Toast Dawes and Cloke Together...

[Swooop]

They did seem to work well together...having both there did seem to give more structure.

Does Travis normally do the 'grass in the air thing'...or has he had some coaching lately?

 

[Thommo 42]

We are too good a side and have too good a depth to just carry him for 5 weeks.

He should play next week, because his form was good this week. I don't want him to just get given 5 games. Ig he is rubbish next week, and the one after - he goes out.

Having said that, I reckon he'll be even better next week.

 

[TradeDraft]

We are too good a side and have too good a depth to just carry him for 5 weeks.

He should play next week, because his form was good this week. I don't want him to just get given 5 games. Ig he is rubbish next week, and the one after - he goes out.

Having said that, I reckon he'll be even better next week.

Well with him in the Side looked the best it has all year and We actually Kick Straight as well because he went more Direct

 

[Wooljay]

Well with him in the Side looked the best it has all year and We actually Kick Straight as well because he went more Direct

Our accuracy in front of goal had nothing to do with Dawes.

 

[September Action]

Without Dawes in the side, Cloke would not have kicked 4 goals in the first half. Hate to say it, but Cloke would not have been playing so close to goal if Dawes had not been playing. You still don't get it, do you!

Don't know what makes me say it, but...are you biased??

Actually, I agree!

 

[Optimax]

Well with him in the Side looked the best it has all year and We actually Kick Straight as well because he went more Direct

I reckon trav and Fraser may have helped that

oh and jolly leading a complete center square and midfield domination, until half way through the third Dawes had dine nothing and his main weakness over head marking exposed. Hopefully he can continue on with the late 3rd quarter form, but to thank him for making us direct lol no

 

[TradeDraft]

Our accuracy in front of goal had nothing to do with Dawes.

I think it was as it aloud us to put Balls to the Goal Square and not go to the Bloody Flanks. Having 2 Massive KPF can help you do that

 

[TradeDraft]

I reckon trav and Fraser may have helped that

oh and jolly leading a complete center square and midfield domination, until half way through the third Dawes had dine nothing and his main weakness over head marking exposed. Hopefully he can continue on with the late 3rd quarter form, but to thank him for making us direct lol no

Early in the 1st he was Involved in the 2 Cloke Goals and Had Good Pressure in the Forward Line after he dropped a mark he put a 2nd effort in and got the guy for holding the ball

 

[the_fresh]

I think it was as it aloud us to put Balls to the Goal Square and not go to the Bloody Flanks. Having 2 Massive KPF can help you do that

What it allowed us to do was have 6 forward players all willing to tackle and stop the flow going out. That in turn when the ball was turned over gave us shots on goal not out in the pockets, ie. in front of goal.

 

[Optimax]

Early in the 1st he was Involved in the 2 Cloke Goals and Had Good Pressure in the Forward Line after he dropped a mark he put a 2nd effort in and got the guy for holding the ball

Had this convo Dave, it's all well and good Dawes is good on the ground but if he was a better overhead mark it wouldn't be so important

The fact his ground level work is considered a strength and his overhead marking a weakness is an issue, but his marking has improved and with anthony and rus unfit and out form he has games to improve.

But in the end Dawes was a solid 5 max 6 out of 10, definetly wasn't the difference or the catalyst but got better and showed signs

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Oh right, so the shot he slotted on the boundary line was because of Dawes? Mate, he had close to the same number of set shots he normally does, however he just kicked 4.1 instead of 1.4 this time. Don't take cloke's performance away from him just because you're on the Daweswagon.

It is not about individuals but structure. With Cloke as the only tall in the forward line and playing a long way from goal, we lacked a tall focus in the goal square. Cloke simply looks a better player with Dawes playing in the forward line.

I fail to understand why you are unable to see how much better the forward line functioned with Cloke playing deeper and Dawes playing Cloke's usual role. Mind you, they did seem to swap around a bit - for instance, whenDawes kicked his 2 goals.

So you want us to go back to the old set up, using an under-sized full forward in Anthony? There is still a spot for Anthony, one where he is not taking the best defender each week.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Reading through the comments, I reckon TradeDraft and I must have watched a different game.

