Draft Expert Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread

[Chaisa]

FWIW it still sounds like Lewis lives in Sydney and the age gap between the two is fairly small so I don't think it's his kid. Not saying it's definitely not but haven't heard anything about him as a future F/S.

 

[Smythe]

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FWIW it still sounds like Lewis lives in Sydney and the age gap between the two is fairly small so I don't think it's his kid. Not saying it's definitely not but haven't heard anything about him as a future F/S.

It’s not his son, I don’t think he has kids. It’s maybe a relative.

 

[Alite]

so i thought i would start my thread for 2024 based on u16's championships, state rep games and u18's leagues and who i think has the ability to perform at the state rep levels and potentially AFL level, i will name a top 90 who i am keen to see more of next year and im sure i will find another dozen or so next year in the early rounds or through-out the year.


Updated Ranking
1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh/Vic Country 181cm - cousin of Sam Walsh, great over head, good user of the footy, smooth mover in traffic
2. Sid Draper - Sth Adel 180cm - one of the better mids for SA at the u18s champs, good work rate and good movement through the midfield
3. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham(Bris FS) 179cm - small forward who can also accumulate in the midfield, has slowly moved up the rankings with quality performances
4. Josh Smillie - Eastern 194cm - tall midfielder type, who can also play hbf well, good vision and positioning
5. Tyler Welsh - WWT 191cm(Adle FS) - shortish KPF, great work rate and speed for a KPF, movement is fantastic and a good goal kicker
6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh 181cm - accumulator midfielder, good goal kicker, good agility and movement
7. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A 178cm - a fantastic midfielder who took a few big steps in the CTL and VFL, rising up the draft boards
8. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 182cm - dominant quality mid at u16s, was solid this year at the u18s and was MVP in the sanfl u18s this year
9. Nash King - Calder 181cm - tough quality midfielder, was ok at u16s but his CTL form and VM form this year confirmed his highish rating going into 2024
10. Joe Harrison - Syd A 187cm - only seen a small sample, but he looks quality, had a big game for NSW
11. Tom Gross - Oakleigh 180cm - tough contested midfielder, goes in without fear which is a good trait, a bit erratic
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo 187cm - watching bendigo he would steal the show with his intercepting and general quality play off hbf/hff
13. Caleb Nancarrow - GCS A/Oak 191cm - another shortish KPP, but has hops in his legs, hangs in the air like M.Jordan lol very athletic
14. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo/NSW 192cm - another shortish KPP, good contested mark, very impressive for Bendigo/NSW
15. Christian Moraes - Eastern 182cm (Haw NGA) - was decent at the u16s champs, but his year this year was top knotch for VM and during the finals
16. Harry O'Farrell - Calder 196cm - a KPD that has improved and caught my eye in a couple of rep games, also has the height to possibly go high in the draft
17. Jonty Faull - GWV 194cm - a KPF who improved dramatically this year and again could rise in rankings based on late season form
18. Jesse Dattoli - Northern 178cm - a small forward who had a strong year, looked good for VM as well
19. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth 198cm - a ruck who was very good in most aspects for WA at the u16s, in a strong WA Team and looking good in the wafl colts after a growth spurt
20. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel 174cm - very similar player to Ky Pickett, had a fantastic 2022, but not so great 2023, hoping he can find his form and confidence
21. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg 182cm (Carl FS) - was top tier winger/mid at the u16s, dropped off a little this year in sanfl u18s form
22. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg 184cm (Carl FS) - moved from hbf to midfield this year and boosted his value, so i have put them together in the rankings
23. Jayden Nguyen - Calder 177cm (Ess NGA) - speedy clever winger who can accumulate, was good at the u16s and this year had a few big games
24. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 186cm - really impressed with calmness and quality for VM this year, could be a first rounder if he keeps fit
25. Sam Marshall - Bris A/Sand 185cm - accumulator mid, stood out for Brisbane in their CTL games, had a good game for QLD as well
26. Zak Johnson - Northern 185cm - quality kick of the footy, kicking stood out at the u16s, has been good this year in the CTL and rep at stages too
27. Kade Herbert - WWT 183cm - had a good u18s series which i think increased his value, some have him higher, but i have him here for now
28. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist 182cm - one of the better WA players, good mid and continued form in 2023
29. Isaac Kako - Calder 175cm (Ess NGA) - quality small forward, good on a lead and crumbing goals, not sure on defensive game?
30. Sam Lalor - GWV 187cm - strong midfielder, played well in CTL and for VC
31. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland 182cm - good midfielder from Gipps, good u16s form and a good year in the CTL this year
32. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo 185cm - has been a bit up and down this year, had a run for VC at the u18s
33. Xavier Ivisic - Geelong 180cm - quality winger form the u16s and has looked good at times in the u18s this season
34. Bo Allan - Peel 188cm - solid 3rd tall def, one of WA's best performing players as an underager
35. Murphy Reid - Sand 181cm - had a few quality moments in the u18s champs and was a solid contributor for sandy this year
36. Ned Atkinson - Sturt 180cm - tough midfielder, puts his body on the line, quality player in the u16s champs winning team
37. Jacob Newton - Norwood 175cm - another quality player in the u16s champs winning team, quality mid
38. Ricky Mentha - NT/Gippsland 179cm - ive only seen a small sample, but he looked good for Gippsland and im curious how he does at rep level
39. Louie Montgomery - Nth Adel 183cm (Port FS) - running halfback who can go forward and kick long goals, decent in mid as well
40. Cooper Hynes - Dand 188cm - mid - tough mid with good disposal, has a bit of run in the legs but could improve in that area

