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Is that the smallest top 5 ever ?
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Is that the smallest top 5 ever ?
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IMO Smille won't get past us - that will put him in the top 3.
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this is just the start of the season, its a projection of where i think they rank based on previous seasons, but its their draft year that really matters, pressure can make diamonds or reduce them to coal.
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top 3 in the open draft? then he raises 1 spot...
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Murray v Tasmania (100-73) *=2025 draft
Murray
Jack Whitlock 11 - 4 goals
*Riley Onley 9
Joe Berry 9 - 4 goals
Cohen Paul 7
Josh Murphy 6 - 4 goals
Ashton McPherson 6
*Ryder Corrigan 6 - 2 goals
Ben Kennedy 5
Jez Rigoni 5
Jack Glanvill 5 - 1 goal (19)
Tasmania
Geordie Payne 10 - 3 goals (19)
Max Mapley 10 - 2 goals (19)
Oliver Depaoli-Kubank 9 - 1 goal
Liam Ling 8
Connor Ling 7
Emig French 7 - 1 goal
Lenny Douglas 6 - 2 goals
Murray
Jack Whitlock 11 - 4 goals
*Riley Onley 9
Joe Berry 9 - 4 goals
Cohen Paul 7
Josh Murphy 6 - 4 goals
Ashton McPherson 6
*Ryder Corrigan 6 - 2 goals
Ben Kennedy 5
Jez Rigoni 5
Jack Glanvill 5 - 1 goal (19)
Tasmania
Geordie Payne 10 - 3 goals (19)
Max Mapley 10 - 2 goals (19)
Oliver Depaoli-Kubank 9 - 1 goal
Liam Ling 8
Connor Ling 7
Emig French 7 - 1 goal
Lenny Douglas 6 - 2 goals
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Sandringham v Calder (110-60) *=2025 draft
Sandringham
Sam Marshall 13
Taj Hotton 13
Luke Trainor 12
Josh Dolan 11 - 3 goals
Nathan Sulzberger 11 - 2 goals
Levi Ashcroft 10 - 2 goals
Harrison Oliver 10
Murphy Reid 9
Zach Travers 7 - 1 goal
Ned Maginness 7 (19)
Harry Armstrong 5 - 2goals
Lennox Hofmann 5
Bailey McKenzie 5 - 2 goals
Ben Seers 5
Charlie Rozenes 5
Luke Kennedy 5 - 1 goal
Sam Linder 5
Calder
Damon Hollow 11 - 1 goal
Jayden Nguyen 9
Isaac Kako 7 - 2 goals
Thomas Legudi 7 - 1 goal
Harry O'Farrell 5
Ryan Eyre 5 (19)
Sandringham
Sam Marshall 13
Taj Hotton 13
Luke Trainor 12
Josh Dolan 11 - 3 goals
Nathan Sulzberger 11 - 2 goals
Levi Ashcroft 10 - 2 goals
Harrison Oliver 10
Murphy Reid 9
Zach Travers 7 - 1 goal
Ned Maginness 7 (19)
Harry Armstrong 5 - 2goals
Lennox Hofmann 5
Bailey McKenzie 5 - 2 goals
Ben Seers 5
Charlie Rozenes 5
Luke Kennedy 5 - 1 goal
Sam Linder 5
Calder
Damon Hollow 11 - 1 goal
Jayden Nguyen 9
Isaac Kako 7 - 2 goals
Thomas Legudi 7 - 1 goal
Harry O'Farrell 5
Ryan Eyre 5 (19)
Despite being skewed to mids I like this rating system. Do you take points off for poor bits of play?
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he is playing good football...
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my point system isnt based on disposal numbers, its based on clean play, so you can get 20 dirty, turn over, fumbly, nothing poss, or you can be involved in good play and thats what scores points for me, if you were curious?
winning 30 disposals can be good, but im sure you've seen some horrible 30 disposal games... poor 30 disposal games are more common in junior footy, but sometimes an 18 disposal game can be influential.
winning 30 disposals can be good, but im sure you've seen some horrible 30 disposal games... poor 30 disposal games are more common in junior footy, but sometimes an 18 disposal game can be influential.
