Draft Expert Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread

[Davo-27]

from the Vic Metro v Vic Country Trials i thought some players improved their position and some seemed to drop off a little, i want to edit the teams i think should play championships from the Vic Teams seeing as its an early focus

Vic Metro
B: Thomas Wenzel, Harry O'Farrell, Luke Quaynor
HB: Jayden Nguyen, Lucas Tovey, Luke Trainor

C: Taj Hotton, Josh Smillie, Lucas McInerney
R: Iliro Smit, Levi Ashcroft, Christian Moraes

HF: Jesse Dattoli, Archie Ludowyke, Jagga Smith
F: Isaac Kako, Gabriel Stumpf, Bailey McKenzie

INT: Tom Gross, Murphy Reid, Damon Hollow, Cody Anderson, Liam Callaghan, Charlie Richardson, Keighton Matofai-Forbes, Zane Cochrane, Doug Kerr, Zak Johnson, Lucca Grego, Jak Ryan (Adrian Cole?)



Vic Country
B: Lachie Jaques, Zaydyn Lockwood, Tobie Travaglia
HB: Jobe Scapin, Noah Mraz, Max Stobie

C: Cohen Paul, Cooper Hynes, Xavier Lindsay
R: Joe Pike, Finn O'Sullivan, River Stevens

HF: Harvey Langford, Jack Whitlock, Jasper Alger
F: Joe Berry, Zac McInnes , Will McLachlan

INT: Zac Harding, Oliver Warburton, Riley Onley, Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves, James Barrat, Willem Duursma, Max Donohue, Jack Ough, Ben Rongdit, Matt Whitlock, Xavier Ivisic, Tom Evans



i think Finn should be fit to play, Faull, Lalor, Day-Wicks, Penry and Unwin injured atm, they should be possibles to come in when fit

 

[roos_fanatic08]

from the Vic Metro v Vic Country Trials i thought some players improved their position and some seemed to drop off a little, i want to edit the teams i think should play championships from the Vic Teams seeing as its an early focus

Vic Metro
B: Thomas Wenzel, Harry O'Farrell, Luke Quaynor
HB: Jayden Nguyen, Lucas Tovey, Luke Trainor

C: Taj Hotton, Josh Smillie, Lucas McInerney
R: Iliro Smit, Levi Ashcroft, Christian Moraes

HF: Jesse Dattoli, Archie Ludowyke, Jagga Smith
F: Isaac Kako, Gabriel Stumpf, Bailey McKenzie

INT: Tom Gross, Murphy Reid, Damon Hollow, Cody Anderson, Liam Callaghan, Charlie Richardson, Keighton Matofai-Forbes, Zane Cochrane, Doug Kerr, Zak Johnson, Lucca Grego, Jak Ryan (Adrian Cole?)



Vic Country
B: Lachie Jaques, Zaydyn Lockwood, Tobie Travaglia
HB: Jobe Scapin, Noah Mraz, Max Stobie

C: Cohen Paul, Cooper Hynes, Xavier Lindsay
R: Joe Pike, Finn O'Sullivan, River Stevens

HF: Harvey Langford, Jack Whitlock, Jasper Alger
F: Joe Berry, Zac McInnes , Will McLachlan

INT: Zac Harding, Oliver Warburton, Riley Onley, Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves, James Barrat, Willem Duursma, Max Donohue, Jack Ough, Ben Rongdit, Matt Whitlock, Xavier Ivisic, Tom Evans



i think Finn should be fit to play, Faull, Day-Wicks, Penry and Unwin injured atm, they should be possibles to come in when fit

Surprised you have River Stevens in the midfield for VC, hasn't he been playing most of his footy across half forward for Geelong?

 

[weltschmerz]

Zaydyn

oh dear

 

[Jen2310]

Spoke to Ash Close today, he popped down Pies training this morning. Said Tadhg McCarthy has a foot injury. Will be out 5-6 weeks
Said Luke Q is similar to his brother, but a bit more timid.

Acknowledged the slow start to the year, but he thinks its a platform to get moving. Mentioned how they moved the ball a little too slowly early on. But said it was an adjustment period given the changes (new coach and all)

 

[Davo-27]

Surprised you have River Stevens in the midfield for VC, hasn't he been playing most of his footy across half forward for Geelong?