i will just name the next 50

41. Jack Whitlock - Murr 199cm - kpf/ruck
42. Flynn Penry - GWV 200cm - ruck
43. Tom Evans - Bendigo 180cm - mid
44. Deian Roberts - Peel 185cm - mid
45. Rhys Unwin - GWV 177cm - sml forw
46. Harvey Langford - Dand 188cm - mid
47. Luke Trainor - Sand 193cm - KPD
48. Lucas McInerney - North 180cm - hbf
49. Chayse Martinson - Swan Dist 180cm - mid
50. Charlie Hewitt - Bris A 198cm - ruck/KPP
51. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tas 177cm - mid
52. Hugh Boxshall - Clare 187cm - def
53. Josaia Delana - GWS A 174cm - mid/sml forw
54. Jack Ough - GWV 191cm - def
55. Malakai Champion - Subi 170cm - sml forw
56. Oliver Warburton - Murr 184cm - mid
57. Thomas Legudi - Calder 177cm - hbf
58. Tadgh McCarthy - Oak 191cm - def
59. Zai Millane - GCS A 188cm - def (nephew of coll millane)
60. Austin Van Der Struyf - Clare 179cm - hbf/wing


Lucca Grego - Western 183cm
Koopa Walsh - Subi 193cm
Lucas Ravenhill - Clare 199cm
Trent Hiscock - Wst Perth 190cm
Noah Mraz - Dand 197cm
Tom Luck - WWT 195cm
Josh Murphy - GWS A 190cm
Joel Cochran - Syd A 194cm (have not seen enough to rate, but did look good in the u17s futures)
Clay Shadforth - NT/Sth Adel 180cm
Rome Burgoyne - WWT 186cm
Charlie Richardson - Sand 190cm
Oliver Withers - GWS A 183cm
Liam Farrar - Northern 188cm
Harrison Oliver - Sand 181cm
Noah Yze - Sand 189cm
Wil Thomas - Sturt 178cm
Harry Jones - Swan Dist 181cm
Anthony Hansen - Swan Dist 172cm
Waylon Davey-Motlop - NT 184cm
Max Stobie - Gipps 181cm
Charlie Nicholls - Central Dist 196cm
Tom Gillet - Bris A 199cm
Taj Hotton - Sand 180cm
Oliver Hannaford - GWV 180cm
Will McCarthy - Murr 188cm
Harry Dodd - WWT 183cm
Tom Tasker - Nth Adel 190cm
Zach Travers - Sand
Angus Morrison - Geel
Sam Fanning -
Charlie West -
Jaxon Douglas - Clare 187cm

An excellent list Davo. Much appreciated.

Personally I don’t see a standout player for the 2024’s draft. Finn O’S is a neat player with upside but IMO not on the level of the super 6 from 2023. Smille has caught my eye but at his relative size, he should stand out.

Christian Moraes has the awareness and skill that could make him an excellent AFL player... and I think will come into top 5 calculations… but the AFL will not let him, as a Hawks NGA player, be available to us.

It is already past time to even out the draft. The Suns are now stacked with talent and jettisoning high quality players for chump change. They have their premiership coach and so it is time to set the boat free to see if it can float. That team is now the Rolls Royce of the comp. They have everything needed to win a premiership.

It is time to bring in pick purchasing.

Minimise the F/S or NGA or Academy matching ability per round to 1 Player. No more 20% discounts. No more Ben McKay’s being worth pick 3 Compo. That is dumb and everyone with an ounce of sense that sees Ben as the highest player in the comp would agree: the AFL’s system has made this absurdity. (Aside : No dispersions on Ben… good on him).

The location of the players that make up the All Australian U16 team is not just a wake up call… it is a barking mad yell from 14 other teams saying, F@rking Fix this now or our fans will become disillusioned with the draft process and the AFL as a fair and reasonable competition will become something not worth caring about.