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Not a bad way to look at it, one player may only get it 10 times but is sensational for those 10 and that could give clubs enough to want to turn that 10 to about 20 at the next level with some good coaching and development
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Oakleigh v Eastern (54-82) *=2025 draft
Eastern
Josh Smillie 14 - 2 goals
Christian Moraes 10 - 2 goals
Cooper Trembath 9 (19)
Jak Ryan 9 - 2 goals
Zac McGown 8
*Lachy Dovaston 8
Ry Cantwell 7 - 1 goal (19)
*Oliver Greeves 6
Remy MacLean 6 - 1 goal (19)
Mitchell Gamel 6 - 1 goal
Cody Anderson 5
*Oscar Cafiso 5 - 1 goal
Iliro Smit 5 - 1 goal (19)
Oakleigh
Tom Gross 12 - 1 goal
Jagga Smith 12
Kobe Askew 9
Pat Retschko 8
Finn O'Sullivan 7
Oliver Badr 6 - 1 goal (19)
Waylon Davey-Motlop 5 - 2 goals
*Louis Emmett 5
Eastern
Josh Smillie 14 - 2 goals
Christian Moraes 10 - 2 goals
Cooper Trembath 9 (19)
Jak Ryan 9 - 2 goals
Zac McGown 8
*Lachy Dovaston 8
Ry Cantwell 7 - 1 goal (19)
*Oliver Greeves 6
Remy MacLean 6 - 1 goal (19)
Mitchell Gamel 6 - 1 goal
Cody Anderson 5
*Oscar Cafiso 5 - 1 goal
Iliro Smit 5 - 1 goal (19)
Oakleigh
Tom Gross 12 - 1 goal
Jagga Smith 12
Kobe Askew 9
Pat Retschko 8
Finn O'Sullivan 7
Oliver Badr 6 - 1 goal (19)
Waylon Davey-Motlop 5 - 2 goals
*Louis Emmett 5
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Isaac Kako, very exciting player, a consistent season from him and I can see him jumping up most draft boards. Have you got a prediction on Asher eastham coming out of Gippsland Power ? Played for vic country in the under 16’s championships and should be around the mark again of playing in the National championships this year I’d say
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Vic Country were by far the worst team at the u16s champs, they had a lot of good talent that has recently been identified which were missing from that u16s team which could make it harder for Eastham to be selected for u18s, but Eastham was there at the u16s and he wasnt great, looking at my u16s notes he scored 2 and 5 while kicking 2 goals in his 2 games, so not great numbers, compared to Kako who kicked 6 goals and scored 6, 13 and 7, so i wouldnt have them close in draft talent from their u16s, Kako easily top 30, Eastham not draft worthy on u16s form imo, their CTL form is very different as well Eastham 10 gms 10 gls to Kako 16 gms 33gls before this season, not even going into the difference in pace and athleticism..... Eastham has to improve, simple as that.
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Geelong v Dandenong (60-57) *=2025 draft
Geelong
Joe Pike 10 - 1 goal (19)
Angus Morrison 9
Noah Tullio 8 - 2 goals
Lachie Jaques 8
Xavier Ivisic 7
Cooper Ward 7 - 1 goal
Josh Sanders 6 - 1 goal
Brady Hall 5
Edan Ibbetson 5
Machlan Will 5 - 2 goals (19)
Dandenong
Cooper Hynes 15
Harvey Langford 11 - 3 goals
Harrison Doughton 10
Elwood Peckett 8
*Sam Lewis 7 - 1 goal
Jackson Muscillo 7 - 1 goal
Jordan Doherty 7
Charlie Rowe 7
*Tairon Ah-Mu 6 - 2 goals
*Max Lee 5
Ben Hopkins 5 (19)
Kane Hurst 5
Geelong
Joe Pike 10 - 1 goal (19)
Angus Morrison 9
Noah Tullio 8 - 2 goals
Lachie Jaques 8
Xavier Ivisic 7
Cooper Ward 7 - 1 goal
Josh Sanders 6 - 1 goal
Brady Hall 5
Edan Ibbetson 5
Machlan Will 5 - 2 goals (19)
Dandenong
Cooper Hynes 15
Harvey Langford 11 - 3 goals
Harrison Doughton 10
Elwood Peckett 8
*Sam Lewis 7 - 1 goal
Jackson Muscillo 7 - 1 goal
Jordan Doherty 7
Charlie Rowe 7
*Tairon Ah-Mu 6 - 2 goals
*Max Lee 5
Ben Hopkins 5 (19)
Kane Hurst 5
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round 1 thoughts
North v Western Game: Northern seemed the better team with a Western side who can counter attack quickly, which will win them a few games as they move the ball with speed when they can get a turnover, whereas Northern can beat a lot of teams with a more conventional form of football as they have more reliable talent.
