Mega Thread Dayne Beams trade (Its over, thread closed)

What do you support the club to do? (Opposition respondents will be carded)


  • Total voters
    155
  • Poll closed .
Status
Not open for further replies.

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Unknown Identity

Professional Strawman
Joined
Oct 7, 2009
Posts
15,853
Likes
22,397
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Dallas Cowboys Chicago Bulls
If Brisbane don't put up a decent offer, i reckon hold onto Beams.

Worst case scenario, it all goes to hell and he walks, we get a compo pick of probably around 8-15 (optimistic) depending on how bad we are next year.

A lot can happen in a year. Id be wiling to take maybe a pick 10 instead of pick 4 just to send a message to the rest of the comp, players and members that we aren't going to just role over
There is no Compo pick next year!!!!!!!!!!!
He is not a free agent until 2016.

He can walk to the draft the same way Luke Ball did and we get nothing!
 

ppoiter

Premium Gold
Joined
Feb 28, 2013
Posts
3,092
Likes
3,558
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Warriors, Arsenal
The gist was that the Brisbane supporters told us that we were getting pick 4 and crisp that beams was going into ths PSD next year and we told them to get stuffed. It went in circles for 20 pages.
At the risk of continuing the circle, I'd rather we lose him for first round compo next year than get screwed by Brisbane if they want to use his family situation as leverage. F.star.star.K em
 

PieNSauce

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Aug 22, 2007
Posts
8,230
Likes
5,293
Location
Melbourne
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
are jealous!
I get the annoyance directed at Brisbane from some here but does anyone honestly believe that Collingwood will do anything other than what it sees as best for its own ends? The club couldn't give a fat rats clacker about Brisbane or what it gains or loses. It's all about getting the best compensation possible for losing a player who is highly regarded and was seen as being one of the planks of our future success. Both Brisbane and Collingwood are aware that the risks attaching to holding out too far are too great. A deal will be done and I think that whatever the outcome it will hurt us more than them. That's just the cold reality of a player wanting out.
 

weevil

Premium Platinum
Joined
Jul 15, 2003
Posts
15,531
Likes
2,580
Location
Vegas
AFL Club
Brisbane Lions
Stop reading bigfooty yesterday evening, log on this morning, Dayne Beams thread has advanced by 20 pages. Did I miss anything?
Entire Collingwood board got sucked in by a couple of Brisbane trolls. Became fixated by the idea that Brisbane will only ever offer pick 4 and as a result got itself needlessly incredibly angry at Brisbane and their supporters as a result.

This is despite nearly all Brisbane posters agreeing that the Lions will have to offer a fair deal and Brisbane's list manager saying pick 4 was the offer "at this stage".
 

otfc42

Team Captain
Joined
Aug 18, 2007
Posts
413
Likes
232
Location
ACT
AFL Club
Collingwood
If you are only going to get pick 4 for Beams in the end, Dean Warren would have offered a second rounder in his interview today.

Don't panic - read the play and the ambit claims for what they are. Both clubs have to look like they are fighting for the best result for their respective fanbases. It's just posturing.
Spot on mate, when it comes down to it it is simply business. The buyer try's to get the product as cheaply as they can and the seller wants as much as they can get.

The two clubs will find some common ground, of that I have no doubt.

If I was Brisbane I would be saying exactly what they are saying to the media as what they are now. They need to be seen as a strong club by their members who only ask for the fairest deal possible. Not dissimilar to the stance taken by the Pies.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

SchuPie

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 16, 2009
Posts
1,733
Likes
2,428
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Celtics, Canucks, Seahawks
Pick 4 and Mayes or get out the hell out of here.

If Brisbane aren't prepared to give up that for one of the games proven elite midfielders then they've got rocks in there head.

Mayes at present is nothing more than a promising second year player, playing for a bottom 4 side who's worth is seen as greater because he was taken within the top 10 in the 2012 draft.

Beams in his second season was good enough to force his way into a team that won the flag.

Pick 4 (5) could become a boom selection in time but could also be a complete bust.

Mayes is the same.

It's a fair deal, especially for Brisbane.
This is what Brisbane / fans need to realise.