I've seen him in midfield a bit for Geelong and at the trials in general play, not sure on the cba count, he might be doing 50/50 hff/mid? also VC don't have the strongest depth in midfield and I think he is a good option in there, they could also go with Warburton or Onley or Evans, but I prefer Stevens in the midfield until Lalor comes back from inj

 

[Lingsface]

Updated top 50 - April


1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 181cm
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm
3. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm
4. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm
5. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm
6. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 192cm
7. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm
8. Jonty Faull - GWV - 194cm
9. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm
10. Josh Murphy - Murray - 190cm
11. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm
13. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 182cm
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - 182cm
15. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm
16. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 180cm
17. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 182cm
18. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 193cm
19. Noah Mraz - Dandenong - 198cm
20. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 181cm
21. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 184cm
22. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 182cm
23. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel (Port NGA)- 174cm
24. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm
25. Sam Marshall - Sandringham (Bris A) - 185cm
26. Nash King - Calder - 181cm
27. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas - 184cm
28. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm
29. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm
30. Joe Harrison - Syd A 179cm
31. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 198cm
32. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm
33. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm
34. Lucas McInerney - Northern 180cm
35. Jack Whitlock - Murray 199cm
36. Joe Berry - Murray 180cm
37. Harvey Langford - Dandenong 190cm
38. Damon Hollow - Calder 180cm
39. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong 190cm
40. Jesse Dattoli - Northern 179cm
41. Lucca Grego - Western 184cm
42. Flynn Penry - GWV 201cm
43. Matt Whitlock - Murray 197cm
44. Kade Herbert - WWT 183cm
45. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo 185cm
46. Ned Atkinson - Sturt 180cm
47. Jacob Newton - Norwood 175cm
48. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel (Port FS) 183cm
49. Malakai Champion - Subiaco 172cm
50. Austin Van Der Struyf - Claremont 178cm

No west aus in the top 30 is this their worst year of all time?

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I've seen him in midfield a bit for Geelong and at the trials in general play, not sure on the cba count, he might be doing 50/50 hff/mid? also VC don't have the strongest depth in midfield and I think he is a good option in there, they could also go with Warburton or Onley or Evans, but I prefer Stevens in the midfield until Lalor comes back from inj

Beauty! Obviously I’ve got a vested interest as to how he develops this year being a north F/S.

 

[Davo-27]

No west aus in the top 30 is this their worst year of all time?

At the u16s they were not great and 1 of their best from that team has dropped off, another is hidden away in the PSA and there have yet to be many new talents that have stepped up, but it will be clearer at the champs whether there's been improvement in the WA talent pool this year.

 

[CountryLad]

No west aus in the top 30 is this their worst year of all time?

Bo Allan isn’t on that list but he goes top 50 easily. Played the first two round at WAFL league level before injury has hit.

Not that it moves the needle a hell of a lot on the WA crop.

 

[Davo-27]

Best 3 by position and 5 mids (unlucky to miss)

KPF: Jobe Shanahan, Jonty Faull, Tyler Welsh (Jack Whitlock)
KPD: Harry O'Farrell, Luke Trainor, Zaydyn Lockwood (Noah Mraz)

Mids: Finn O'Sullivan, Levi Ashcroft, Josh Smillie, Leonado Lombard, Jagga Smith (Sid Draper)
Wings: Taj Hotton, Xavier Lindsay, Lucas Camporeale (Lucas McInerney)
Rucks: Kayle Gerryn, Flynn Penry, Zac Harding

Forws: Josh Murphy, Isaac Kako, Benny Barrett (Joe Berry + Jesse Dattoli)
Defs: Tobie Travaglia, Louis Montgomery, Austin Van Der Struyf

 

[Lach72]

Best 3 by position and 5 mids (unlucky to miss)

KPF: Jobe Shanahan, Jonty Faull, Tyler Welsh (Jack Whitlock)
KPD: Harry O'Farrell, Luke Trainor, Zaydyn Lockwood (Noah Mraz)

Mids: Finn O'Sullivan, Levi Ashcroft, Josh Smillie, Leonado Lombard, Jagga Smith (Sid Draper)
Wings: Taj Hotton, Xavier Lindsay, Lucas Camporeale (Lucas McInerney)
Rucks: Kayle Gerryn, Flynn Penry, Zac Harding

Forws: Josh Murphy, Isaac Kako, Benny Barrett (Joe Berry + Jesse Dattoli)
Defs: Tobie Travaglia, Louis Montgomery, Austin Van Der Struyf

Which of those are class small forwards Dave?

 

[Davo-27]

Which of those are class small forwards Dave?

all of the Forws section.