 

[Optimax]

Reading through the comments, I reckon TradeDraft and I must have watched a different game.

Or the Same game with rose coloured glasses.

Dawes was better then last year I agree but he still has flaws, basically no in this thread is underrating Dawes and his game today some are doing the opposite though

 

[buzzbuzz]

Fumbleton couldn't take a single mark in his first game this year, and the following week he looked a hell of a lot better. Give Dawes another week or two and hopefully he'll be taking those overhead marks.

 

[Zahki]

Dawes was alright. I liked what he did, his goals were perhaps more luck than any skillful play, but hey he got them. Did enough to deserve another chance next week, hopefully he can stick those marks.

 

[Wooljay]

Can't say I am going to take anything someone with the name 'MyManDawes' says regarding Dawes without a grain of salt.

Opti pretty much reflects how I felt about it all, I'm not condemning him, but I'm not going to cream my jeans over an average effort.

 

[Syphoncom]

Look like a Fantastic Tandem so Far with Dawes leading up and being a Linkman just outside 50 and putting Great Pressure on the Bombers Big Talls.

While Cloke has a 1 vs 1 and is Killing his Opponent and Kicked 4 Goals in a Half

How about we just morph them into one person?

Cloke pulls down every mark that comes his way. Even those who think he kicks like a goat must admit he's played incredibly well and 1-on-1, his strength is amazing.

If Cloke could mark them, injure something and Dawes kicked it... we'd be onto something.

 

[Number 10]

Dawes is not going anywhere, with suppoort like this, he is our main man, amazing what a big boy can do for a players (cloke) confidence.

he was in there to take clokes position,and did it better than he.
with one of the best marks in the comp (cloke), all dawes needed to do was make a contest and if he took it, bomb it to cloke.

shuttup about him not taking it above his head, hes 10x better than brown and gave space to cloke which is what he needs to stamp his name in the AFL.

He's finally found his place and we need to work with it

 

[TradeDraft]

Had this convo Dave, it's all well and good Dawes is good on the ground but if he was a better overhead mark it wouldn't be so important

The fact his ground level work is considered a strength and his overhead marking a weakness is an issue, but his marking has improved and with anthony and rus unfit and out form he has games to improve.

But in the end Dawes was a solid 5 max 6 out of 10, definetly wasn't the difference or the catalyst but got better and showed signs

Hey I would also love him to take more Overhead Marks. When he does take him he looks like a Gun.

I give him a 7.5 but I guess we all have our Different Ratings. I agree he was not the Difference but he was Better then he was Last Year and showed that he is Imporving

 

[TradeDraft]

Reading through the comments, I reckon TradeDraft and I must have watched a different game.

I think we did mate

 

[TradeDraft]

Dawes is not going anywhere, with suppoort like this, he is our main man, amazing what a big boy can do for a players (cloke) confidence.

he was in there to take clokes position,and did it better than he.
with one of the best marks in the comp (cloke), all dawes needed to do was make a contest and if he took it, bomb it to cloke.

shuttup about him not taking it above his head, hes 10x better than brown and gave space to cloke which is what he needs to stamp his name in the AFL.

He's finally found his place and we need to work with it

Spot On Mate

 

[half_back_flank]

They did seem to work well together...having both there did seem to give more structure.

Does Travis normally do the 'grass in the air thing'...or has he had some coaching lately?

Lloyd? Would love it if Cloke could get some advice from the set shots master.

 

[half_back_flank]

As for Dawes, a big improvement on Brown. The players actually have the confidence to kick to him which helps our structure to no end.

 

[TradeDraft]

As for Dawes, a big improvement on Brown. The players actually have the confidence to kick to him which helps our structure to no end.

Agree Dawes is way Better then Leroy - I hope Leroy get use to the VFL Side

 

[Frankie23]

The Dawes show began yesterday in very good fashion

15 touches, 6 marks and 2 goals, take that from a young KPP in his first game of the year.

I was very impressed with his workrate, second efforts and positioning when leading. Once he gets the big dukes out in front of him instead of going for the chest mark he will will a powerful forward option.