Be clear, everyone on BigFooty will care. It is what we do. But while the AFL grow their base towards the North with unfair policies, kids in the heartland will turn to other sports.

The time for parity is now.

 

[briztoon]

An excellent list Davo. Much appreciated.

Personally I don’t see a standout player for the 2024’s draft. Finn O’S is a neat player with upside but IMO not on the level of the super 6 from 2023. Smille has caught my eye but at his relative size, he should stand out.

Christian Moraes has the awareness and skill that could make him an excellent AFL player... and I think will come into top 5 calculations… but the AFL will not let him, as a Hawks NGA player, be available to us.

It is already past time to even out the draft. The Suns are now stacked with talent and jettisoning high quality players for chump change. They have their premiership coach and so it is time to set the boat free to see if it can float. That team is now the Rolls Royce of the comp. They have everything needed to win a premiership.

It is time to bring in pick purchasing.

Minimise the F/S or NGA or Academy matching ability per round to 1 Player. No more 20% discounts. No more Ben McKay’s being worth pick 3 Compo. That is dumb and everyone with an ounce of sense that sees Ben as the highest player in the comp would agree: the AFL’s system has made this absurdity. (Aside : No dispersions on Ben… good on him).

The location of the players that make up the All Australian U16 team is not just a wake up call… it is a barking mad yell from 14 other teams saying, F@rking Fix this now or our fans will become disillusioned with the draft process and the AFL as a fair and reasonable competition will become something not worth caring about.

Be clear, everyone on BigFooty will care. It is what we do. But while the AFL grow their base towards the North with unfair policies, kids in the heartland will turn to other sports.

The time for parity is now.

By parity, you mean return of the VFL.

 

[Davo-27]

An excellent list Davo. Much appreciated.

Personally I don’t see a standout player for the 2024’s draft. Finn O’S is a neat player with upside but IMO not on the level of the super 6 from 2023. Smille has caught my eye but at his relative size, he should stand out.

Christian Moraes has the awareness and skill that could make him an excellent AFL player... and I think will come into top 5 calculations… but the AFL will not let him, as a Hawks NGA player, be available to us.

It is already past time to even out the draft. The Suns are now stacked with talent and jettisoning high quality players for chump change. They have their premiership coach and so it is time to set the boat free to see if it can float. That team is now the Rolls Royce of the comp. They have everything needed to win a premiership.

It is time to bring in pick purchasing.

Minimise the F/S or NGA or Academy matching ability per round to 1 Player. No more 20% discounts. No more Ben McKay’s being worth pick 3 Compo. That is dumb and everyone with an ounce of sense that sees Ben as the highest player in the comp would agree: the AFL’s system has made this absurdity. (Aside : No dispersions on Ben… good on him).

The location of the players that make up the All Australian U16 team is not just a wake up call… it is a barking mad yell from 14 other teams saying, F@rking Fix this now or our fans will become disillusioned with the draft process and the AFL as a fair and reasonable competition will become something not worth caring about.

Be clear, everyone on BigFooty will care. It is what we do. But while the AFL grow their base towards the North with unfair policies, kids in the heartland will turn to other sports.

The time for parity is now.

That u16 AA team with 6 Suns in it was flawed imo, I saw all of division 1 and about half of the division 2 games, the difference in quality of teams between Vic M, Vic C, WA and SA and division 2 teams of Bris, GCS, GWS, Syd, Tas, NT were very obvious, I would say that the 2 qld teams especially Brisbane who won div 2, looked like they could compete with division 1 teams, which confirms what we've seen of late, the growth of AFL within Qld that has been happening and is continuing to provide dividends to the Qld teams, I think there was some favouritism shown to div 2 after the Allies won the u18s champs and so they over represented div 2 teams In the AA team imo, I have made what I think is a more accurate AA team from the u16s in the 3rd post of this thread.

We will miss out on Christian Moraes.

The AFL gave up on equalisation years ago, it's all about TV Deals, growing new audiences, keeping new expansions growing at any cost for TV Deals, I mean they spent 30 years propping up Sydney Swans before they could turn a profit, expect the same for new expansions, the Academy is 1 way they can guarantee that players stay at these clubs, we all saw the mass exodus at Brisbane 5-10 years ago, GCS struggle to retain anyone of value and they also have the history of worst trades within the AFL that doesn't help their cause and GWS continually cycle in draft picks with the amount that leave that club, so these teams do need help keeping talent, success can do this and having Academies will help with their success, as well as locals more likely having a desire to stay, is it optimal? No, but it is what it is, now if the TV Deals no longer gave such incentives for a NSW/QLD audience as it does now, I would think the AFL would change their strategy somewhat, but they need it to work for the TV Deals which are the AFLs main source of income I believe?