 

[Davo-27]

Updated top 50 - May (Early)


1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 182cm
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm
3. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 194cm
4. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm
5. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm
6. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm
7. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm
8. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm
9. Jonty Faull - GWV - 195cm
10. Josh Murphy - Murray - 190cm
11. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm
12. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm
13. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - 182cm
14. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 183cm
15. Jack Whitlock - Murray - 200cm
16. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm
17. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 181cm
18. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 183cm
19. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 194cm
20. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 186cm
21. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 185cm
22. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 190cm
23. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm
24. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm
25. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm
26. Noah Mraz - Dandenong - 198cm
27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 179cm
28. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 180cm
29. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel (Port NGA) - 174cm
30. Sam Marshall - Sandringham (Bris A) - 185cm
31. Zaydyn Lockwood - Bendigo - 198cm
32. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 199cm
33. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 190cm
34. Joe Berry - Murray - 180cm
35. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm
36. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm
37. Joe Harrison - Syd A - 179cm
38. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm
39. Matt Whitlock - Murray - 197cm
40. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 186cm
41. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel (Port FS) - 184cm
42. Malakai Champion - Subiaco - 172cm
43. Austin Van Der Struyf - Claremont - 178cm
44. Damon Hollow - Calder - 180cm
45. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas - 184cm
46. Kade Herbert - WWT - 184cm
47. Lucca Grego - Western - 184cm
48. Doug Kerr - Oakleigh - 192cm
49. Bo Allan - Peel - 191cm
50. Nash King - Calder - 181cm

more to keep an eye on...

Jak Ryan - Eastern - 176
Adrian Cole - Sandringham - 195
Lachie Jaques - Geelong - 184
Max Stobie - Gippsland - 180
River Stevens - Geelong - 176
Cohen Paul - Murray - 193
James Barratt - Bendigo - 193
Flynn Penry - GWV 201cm
Ned Atkinson - Sturt 181cm
Jacob Newton - Norwood 176cm
Chayse Martinson - Swan Dist - 180cm
Hugh Boxshall - Clare - 187cm

 

[Ctl]

Updated top 50 - May (Early)


1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 182cm
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm
3. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 194cm
4. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm
5. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm
6. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm
7. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm
8. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm
9. Jonty Faull - GWV - 195cm
10. Josh Murphy - Murray - 190cm
11. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm
12. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm
13. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - 182cm
14. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 183cm
15. Jack Whitlock - Murray - 200cm
16. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm
17. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 181cm
18. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 183cm
19. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 194cm
20. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 186cm
21. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 185cm
22. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 190cm
23. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm
24. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm
25. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm
26. Noah Mraz - Dandenong - 198cm
27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 179cm
28. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 180cm
29. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel (Port NGA) - 174cm
30. Sam Marshall - Sandringham (Bris A) - 185cm
31. Zaydyn Lockwood - Bendigo - 198cm
32. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 199cm
33. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 190cm
34. Joe Berry - Murray - 180cm
35. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm
36. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm
37. Joe Harrison - Syd A - 179cm
38. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm
39. Matt Whitlock - Murray - 197cm
40. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 186cm
41. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel (Port FS) - 184cm
42. Malakai Champion - Subiaco - 172cm
43. Austin Van Der Struyf - Claremont - 178cm
44. Damon Hollow - Calder - 180cm
45. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas - 184cm
46. Kade Herbert - WWT - 184cm
47. Lucca Grego - Western - 184cm
48. Doug Kerr - Oakleigh - 192cm
49. Bo Allan - Peel - 191cm
50. Nash King - Calder - 181cm

more to keep an eye on...

Jak Ryan - Eastern - 176
Adrian Cole - Sandringham - 195
Lachie Jaques - Geelong - 184
Max Stobie - Gippsland - 180
River Stevens - Geelong - 176
Cohen Paul - Murray - 193
James Barratt - Bendigo - 193
Flynn Penry - GWV 201cm
Ned Atkinson - Sturt 181cm
Jacob Newton - Norwood 176cm
Chayse Martinson - Swan Dist - 180cm
Hugh Boxshall - Clare - 187cm

What separates Jagga Smith and Sid Draper from Taj Hotton and Christian Moraes?

 

[Davo-27]

What separates Jagga Smith and Sid Draper from Taj Hotton and Christian Moraes?

more runs on the board, Jagga and Sid have been top tier since the u16s whereas Moraes has recently been at the level same with Taj, although if i were to pick 1 from that 4 it would be Taj Hotton who seems to have more weapons and eventually as i feel more comfortable to rise him up the rankings, could end up higher than the other 3.

