Rumour Dayne Beams set to “retire”

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Thanks for everything Dayne.

yes, his exit was horrible but he was one of the major changes in culture at the lions.

I lost my father to suicide at 25 years old. I know daynes hurt regardless of how a father goes out.

I wish him nothing but the absolute best in life for him and his family.
An absolute talent on and off the field

cheers Dayne wish you nothing but the best
 

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No one said there weren't consequences to his actions. But why wouldnt you feel sorry for people who make poor decisions? It's so easy for persons to sit on their thrones feeling justified that people get their rightful punishments. More often than not peoples minds dish out more than enough 'justice'. For this to happen as a public person is crap. There is nowhere for him to hide.
Good luck to you if you screw up and a million people 'comment or have an opinion'. Imagine being thrown into a job like that at 18 years of age ffs have some bloody compassion you ghoul
Compassion is cheap, now doing something that's action. Go and help him mate, actually do something aside from typing compassion, which is to say u are doing nothing but standing on a soapbox telling everyone how good you are, you and your compassion :) Just empty words, no action behind them...
 

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Compassion is cheap, now doing something that's action. Go and help him mate, actually do something aside from typing compassion, which is to say u are doing nothing but standing on a soapbox telling everyone how good you are, you and your compassion :) Just empty words, no action behind them...
I dont have the capacity to help him with his problems. That doesn't mean I cant understand that he has some. Do you really need someone to personally bail you out to show they have empathy for another person? A lot of comments here are going for this guys throat just because he is troubled and we know who he is. No soap box. It should never be a stage to stand up to this kind of stuff.
'Hahaha he made so many mistakes watch his life crumble' yeah good on you. Be a big man.
 

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incog43

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I dont have the capacity to help him with his problems. That doesn't mean I cant understand that he has some. Do you really need someone to personally bail you out to show they have empathy for another person? A lot of comments here are going for this guys throat just because he is troubled and we know who he is. No soap box. It should never be a stage to stand up to this kind of stuff.
'Hahaha he made so many mistakes watch his life crumble' yeah good on you. Be a big man.
No mate, maybe his life is just starting. Now that's understanding.

you are all talk, compassion, empathy, all free, no investment, but you get to feel good don't you.

That quote above, I never typed that. Just make it up as you go pal.
 

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I'm guessing that he will get a negotiated payout from the Pies for 50 cents in the dollar and then mysteriously, two of his paintings will sell for a shitload
I heard from player management circles that the settlement is around 300 thousand as Daynes management cant waite to get rid of him. So that speaks volumes if that happens.
 

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Very sad to hear that another absolutely gifted player is taken from us by the spectre of mental health. Loved watching him play and a real shame and loss to the entire AFL family. Loss of a parent will rock you no matter how much money/fame/success you have. Here's to hoping he can sort it out and come back stronger and be a force for change.

Side note: When is the AFL going to wake up? Hogan, Boyd, Beams... the list just keeps on growing.....
The list keeps on growing? 3 people? Hardly a list and compared to jobs such as armed forces, education, police, fire and medical, it doesn't even come close to being on a similar level. It's just that these guys are in the spotlight and make the news. I've had depression, i do talks to students and teachers about mental health, and let me tell you, the AFL doesn't come close to having as many mental health issues as any of the professions that i listed. One school i used to work at had more than half of the staff on anti depressants.

I am concerned about clubs and league using mental health as a cover for bad life choices. But it's hard as the general public to know which came first, if mental health issues are indeed even true. Of course in the case of Beams and Hogan, losing a loved one can absolutely be a trigger and i agree 100% that the AFL should be doing all they can to support their players who have mental health issues. I wish Dayne all the best and hope a lot of the rumours aren't true. Getting sacked (retired) publicly can be a trigger for suicide. The club and the league need to throw an arm around him as much as they can, and his mates need to make sure he continues to recieve the right help which i hope the Pies or AFL are paying for and monitoring.
 

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Spot on. How much of Beams mental illness is directly attributed to his own decisions. We are all accountable for our actions, realising that isnt "mental health" its a wake up call. Everyone goes through rough patches, all of a sudden every rough patch people go through is "mental health".

Easily the most overused words in society atm. People think any negative emotion like sadness, nerves, anger etc is "mental health". It isnt, people have these emotions every single day, youre not special or "depressed", learn how to deal with it ffs.

News stories of teenagers suffering from "mental health" over the "climate crisis". Give me a ******* spell. Stop pandering to this nonsense, some people actually do just have to pull their socks up. Takes away from the genuine MH cases...
I second this and third this , it takes away from real MH sufferers
 

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Well actually, I really could get less about survey after survey, the election result is the one that counts, policy is derived from that result.