 

[Davo-27]

Pick 1 candidates

Finn O'Sullivan - has a good height and build, seems to have good endurance and a good kick, likes to kick more than handball, has kicked some good goals on an angle, strong overhead for a mid, was a standout in a weak Vic Country team at the u16s champs, looks very likely to be an AFL level mid

Leonardo Lombard - quick, good disposal, already looks like an AFL player, very sharp movement and decision making, depending on improvement or continued top form he is a chance to push for a high pick.

Tyler Welsh - unfortunately his height might hold him back, he is an awkward 191cm, his game in general is strong like a Darcy Fogarty

32

Darcy Fogarty

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.0

4star

, but do Adelaide need 2 Darcy Fogartys? Strong, quick and clever Key Forward who dominated at the u16s champs and dominated in the u18s champs as an underager against bigger bodies, he is a quality footballer, it just depends on how you measure his potential height and what role he could play as to his value overall.

Levi Ashcroft - he has impressed in 2 roles, as a small forward with deadly accuracy and an ability to find space to mark, then his 2nd role as an accumulator midfielder where he averages a lot of disposals, he won a heap of footy for Vic Metro and Sandy, he has been very consistent over the last year and a half and with his dual roles has added to his value imo, which has him likely top 5 from my pov.

Sid Draper - I have this guy rated highly for his accumulation and running power through the midfield, im concerned by his disposal a little, there's a couple of question marks on his all round game, but I do think he will go highly on what I have seen so far.

Jagga Smith - highly agile, good kick at goal, loves a handball and a 1-2, accumulator mid, good work rate, had a good season for Oakleigh and had a couple of good games for Vic Metro, he seems to be a leader of sorts, wanting things his way, reminds me of Tom Mitchell's type of personality when he was playing at the Hawks.

Josh Smillie - 194cm midfielder who also plays as a counter attacking defender, wins a lot of poss, clever disposal, small concerns on his athletic ability, but if he has good combine results, he should go high depending on form, has dominated at the u16s champs and was strong as an underager in the u18s champs

Joe Harrison - Syd A player, as a midfielder he seems very strong, I've only seen a small sample, so I need more viewings to be confident, but he looks to be a very good candidate for a high position in the draft, strong physically, good in and under player and contested player, also has good run in his legs, a player that I want to see more of.



KPP that could go 1st round?

Caleb Nancarrow - GCS KPF/Ruck 191cm (athletic jump)
Jonty Faull - GWV KPF 194cm
Jobe Shanahan - Bend KPF 192cm
Harry O'Farrell - Cald KPD 196cm
Jack Whitlock - Murr KPF/Ruck 199cm
Kayle Gerryn - W Perth Ruck 198cm
Flynn Penry - GWV Ruck 200cm
Joel Cochran - Syd A KPD/KPF 194cm

 

[brenndog]

Early top 40 for 2025 draft based on u16s and CTL form

1. Dyson Sharp 188cm Central Dist
2. Oliver Greeves 190cm Eastern
3. Blake Kelly 180cm Swan Dist
4. Archie Ludowyke 193cm Sandringham (kpf with hops)
5. Lachlan Dovaston 175cm Eastern
6. Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier 182cm Nth Adel
7. Louis Emmett 198cm Oakleigh (ruck/forw)
8. Marcus Cassidy 186cm Est Perth
9. Jack Dalton 176cm Sandringham
10. Noah Roberts-Thompson 180cm Sturt (related To LRT?)
11. Cooper Duff-Tytler 198cm VM (kpd)
12. Tairon Ah-Mu 199cm Dandenong (ruck)
13. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves 185cm Dandenong
14. Harry Morphet 175cm Geelong ...(broke his leg at champs)
15. Basil Hart 183cm Peel (Frem NGA?)
16. Riley Onley 194cm Murray (mobile tall)
17. Xavier Bamert 184cm Sandringham
18. Aidan Schubert 194cm Central Dist (kpf)
19. Jadd Hill 176cm Perth
20. Dylan Patterson 183cm GCS A
21. Judd Marcello 189cm Wst Perth
22. Giuseppe Posterino 175cm Geelong
23. Jamie Gilchrist 185cm Eastern
24. Zeke Uwland 176cm GCS A
25. Raphael Geesu 175cm Bris A
26. Toby Whan 180cm Sth Fremantle
27. Jobe Scapin 186cm Gippsland
28. Mitchell Moate 180cm Northern
29. Jim Kelly 178cm Norwood
30. Zach O'Keefe 176cm Gippsland
31. Jack Harrison 183cm Bris A
32. Willem Duursma 189cm Gipps
33. Taj Longmuir 179cm Sth Frem
34. Sam Grij 178cm Oakleigh
35. Darcy Montgomery 180cm Subiaco
36. Thomas McGuane 176cm Western (FS Coll)
37. Louis Kellaway 182cm Sturt (FS Rich)
38. Jevan Phillipou 180cm WWT
39. Will York 172cm Peel
40. Daniel Annabel 183cm Bris A