Jagga Smith - has been averaging around 30 disposals for over 2 years, work rate is high, avoidance within congestion is good, decent speed, decent use of the footy, averaged 29.8 disposals last year and 29.0 this year, has struggled with lack of support and poor training at Oakleigh in pre season ect

Sid Draper - another high work rate player, decent kick of the footy, has been at a high level for awhile, i have seen less of him since he is interstate and im based in melb, he was high because he was SA's best player last champs and so deserved his high position, but on reflection his kicking skills were a bit flat and so i dropped him down the order a little

Taj Hotton is fantastic and could end up top 5 or thereabouts, had some good and bad moments last year, but this year has lifted to another level and is an exciting player, his improvement from hff in 2023 who kicked a goal per game 11.3 touches a game to winger/mid who kicks 5 goals in 3 games and averages 28.7 disposals per game is huge... and his pre season form which isnt counted was huge too, he also moves really well on the ground.

Christian Moraes - was a bit average at the u16s, but still stood out, had a big year last season for Eastern with his disposal accumulation, was averaging 26.4 touches last year, averages 23.7 this year, i think he was better last year and the stats show that, but he is still playing good footy and should go first round.

 

[anotherletdown]

Updated top 50 - May (Early)


1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 182cm
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm
3. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 194cm
4. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm
5. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm
6. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm
7. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm
8. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm
9. Jonty Faull - GWV - 195cm
10. Josh Murphy - Murray - 190cm
11. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm
12. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm
13. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - 182cm
14. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 183cm
15. Jack Whitlock - Murray - 200cm
16. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm
17. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 181cm
18. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 183cm
19. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 194cm
20. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 186cm
21. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 185cm
22. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 190cm
23. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm
24. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm
25. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm
26. Noah Mraz - Dandenong - 198cm
27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 179cm
28. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 180cm
29. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel (Port NGA) - 174cm
30. Sam Marshall - Sandringham (Bris A) - 185cm
31. Zaydyn Lockwood - Bendigo - 198cm
32. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 199cm
33. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 190cm
34. Joe Berry - Murray - 180cm
35. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm
36. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm
37. Joe Harrison - Syd A - 179cm
38. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm
39. Matt Whitlock - Murray - 197cm
40. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 186cm
41. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel (Port FS) - 184cm
42. Malakai Champion - Subiaco - 172cm
43. Austin Van Der Struyf - Claremont - 178cm
44. Damon Hollow - Calder - 180cm
45. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas - 184cm
46. Kade Herbert - WWT - 184cm
47. Lucca Grego - Western - 184cm
48. Doug Kerr - Oakleigh - 192cm
49. Bo Allan - Peel - 191cm
50. Nash King - Calder - 181cm

more to keep an eye on...

Jak Ryan - Eastern - 176
Adrian Cole - Sandringham - 195
Lachie Jaques - Geelong - 184
Max Stobie - Gippsland - 180
River Stevens - Geelong - 176
Cohen Paul - Murray - 193
James Barratt - Bendigo - 193
Flynn Penry - GWV 201cm
Ned Atkinson - Sturt 181cm
Jacob Newton - Norwood 176cm
Chayse Martinson - Swan Dist - 180cm
Hugh Boxshall - Clare - 187cm

Curious to know what's the knock on Joel Cochran?

He does a lot right from what I can see and I'd have put him ahead or equal to Harrison who is also in the academy and you have in the 30's

 

[Davo-27]

Curious to know what's the knock on Joel Cochran?

He does a lot right from what I can see and I'd have put him ahead or equal to Harrison who is also in the academy and you have in the 30's

Joel Cochrane doesn't look great as a forward and is just serviceable in defense, I don't see him as that great of a prospect tbh, he might get rookied or a late draft pick because he has size and could develop late, but I'm not as impressed with him as you seem to be.

 

[lionshine]

Davo-27 Do you know much about Edwin Nyembo? Maybe a MSD prospect? He just kicked 6 goals for the Western Jets(Albeit against NT Thunder).

 

[anotherletdown]

Joel Cochrane doesn't look great as a forward and is just serviceable in defense, I don't see him as that great of a prospect tbh, he might get rookied or a late draft pick because he has size and could develop late, but I'm not as impressed with him as you seem to be.

Thanks for the response, hopefully he shows up for the Allies. If not, happy to stick him on the rookie list to develop.

 

[year of the cat]

Might want to start to consider Harry Armstrong as a likely draftee. Has made Caulfield GS look silly this afternoon.