Labor lost because people care about the economy, jobs, energy prices et al....sadly, you just don't get that.
You sound like the typical voter the coalition target in their media campaigns.
Naive and easily persuaded.
 
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Speaking to a few former Queensland footballers, when some of the lions boys used to go out to dinner, as it came time to paying the bill, rather than pay the bill at the counter or at the table, beamsy would always ‘insist on speaking to management’. They’d have a chat, shake hands then all walk out without paying a cent. He’d return to the venue days if not weeks later, get questioned about the previous bill and argue that it was previously settled with management
 

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People debating there are only two positions you can take on this matter (total compassion and no self responsibility for his actions vs basically hammering the guy), consider a third.

Its a real shame, but wish him no ill will in the future.
 

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The rumors surrounding this car crash and the bushfire relief are pretty damning.

It certainly aligns with how quickly he's "retired" after this car accident....
 

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This morning on the Neil Mitchell show he stated a high profile player had gambling debts and Bikes were chasing him also stole money and credit card.He stated that he was not going to name this person but was going to ring the president and put the question to him.witch he did off air president stated there is no truth in the rumour just some people making thing up
This sounds quite intense. Hopefully the bikes have been apprehended and locked up, preferably to a bike rack.
 
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That's not even close to true. Survey after survey has shown that a majority of Australians support action against climate change. That number may fluctuate, but the majority has remained for over a decade.

The reality is, there are very few 'issue' voters and that small number is diminishing.

Labor lost because of a confluence of myriad factors. Mixed messaging/poor messaging, an historically weak leader, a media largely stacked against progressive politics and policies that were poorly articulated and easy to direct scare campaigns against by said media.

Throw in some truly dodgy campaigning from Palmer, preferencing and some flat out untrue social media messaging from vested interests and you have a Labor loss.

I mean hell, Abbott lost his, largely because of his stance on climate change.
This is all completely true, but I think you've underestimated the impact of massive funding rorts and their ability to get the LNP back in as well.
 

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Serious question and a general one rather than a comment on Beams who is in a very bad way by the sounds of it..........

Is the hypersensitivity surrounding mental health, public airing/ coming out and overall heightened 'awareness' actually making much of a difference?

From what I can tell the only real benefit (and a notable one) is removing some of the stigma and ridicule that may once have been directed at the sufferer. Im not sure it does any more than that to be completely honest. In fact it concerns me that it can almost spread (like a virus) across friendship groups and families. Was the old fashioned 'stiff upper lip/ keep your problems to yourself' actually all that bad for society as a whole?

Now don't hate on me all at once. Thoughts?
 

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Serious question and a general one rather than a comment on Beams who is in a very bad way by the sounds of it..........

Is the hypersensitivity surrounding mental health, public airing/ coming out and overall heightened 'awareness' actually making much of a difference?

From what I can tell the only real benefit (and a notable one) is removing some of the stigma and ridicule that may once have been directed at the sufferer. Im not sure it does any more than that to be completely honest. In fact it concerns me that it can almost spread (like a virus) across friendship groups and families. Was the old fashioned 'stiff upper lip/ keep your problems to yourself' actually all that bad for society as a whole?

Now don't hate on me all at once. Thoughts?
I thought this when Danny Frawley died. Being very public about his problems would only have put more pressure on him IMO, it obviously didn't help him at all in the long run. I'm all for getting the medical and professional help you need and for being open about it with family and close friends but I don't think being a public advocate for it, talking about it constantly, helps at all.
 
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Really bad trade/free agency period for Collingwood at the end of 2018. Missed out on Lynch and gave up two first rounders for Beams. All after losing a heartbreaking Grand Final as well.
2 first rounders for Beams on a 4 year contract was criminal list management.

I wonder how much influence Eddie had on it? No secret their close and rumours of Eddie helping bail Beams out of his gambling debts.

It wasn't only a poor deal due to the issues Beams was known to be having away from football, but from a pure football sense Collingwood didn't need yet another gun midfielder...their midfield is already good enough. They should have invested those picks and the salary into an area of need - like a key forward.
 

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Oh, that's just because we're stupid and selfish. We know there is a climate change emergency, but we're stupid and selfish enough to think we will get some sort of action on climate change from any government, but we'll also get the promised economic boom that liberal governments always promise - even though the money never actually lands in the pockets of average Australians. We are pretty much the most politically stupid populace in the world - probably even more than the US.
Is that you Hillary?
 

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