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I wanted to do an AA Team for the u16s

B: Jadd Hill (WA), Cooper Duff-Tytler (VM), Jim Kelly (SA)
HB: Zeke Uwland (GCS), Riley Onley (VC), Xavier Bamert (VM)
C: Lachlan Dovaston (VM), Blake Kelly (WA), Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier (SA)
HF: Jack Harrison (Bris), Louis Emmett (VM), Giuseppe Posterino (VC)
F: Basil Hart (WA), Archie Ludowyke (VM), Dylan Patterson (GCS)
R: Kayle Gerryn (WA), Dyson Sharp (SA), Oliver Greeves (VM)

INT: Tairon Ah-Mu (VC), Jack Dalton (VM), Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves (VC), Noah Roberts-Thompson (SA)
Marcus Cassidy (WA), Raphael Geesu (Bris), Charlie Hewitt (Bris), Jobe Scapin (VC), Toby Whan (WA).

VM - 7 (winners div 1)
WA - 6 (runners up div 1)
SA - 4
VC - 5
Bris - 3 (winners div 2)
GCS - 2 (runners up div 2)


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2026 early names

Matthew Owen - Bris A
Doug Cochrane - SA

Dyson Sharp then daylight for pick 1 2025? Great talent he looks a jet.

 

[brenndog]

An excellent list Davo. Much appreciated.

Personally I don’t see a standout player for the 2024’s draft. Finn O’S is a neat player with upside but IMO not on the level of the super 6 from 2023. Smille has caught my eye but at his relative size, he should stand out.

Christian Moraes has the awareness and skill that could make him an excellent AFL player... and I think will come into top 5 calculations… but the AFL will not let him, as a Hawks NGA player, be available to us.

It is already past time to even out the draft. The Suns are now stacked with talent and jettisoning high quality players for chump change. They have their premiership coach and so it is time to set the boat free to see if it can float. That team is now the Rolls Royce of the comp. They have everything needed to win a premiership.

It is time to bring in pick purchasing.

Minimise the F/S or NGA or Academy matching ability per round to 1 Player. No more 20% discounts. No more Ben McKay’s being worth pick 3 Compo. That is dumb and everyone with an ounce of sense that sees Ben as the highest player in the comp would agree: the AFL’s system has made this absurdity. (Aside : No dispersions on Ben… good on him).

The location of the players that make up the All Australian U16 team is not just a wake up call… it is a barking mad yell from 14 other teams saying, F@rking Fix this now or our fans will become disillusioned with the draft process and the AFL as a fair and reasonable competition will become something not worth caring about.

Be clear, everyone on BigFooty will care. It is what we do. But while the AFL grow their base towards the North with unfair policies, kids in the heartland will turn to other sports.

The time for parity is now.

Tend to agree the top 6 or 7 are basically as good as each other with O'Sullivan and Draper being my early pick 1 faves. Ashcroft in an open draft would be interesting as he is probably going to be the best player as he's meant to be slightly better than Will or at least pretty much the same player and Will was on track to win the rising star before the ACL.

Also mids from about 10 to 30 are all very even looks a quality midfielders draft. Lots of key defenders too.

 

[brenndog]

I'm unaware of him, so I looked him up and he played 2 games in the CTL last year and is 194cm, if he catches my eye, then I will mention him, if not I probably won't?

He's a chance Davo hopefully he makes it great name for word play old Bucky Bucktooth Bucknaked Joe Buck

 

[Davo-27]

Dyson Sharp then daylight for pick 1 2025? Great talent he looks a jet.

Greeves is as good as Sharp, very similar players, I was tempted to put him as pick 1, so not so clear cut as is being made out by some.

 

[Sleezy]

so i thought i would start my thread for 2024 based on u16's championships, state rep games and u18's leagues and who i think has the ability to perform at the state rep levels and potentially AFL level, i will name a top 90 who i am keen to see more of next year and im sure i will find another dozen or so next year in the early rounds or through-out the year.


