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Tazwegian said:
Round 2 selection absolute maximum. Melbourne don't have a lot of depth in the KPF section, so I think Dawes could play a role. However, he is not worth a round 1 selection. You guys should be rebuilding still, challenging for around four years time. With Viney at 26, you have a great opportunity to select three absolute guns in round 1. Those guys should be seen as the core you build around, to compliment guys like Trengrove, Howe, Grimes, and co when they peak in another three years.

Dawes will be 25 next year, and I am sure he will make you more competitive going into the forward line. However, not worth sacrificing getting three potential jets on top of Jack Viney.
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Agree with this post Taz!
I would only offer up a 2nd rnd pick for Dawes at best. Perhaps if we get another 2nd rnd pick for FA losses I would trade for Dawes then, but he is no where near worth #13.

We need mids, mids & more mids. Preferably mids with speed & goal kicking ability!!!
 
Man, this Caddy chacter seems a complete ****ing tool. DO NOT WANT.

I would like Pedo over Dawes, but either will do, I want all my first rounders!
 
Dawes is not worth any first or second round pick. He is on the outer at the club and has been replaced by a 30yo, so it says a lot about how highly Collingwood rate him. The club would have to be ****ing stupid to pay overs for him.
 
Syrus said:
Dawes is not worth any first or second round pick. He is on the outer at the club and has been replaced by a 30yo, so it says a lot about how highly Collingwood rate him. The club would have to be ******* stupid to pay overs for him.
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I reckon Dawes is worth a 2nd roud pick to us. Good point re: he has been replaced by a 30yo, but need to keep in mind Lynch is a proven 2nd ruck option and Dawes was useless in that role, and Cloke won't play ruck either. We on the other hand have Clark, Sellar and Martin who can play 2nd / 1st ruck roles, so Dawes is more valuable to us as a 2nd big forward than to the Pies... so we are likely to pay overs for him, but i also beleive not pick 13 unless we are getting something else in the deal
 

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CTHORANGE said:
I reckon Dawes is worth a 2nd roud pick to us. Good point re: he has been replaced by a 30yo, but need to keep in mind Lynch is a proven 2nd ruck option and Dawes was useless in that role, and Cloke won't play ruck either. We on the other hand have Clark, Sellar and Martin who can play 2nd / 1st ruck roles, so Dawes is more valuable to us as a 2nd big forward than to the Pies... so we are likely to pay overs for him, but i also beleive not pick 13 unless we are getting something else in the deal
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A maximum second round pick, but under no circumstances should we trade pick 3, 4 or 13 to the filth and help strenthen their club. It would be a great injustice to the league and a drafting **** up by the club of Fremantle proportions.
 
Syrus said:
Dawes is not worth any first or second round pick. He is on the outer at the club and has been replaced by a 30yo, so it says a lot about how highly Collingwood rate him. The club would have to be ******* stupid to pay overs for him.
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I think Lynch is replacing Leigh Brown who was sorly missed

Dawes is just feeling rpessured by this maybe?

but yeah i would say pick 20 is dawes maximum worth, also he wants to leave not collingwood moving him on from what i gather?
 
Bond.ShaneBond said:
Not keen at all on trading in Chris "laughing stock of the AFL" Dawes. The thought of it has killed my JV26 chubby.
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Yeah, we got about 1 hour of relief about JV26, and now the stress begins all over again with how we are going to screw up 3,4 and 13. It's obvious we don't have a lot of faith in our recruiters!

I wish I could stop myself from keeping on reading these threads - on every page there is something that worries me. Sometimes I wish I could just go to sleep until the end of trade period and wake up and face the news.
 
These rumours make me feel
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So I'm leaving until something official is announced. For my own sanity's sake. Farewell and good luck.
 
**** no, Collingwood do not deserve to have pick 3, 4 or 13 for anything less than Pendlebury or Beams.
 
Dawes for a second round pick courtesy of Moloney
Wellingham I would trade pick 13 for.

Doesn't matter because Wellingham won't come but if we trade 13 for Dawes I'll begin to start seriously questioning Neeld who until this point had a pretty reasonable record in trading and FA
 
Any pick to Collingwood would probably go to GC to facilitate Caddy (if they're even after him)

So much BS

Take Caddy for example. It keeps getting reported he doesn't want to come to us, yet has he or his manager even been quoted saying so??