most draft likely: Lucas McInerney(N), Zak Johnson(N), Lucca Grego(W), Thomas Sims(N), Jesse Dattoli(N)
Murray v Tasmania Game: Murray seemed the all round better team, but both teams got into a weird slog for the first half before Murray pulled ahead and won easily, Tassie are going to rely on a half dozen to really try and eeek out some wins
*(MSD) Geordie Payne(T) and Max Mapley(T)
most draft likely: Josh Murphy(M), Jack Whitlock(M), Oliver Depaoli-Kubank(T), Matt Whitlock(M), Joe Berry(M) Darby Wilson(M) Will McCarthy(M) Zac Harding(M)
Sandringham v Calder Game: Calder came out early with a 4-5 goal lead to start the game, but then Sandy took control of the game and it was done, too much talent at Sandringham and it might get them over the line for a 3-peat, Calder should have a strong year with a good squad
most draft likely: Levi Ashcroft(S), Harry O'Farrell(C), Nathan Sulzberger(S), Taj Hotton(S), Isaac Kako(C), Sam Marshall(S), Damon Hollow(C), Murphy Reid(S), Luke Trainor(S), Jayden Nguyen(C), Josh Dolan(S), Harrison Oliver(S), Harry Armstrong(S) Thomas Legudi(C), Bailey McKenzie(S)
Oakleigh v Eastern Game: injured players and a struggle to bond as a team has held Oakleigh back from being 1 of the major powers so far this season, they also struggle with scoring and dont have great KPP options who can give them a strong focal point, Eastern have a great midfield and thats without Greeves playing in there very much, Eastern have a lot of Key Position Talent from their 19s pool which helps in both ends and in the ruck and they should be strong again this year because of the KPP options all over the ground, unless some get picked up in the MSD.
*(MSD) Cooper Trembath(E), Ry Cantwell(E), Iliro Smit(E)
most draft likely: Finn O'Sullivan(O), Josh Smillie(E), Jagga Smith(O), Tom Gross(O), Christian Moraes(E), Pat Retschko(O), Luke Quaynor(O), Kobe Askew(O), Jak Ryan(E), Zac McGown(E), Doug Kerr(O)
Geelong v Dandenong Game: Dandenong dominated poss, but their forwardline is a shambles, now it was windy but they couldnt kick a goal to save their lives, Dandenong was playing with Geelong for the first 2 3/4 quarters and couldnt score, Geelong got some momentum in the rest of the game to kick 6 goals to win in a very low scoring game where Dandenong dominated, Geelong were helped by some umpire home bias to get them over the line.
*(MSD) Joe Pike(G)
most draft likely: Cooper Hynes(D), Harvey Langford(D), Elwood Peckett(D), Xavier Ivisic(G), Lachlan Jaques(G), Harrison Doughton(D)
GWV V Bendigo Game: the vision was too messy and i didnt want to mention less than half a game...
North v Western Game: Northern seemed the better team with a Western side who can counter attack quickly, which will win them a few games as they move the ball with speed when they can get a turnover, whereas Northern can beat a lot of teams with a more conventional form of football as they have more reliable talent.
most draft likely: Lucas McInerney(N), Zak Johnson(N), Lucca Grego(W), Thomas Sims(N), Jesse Dattoli(N)
Murray v Tasmania Game: Murray seemed the all round better team, but both teams got into a weird slog for the first half before Murray pulled ahead and won easily, Tassie are going to rely on a half dozen to really try and eeek out some wins
*(MSD) Geordie Payne(T) and Max Mapley(T)
most draft likely: Josh Murphy(M), Jack Whitlock(M), Oliver Depaoli-Kubank(T), Matt Whitlock(M), Joe Berry(M) Darby Wilson(M) Will McCarthy(M) Zac Harding(M)
Sandringham v Calder Game: Calder came out early with a 4-5 goal lead to start the game, but then Sandy took control of the game and it was done, too much talent at Sandringham and it might get them over the line for a 3-peat, Calder should have a strong year with a good squad
most draft likely: Levi Ashcroft(S), Harry O'Farrell(C), Nathan Sulzberger(S), Taj Hotton(S), Isaac Kako(C), Sam Marshall(S), Damon Hollow(C), Murphy Reid(S), Luke Trainor(S), Jayden Nguyen(C), Josh Dolan(S), Harrison Oliver(S), Harry Armstrong(S) Thomas Legudi(C), Bailey McKenzie(S)
Oakleigh v Eastern Game: injured players and a struggle to bond as a team has held Oakleigh back from being 1 of the major powers so far this season, they also struggle with scoring and dont have great KPP options who can give them a strong focal point, Eastern have a great midfield and thats without Greeves playing in there very much, Eastern have a lot of Key Position Talent from their 19s pool which helps in both ends and in the ruck and they should be strong again this year because of the KPP options all over the ground, unless some get picked up in the MSD.