Updated Ranking
1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh/Vic Country 181cm - cousin of Sam Walsh, great over head, good user of the footy, smooth mover in traffic
2. Sid Draper - Sth Adel 180cm - one of the better mids for SA at the u18s champs, good work rate and good movement through the midfield
3. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham(Bris FS) 179cm - small forward who can also accumulate in the midfield, has slowly moved up the rankings with quality performances
4. Josh Smillie - Eastern 194cm - tall midfielder type, who can also play hbf well, good vision and positioning
5. Tyler Welsh - WWT 191cm(Adle FS) - shortish KPF, great work rate and speed for a KPF, movement is fantastic and a good goal kicker
6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh 181cm - accumulator midfielder, good goal kicker, good agility and movement
7. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A 178cm - a fantastic midfielder who took a few big steps in the CTL and VFL, rising up the draft boards
8. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 182cm - dominant quality mid at u16s, was solid this year at the u18s and was MVP in the sanfl u18s this year
9. Nash King - Calder 181cm - tough quality midfielder, was ok at u16s but his CTL form and VM form this year confirmed his highish rating going into 2024
10. Joe Harrison - Syd A 187cm - only seen a small sample, but he looks quality, had a big game for NSW
11. Tom Gross - Oakleigh 180cm - tough contested midfielder, goes in without fear which is a good trait, a bit erratic
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo 187cm - watching bendigo he would steal the show with his intercepting and general quality play off hbf/hff
13. Caleb Nancarrow - GCS A/Oak 191cm - another shortish KPP, but has hops in his legs, hangs in the air like M.Jordan lol very athletic
14. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo/NSW 192cm - another shortish KPP, good contested mark, very impressive for Bendigo/NSW
15. Christian Moraes - Eastern 182cm (Haw NGA) - was decent at the u16s champs, but his year this year was top knotch for VM and during the finals
16. Harry O'Farrell - Calder 196cm - a KPD that has improved and caught my eye in a couple of rep games, also has the height to possibly go high in the draft
17. Jonty Faull - GWV 194cm - a KPF who improved dramatically this year and again could rise in rankings based on late season form
18. Jesse Dattoli - Northern 178cm - a small forward who had a strong year, looked good for VM as well
19. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth 198cm - a ruck who was very good in most aspects for WA at the u16s, in a strong WA Team and looking good in the wafl colts after a growth spurt
20. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel 174cm - very similar player to Ky Pickett, had a fantastic 2022, but not so great 2023, hoping he can find his form and confidence
21. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg 182cm (Carl FS) - was top tier winger/mid at the u16s, dropped off a little this year in sanfl u18s form
22. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg 184cm (Carl FS) - moved from hbf to midfield this year and boosted his value, so i have put them together in the rankings
23. Jayden Nguyen - Calder 177cm (Ess NGA) - speedy clever winger who can accumulate, was good at the u16s and this year had a few big games
24. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 186cm - really impressed with calmness and quality for VM this year, could be a first rounder if he keeps fit
25. Sam Marshall - Bris A/Sand 185cm - accumulator mid, stood out for Brisbane in their CTL games, had a good game for QLD as well
26. Zak Johnson - Northern 185cm - quality kick of the footy, kicking stood out at the u16s, has been good this year in the CTL and rep at stages too
27. Kade Herbert - WWT 183cm - had a good u18s series which i think increased his value, some have him higher, but i have him here for now
28. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist 182cm - one of the better WA players, good mid and continued form in 2023
29. Isaac Kako - Calder 175cm (Ess NGA) - quality small forward, good on a lead and crumbing goals, not sure on defensive game?
30. Sam Lalor - GWV 187cm - strong midfielder, played well in CTL and for VC
31. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland 182cm - good midfielder from Gipps, good u16s form and a good year in the CTL this year
32. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo 185cm - has been a bit up and down this year, had a run for VC at the u18s
33. Xavier Ivisic - Geelong 180cm - quality winger form the u16s and has looked good at times in the u18s this season
34. Bo Allan - Peel 188cm - solid 3rd tall def, one of WA's best performing players as an underager
35. Murphy Reid - Sand 181cm - had a few quality moments in the u18s champs and was a solid contributor for sandy this year
36. Ned Atkinson - Sturt 180cm - tough midfielder, puts his body on the line, quality player in the u16s champs winning team
37. Jacob Newton - Norwood 175cm - another quality player in the u16s champs winning team, quality mid
38. Ricky Mentha - NT/Gippsland 179cm - ive only seen a small sample, but he looked good for Gippsland and im curious how he does at rep level
39. Louie Montgomery - Nth Adel 183cm (Port FS) - running halfback who can go forward and kick long goals, decent in mid as well
40. Cooper Hynes - Dand 188cm - mid - tough mid with good disposal, has a bit of run in the legs but could improve in that area

i will just name the next 50

41. Jack Whitlock - Murr 199cm - kpf/ruck
42. Flynn Penry - GWV 200cm - ruck
43. Tom Evans - Bendigo 180cm - mid
44. Deian Roberts - Peel 185cm - mid
45. Rhys Unwin - GWV 177cm - sml forw
46. Harvey Langford - Dand 188cm - mid
47. Luke Trainor - Sand 193cm - KPD
48. Lucas McInerney - North 180cm - hbf
49. Chayse Martinson - Swan Dist 180cm - mid
50. Charlie Hewitt - Bris A 198cm - ruck/KPP
51. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tas 177cm - mid
52. Hugh Boxshall - Clare 187cm - def
53. Josaia Delana - GWS A 174cm - mid/sml forw
54. Jack Ough - GWV 191cm - def
55. Malakai Champion - Subi 170cm - sml forw
56. Oliver Warburton - Murr 184cm - mid
57. Thomas Legudi - Calder 177cm - hbf
58. Tadgh McCarthy - Oak 191cm - def
59. Zai Millane - GCS A 188cm - def (nephew of coll millane)
60. Austin Van Der Struyf - Clare 179cm - hbf/wing