Like this from here:

The 20-year-old has been linked to Melbourne, but he's made it known that he's not interested in going to the Demons.

"At this early stage we're happy to keep the conversation going and then at some stage narrow in and see what best suits," Lenton said.

"I have no doubt that a deal will be struck where both parties are really happy."

Don't see a quote there from his manager saying he doesn't want to come to Melbourne
 

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Footy Smarts said:
I don't really see why there's such angst about getting Dawes. He's only 24 and is clearly a better player than what he showed this year. He's not worth pick 13 on his own but a pick in the 20s could end up being a steal for the dees.
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In the 20's to 30's possibly. But in no way is he worth anything near what we got Mitch Clark for.
 
Ando727 said:
Presumably we wouldn't have to pay him anywhere near as much as Clark though. I won't be too bothered by a Dawes trade as long as it doesn't mess with picks 3 or 4.
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Clark went with pick 12. It has been speculated we would trade pick 13 for Dawes, for which he is not worth.
 
Syrus said:
Clark went with pick 12. It has been speculated we would trade pick 13 for Dawes, for which he is not worth.
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I was talking about money in the above comparison. I also don't think we can necessarily make direct comparisons with picks from year to year. I'm not saying 13 would be ideal, just that I wouldn't be too upset if we lost 13, provided he isn't on a massive pay packet. I wouldn't do it, but I won't be upset if it happens. Picks 3 and 4, however, they should be untouchable. Just my opinion.
 

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Syrus said:
Caddy sounds like a real spoilt tosser. He can G&GF.
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Yep, just got out of the gold coast and acting like he's worth the same as Chris Judd
 
Ando727 said:
I was talking about money in the above comparison. I also don't think we can necessarily make direct comparisons with picks from year to year. I'm not saying 13 would be ideal, just that I wouldn't be too upset if we lost 13, provided he isn't on a massive pay packet. I wouldn't do it, but I won't be upset if it happens. Picks 3 and 4, however, they should be untouchable. Just my opinion.
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I wouldn't go giving away pick 13 in a supposed superdraft for him though. You are right he isnt worth anywhere near the coin we paid Mitch, but knowing Collingwood they would expect a low draft pick for him and most likely expect us to pay out his contract on top of what we may offer him. If thats the case you let him stay there and we look at drafting someone else, like Pederson. I agree picks 3 and 4 should be untouchable.
 
Syrus said:
I wouldn't go giving away pick 13 in a supposed superdraft for him though. You are right he isnt worth anywhere near the coin we paid Mitch, but knowing Collingwood they would expect a low draft pick for him and most likely expect us to pay out his contract on top of what we may offer him. If thats the case you let him stay there and we look at drafting someone else, like Pederson. I agree picks 3 and 4 should be untouchable.
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Even in a supposed superdraft, it remains to be seen whether picks outside the top 10 are any different to previous years. I think there might be a bit of hyperbole about the draft. Why would dozens of super talented players suddenly materialise that are so much better than previous years? As far as paying Dawes goes, obviously I wouldn't support the proposition you've put forward there. I would only accept it if we negotiated a sensible price for him. I don't think pick 13 and a modest pay deal is paying overs.
 
I agree the temptation to trade in another AFL body with an early pick is definitely tempting but sometimes the players on offer are just not worth it.

We sniffed around and didn't get alot of bites, no harm done there. For now get superstars #3. #4, #13 and Viney and develop them into our next premiership stars
 
IMO people shouldn't rage so much towards players (i.e. Caddy and Wellingham) who have said they don't want to come to the MFC. 1, they can make a choice if they want, it's a free country. 2, I don't blame them given what an absolute basketcase we have been for 5+ years.
 
Laughed pretty hard when I read pick #4 for Dawes and Wellingham....A 'Blockbuster' deal, apparently. Hilarious...

Pick #13 for Dawes and Wellingham 'might' be closer to the mark. But i'm thinking that we could get picks for Gysberts, Morton, Moloney and Rivers potentially that could be used, instead of having to forego pick #13. I mean, if we're going to part with pick #13, it's got to be for an elite talent. I think both those players are good and would help our cause, but I think Wellingham is a bit overrated because he gets under the radar in an A grade midfield. I'd be willing to give up around pick 20 for him, and perhaps pick 35-40 for Dawes.
 

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