*(MSD) Cooper Trembath(E), Ry Cantwell(E), Iliro Smit(E)
most draft likely: Finn O'Sullivan(O), Josh Smillie(E), Jagga Smith(O), Tom Gross(O), Christian Moraes(E), Pat Retschko(O), Luke Quaynor(O), Kobe Askew(O), Jak Ryan(E), Zac McGown(E), Doug Kerr(O)
Geelong v Dandenong Game: Dandenong dominated poss, but their forwardline is a shambles, now it was windy but they couldnt kick a goal to save their lives, Dandenong was playing with Geelong for the first 2 3/4 quarters and couldnt score, Geelong got some momentum in the rest of the game to kick 6 goals to win in a very low scoring game where Dandenong dominated, Geelong were helped by some umpire home bias to get them over the line.
*(MSD) Joe Pike(G)
most draft likely: Cooper Hynes(D), Harvey Langford(D), Elwood Peckett(D), Xavier Ivisic(G), Lachlan Jaques(G), Harrison Doughton(D)
GWV V Bendigo Game: the vision was too messy and i didnt want to mention less than half a game...
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Let me help you with that.
For Bendigo Tom Evans was best on and James Barrat, Tobie Travaglia and Dayten Uerata were not far behind.
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Plenty been made about the (former) dreadlocked pocket rocket tied to us, Isaac Kako. Jayden Nguyen is also tied to us via NGA. How'd you see his start to the year? Another solid game yesterday in the Cannons 10 point win.
Also, curious to hear your thoughts on Dante Iacovino (sp?), played a couple of games last year as a KPPF underage and showed something imho.
Also, curious to hear your thoughts on Dante Iacovino (sp?), played a couple of games last year as a KPPF underage and showed something imho.
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Cal had both Marshall and Ashcroft in he’s Top 6 draft rankings on Gettable the other week but you don’t have Sam in your top 30 what’s you knock on him ?
They where in his top 11 he hasn’t ranked his 11 in order yet
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I said earlier in this thread that after rewatching the u17s futures on gf day i wanted to add Sam to the top 30, he also had a clean round 1 game this year albeit 18 disposals, I have put in some thought about this player in recent days and i think I rank him around the 20-25 atm, a person I respect the opinion of was harshly critical of Sam in the off season, so I took some of that on board, I'm not sure on his athleticism, but his performances at the high tier level of junior footy is very good, judging talent is a multi faceted thing, it's performance × potential × athletic ability × personality traits like drive, determination, composure ect, I thought he was a standout for Bris A last year, he then was a solid player for the Allies and QLD last year without dominating, he was a consistent part of those teams, playing 2/4 games for the champs winning Allies I believe and playing in a game where QLD nearly beat V C, he was one of the best at the u17s futures game on gf day, he uses the ball well and can usually find a bit of it, maybe lacks some speed or penetration to bypass defenses
I had him around 30-40 because I wasn't sure if he was a plodder inside mid or if he could improve his impact on games, the analysis of the futures game I did recently changed my mind a bit and his form so far has reinforced that, so I have taken that into consideration and have him now just outside the top 20...
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Jayden is getting a lot of kick ins which really boost poss, he is slight and is playing half back, I would like to see him back on a wing and being more attacking, he has fallen out of favour with VM people it seems(not being in the initial squad) which could impact his exposure, I'm not sure about his place in the AFL, maybe at best he could be a Zac Fisher type? Love how he plays, but lacks physicality, has speed, skills are ok, needs to prove it at the state level and im not sure if VM pick him? Could go later than we all thought last year?
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obviously asking with draft prospects post 40 conditionally. If he slipped through the cracks and into the rookie draft, does he have more tricks than Mo Taha or Amin Naim who we overlooked last year as potential Cat B rookies?
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I think Jayden should get drafted, he has a lot of ticks in the skill and athletics columns, his physique is an issue, but there are plenty like Harry Morrison or Zac Fisher, James Aish, even Bradley Hill who can carve out careers ect
Mo Taha changed a bit from his underage season where he looked quicker and had better ball use, to his draft year where he developed physically, but not in a way that helped his football in his draft year, Amin Naim looked like a good general forward, but the bombers thought he wasn't what they needed I guess?
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What are your thoughts on the Cat B list? Naim seemed like a perfect situation for us. No Cat B rookies at Tulla, a position we could use troops in and seemed to have some tricks.
