Tas) - 186cm 85kg
23. Thomas Anastasopoulos - Geelong - 176cm 66kg
24. Will Lorenz - Oakleigh - 186cm 70kg
25. Ashton Moir - Glenlg - 188cm 84kg
26. Joel Freijah - GWV - 191cm 86kg
27. Riley Hardeman - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg
28. Will Brown - Sandringham - 194cm 86kg
29. Angus Hastie - Geelong - 189cm 77kg
30. Miles Enders - Sandringham - 188cm 86kg
31. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
32. Connor O'Sullivan - Murray - 198cm 92kg
33. Will Patton - Wst Adel - 192cm 79kg
34. Clay Hall - Peel - 190cm 85kg
35. Oskar Smartt - Bendigo - 179cm 85kg
36. Koen Sanchez - East Frem - 178cm 71kg
37. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
38. Sam Frangalas - Dandenong - 187cm 85kg
39. Billy Wilson - Dandenong - 182cm 71kg
40. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg

i am curious as to how Wil Dawson and Sam Van Rooyen go...

Nice work, always like readings your rankings as they are generally different from the general consensus.

Curious as to why you rate Enders & Smart?

Also, I don’t want to be that guy but you’ve got Logan Morris in there 31 & 37
 
Nice work, always like readings your rankings as they are generally different from the general consensus.

Curious as to why you rate Enders & Smart?

Also, I don’t want to be that guy but you’ve got Logan Morris in there 31 & 37
I have liked both in the CTL and contemplated putting them in my lists previously, but it was their form in the Vic Trials where they performed at a high level and I wanted to shine a light on them for that, Enders I have had in previous lists, he has been a good forward for Sandringham, great mark, good on the lead, fairly accurate, Smartt had a big game or 2 for Bendigo, then followed it up with an impressive Trial game, both impressed me in multiple games this season.

Thanx for spotting the double up, i will edit it and fix it up.
 
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Is Ryley Sanders more a First Possesion winning Inside Mid or a Balanced Mid with a good inside & outside game?

He's a balanced mid.

He's got a big engine and kicks a lot of goals and likes to get forward.

He's just an old fashion type and doesn't have any wow athletic attributes, but either did Tom Mitchell.


He just put out one of the biggest champs games of the last decade according to ranking points, I don't think he lasts anywhere near close to the second round.

I think a side like Adelaide who has a lot of other pieces, but probably not a top line young midfield, would love someone like him, who is high production and highly effective over aesthetics.
 

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