Lucca Grego - Western 183cm
Koopa Walsh - Subi 193cm
Lucas Ravenhill - Clare 199cm
Trent Hiscock - Wst Perth 190cm
Noah Mraz - Dand 197cm
Tom Luck - WWT 195cm
Josh Murphy - GWS A 190cm
Joel Cochran - Syd A 194cm (have not seen enough to rate, but did look good in the u17s futures)
Clay Shadforth - NT/Sth Adel 180cm
Rome Burgoyne - WWT 186cm
Charlie Richardson - Sand 190cm
Oliver Withers - GWS A 183cm
Liam Farrar - Northern 188cm
Harrison Oliver - Sand 181cm
Noah Yze - Sand 189cm
Wil Thomas - Sturt 178cm
Harry Jones - Swan Dist 181cm
Anthony Hansen - Swan Dist 172cm
Waylon Davey-Motlop - NT 184cm
Max Stobie - Gipps 181cm
Charlie Nicholls - Central Dist 196cm
Tom Gillet - Bris A 199cm
Taj Hotton - Sand 180cm
Oliver Hannaford - GWV 180cm
Will McCarthy - Murr 188cm
Harry Dodd - WWT 183cm
Tom Tasker - Nth Adel 190cm
Zach Travers - Sand
Angus Morrison - Geel
Sam Fanning -
Charlie West -
Jaxon Douglas - Clare 187cm

Hay Davo. As far as we know, Benny Barrett is a port NGA prospect. He’s currently training with the team.

 

[Davo-27]

Finn O'Sullivan is the early favourite for pick 1 from my PoV, he is going to Xavier College in Melbourne so will probably play for Oakleigh or Sandringham in the NAB League, we'll see how this ages?

This was a week before he was named MVP in the u16s championships, in a terrible Vic Country team, he should go in the first couple of picks and starts as pick 1 favourite heading into next year.

 

[Davo-27]

my top 30 from the division 1 sides (u16's 2024 draft)

VM - Josh Smillie, Jagga Smith, Levi Ashcroft, Lucas McInerney, Luke Wilson, Ty Kitchell, Zak Johnson, Isaac Kako (8)
VC - Finn O'Sullivan, Sam Lalor, Xavier Lindsay, Xavier Ivisic, Tobie Travaglia (5)
WA - Otis Harvey, Deian Roberts, Chayse Martinson, Hugh Boxshall, Malakai Champion, Harry Jones (6)
SA - Lucas Camporeale, Phoenix Hargrave, Benny Barrett, Sid Draper, Tyler Welsh, Jacob Newton, Ned Atkinson, Louie Montgomery (8)

underager - Dyson Sharp(SA)
overagers - Will McCabe(SA), Xavier Walsh(WA)

This was a top 30 I made at the time, 18 months ago, u16s championships top 30, not much has changed imo

 

[Thunderstruck]

Dyson Sharp then daylight for pick 1 2025? Great talent he looks a jet.

I'm as hard for Sharp as anyone but it's def a close call with Greeves. Sharp I think has more strength and power and big game sense but Greeves is probably slightly quicker and cleaner overall

 

[RedmanWasHere]

I'm as hard for Sharp as anyone but it's def a close call with Greeves. Sharp I think has more strength and power and big game sense but Greeves is probably slightly quicker and cleaner overall

You were quick to sing the praises of Sharp last year.

There's surely a 2026 prospect you like the most of all from SA.

 

[Thunderstruck]

You were quick to sing the praises of Sharp last year.

There's surely a 2026 prospect you like the most of all from SA.

I've been big on him since he was barely 14 and that doesn't change. He'll be one of the best SA prospects in the last 20 years at least. I know of other ppl with even bigger calls on him (as in best ever but I'll stop well short of there)

2026 I've mentioned but Sharpy's teamate Dougy Cochrane goes alright. He's as versatile as you get, I think he's the first player I've seen play almost every position on the ground over the course of a season, bar maybe full back. Skinny as a rake but boy he can play.

 

[bobs head soup]

I'm as hard for Sharp as anyone but it's def a close call with Greeves. Sharp I think has more strength and power and big game sense but Greeves is probably slightly quicker and cleaner overall

Being hard for anything Sharp is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Davo-27]

I think since then Kade Herbert has gone ahead of a lot of the SA guys mentioned there Davo.

We will see, some of those guys didn't get the chance to showcase their skills in 2023.

But in saying that Herbert and Moraes with a handful of others have been big improvers this year.

 

[Yoda_]

Another year with influential academy and father/son selections Davo-27 ?

15/60 you named in the OP are linked with clubs (obviously not all will go, Essendon have 2 NGA linked inside 40 for example)

6/15 are academy or father/son linked players.. when will it end ??11?!?11?!

 

[Davo-27]

Another year with influential academy and father/son selections Davo-27 ?

15/60 you named in the OP are linked with clubs (obviously not all will go, Essendon have 2 NGA linked inside 40 for example)

6/15 are academy or father/son linked players.. when will it end ??11?!?11?!

I think this has been the norm for awhile now and will likely continue, unless an academy and fs overhaul happens.

 

[briztoon]

Another year with influential academy and father/son selections Davo-27 ?

15/60 you named in the OP are linked with clubs (obviously not all will go, Essendon have 2 NGA linked inside 40 for example)

6/15 are academy or father/son linked players.. when will it end ??11?!?11?!

When the AFL cans father sons and NGA academies.

It's either a fully uncompromised draft, or teams live with the compromised nature of the draft for the "good of the game".

I expect we'll see quite a few Lions and GC academy player end up at other clubs from the 2025 draft, as both clubs are likely to make finals and will be unable to match on all their academy kids.

 

[mpal6]

Another year with influential academy and father/son selections Davo-27 ?

15/60 you named in the OP are linked with clubs (obviously not all will go, Essendon have 2 NGA linked inside 40 for example)

6/15 are academy or father/son linked players.. when will it end ??11?!?11?!

AFL can cancel father/son, NGA and Academies in 2024 or 2025 and be done with it. Put a 5 year freeze for all categories and see what happens in the open draft.

We'll end up with Levi Ashcroft playing for North Melbourne, a Hodge playing for Fremantle or say a Logan Daniher (Essendon father son) playing for West Coast etc.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

AFL can cancel father/son, NGA and Academies in 2024 or 2025 and be done with it. Put a 5 year freeze for all categories and see what happens in the open draft.

We'll end up with Levi Ashcroft playing for North Melbourne, a Hodge playing for Fremantle or say a Logan Daniher (Essendon father son) playing for West Coast etc.

Father/son should absolutely stay. It's the academy system that needs amendment.

 

[mpal6]

Father/son should absolutely stay. It's the academy system that needs amendment.

Why should it stay? What's the benefit in letting one club get permanent rights to a family line?

For example - Hodge has 4 boys. It's BS Hawks have first dibs on all 4 of them without needing to put any work on any of them. Don't give me the "oh its the romance and sentiment of playing for father's club" crap as usual. Father did it as a job, he was good at it so he got to do it for 100+ games for multiple years. No other job field out there is giving a headstart or preferential selection for a son because the father was an excellent multi-year employee in their company.

It's not an even mechanism for all club to benefit so it needs to go. If Academy and NGA are going, Father Son should absolutely go. Look at the history of where it came from, it was a made up rule to get Ron Barrasi to Melbourne and then it's become a fixture now where some clubs are getting solid returns while others haven't seen anything for years.

Lions got Ashcroft and Fletcher now and in spite of that, I'd gladly vote for that rule to be abolished.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Why should it stay? What's the benefit in letting one club get permanent rights to a family line?

For example - Hodge has 4 boys. It's BS Hawks have first dibs on all 4 of them without needing to put any work on any of them. Don't give me the "oh its the romance and sentiment of playing for father's club" crap as usual. Father did it as a job, he was good at it so he got to do it for 100+ games for multiple years. No other job field out there is giving a headstart or preferential selection for a son because the father was an excellent multi-year employee in their company.

It's not an even mechanism for all club to benefit so it needs to go. If Academy and NGA are going, Father Son should absolutely go. Look at the history of where it came from, it was a made up rule to get Ron Barrasi to Melbourne and then it's become a fixture now where some clubs are getting solid returns while others haven't seen anything for years.

Lions got Ashcroft and Fletcher now and in spite of that, I'd gladly vote for that rule to be abolished.

Why shouldn't they? He was a Hawthorn great.

Father/son is a long standing rule that now benefits 16 clubs. Academies benefit 4 clubs.

The only clubs that should have academy access are GWS and Gold Coast. And on a lesser scale Fremantle.

It's an absolute rort that Brisbane and Sydney receive the best of both worlds.

So in effect you're saying that the past players of some clubs are as sterile as the minds that recruited them.