A high draft pick for our second best player doesnt cut it - pick 4/5 could easily be a bust (or a jet) but we need a top quality player that has shown something (Aish/Mayes) to get value for Beams.
The quality player is the trade, the pick is the sweetener that gets the trade competed.

Therefore:
Beams for Aish (Star for potential star) + Pick 4 is the difference in the gap bw star and potential star
 

Scodog10

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Jul 25, 2008
Posts
17,136
Likes
24,174
Location
The Linc
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Oakland Raiders
Entire Collingwood board got sucked in by a couple of Brisbane trolls. Became fixated by the idea that Brisbane will only ever offer pick 4 and as a result got itself needlessly incredibly angry at Brisbane and their supporters as a result.

This is despite nearly all Brisbane posters agreeing that the Lions will have to offer a fair deal and Brisbane's list manager saying pick 4 was the offer "at this stage".
Not going to speak on behalf of others, but that stuff doesn't bother me.

The posters that grind my gears are those that come on here and tell us Crisp is in your top 3 or that we'd be lucky to have Lester.
 
Joined
May 24, 2014
Posts
57
Likes
44
AFL Club
Collingwood
I think the club should consider pick 4 and Josh Green. It's probably a little unders, but we are not blessed with any GENUINE small forwards, Green is a Tassie boy, and has won multiple games off his own boot. We also haven't topped up our ranga stocks since Johnno and young left. Brisbane supporters thoughts?
 

Kirby

First of his name
Joined
Oct 10, 2007
Posts
12,842
Likes
16,783
Location
Melbourne
AFL Club
Collingwood
For what it's worth Eddie said this morning that both Beams and his manager want the Pies to be compensated fairly in a trade and he still thinks it will get done if all involved are sensible, but it may involve a third party.

Interestingly, when asked by others on his show whether there were "any other factors" invloved in his request for a trade Eddie responded that it doesn't help that a big fat contract has been offered to him by Brisbane.
 

ppoiter

Premium Gold
Joined
Feb 28, 2013
Posts
3,092
Likes
3,558
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Warriors, Arsenal
For what it's worth Eddie said this morning that both Beams and his manager want the Pies to be compensated fairly in a trade and he still thinks it will get done if all involved are sensible, but it may involve a third party.

Interestingly, when asked by others on his show whether there were "any other factors" invloved in his request for a trade Eddie responded that it doesn't help that a big fat contract has been offered to him by Brisbane.
Wouldnt that be illegal if true?
 

weevil

Premium Platinum
Joined
Jul 15, 2003
Posts
15,531
Likes
2,580
Location
Vegas
AFL Club
Brisbane Lions
Not going to speak on behalf of others, but that stuff doesn't bother me.

The posters that grind my gears are those that come on here and tell us Crisp is in your top 3 or that we'd be lucky to have Lester.
Yeah, that is totally fair enough. I'd definitely be taking what a couple of Brisbane posters here are saying with very large grains of salt. They are simply trying to yank your chains.
 

otfc42

Team Captain
Joined
Aug 18, 2007
Posts
413
Likes
232
Location
ACT
AFL Club
Collingwood
Go close to swapping him for WHE. Future gun
Seem a lot of this kid live and on TV. I'm not a big one on comparisons but this kid has a lot of Daisy (early years) with a bit of Fyffe thrown in written all over him.

He will be an exciting 200 game player.

On an endnote to all those that say he needs to put a few kilos on....it won't happen for him and he doesn't need them.
 

RGpies

Team Captain
Joined
Dec 4, 2013
Posts
328
Likes
301
AFL Club
Collingwood
Joel Patful has requested a trade to sydney with GWS the likely club, looks like GWS will be the 3rd club involved. I would personally love Sheil, but his manager made it clear yesterday he would be a GWS next year. I would inquire about treloar, devon smith and hoskin elliot
 

MyManLynch

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Oct 4, 2012
Posts
7,478
Likes
9,715
Location
Singapore
AFL Club
Collingwood
Stop reading bigfooty yesterday evening, log on this morning, Dayne Beams thread has advanced by 20 pages. Did I miss anything?
Yes, apparently negotiations between BF Collingwood & BF Brisbane have broken down.
If they cannot come to an agreement, then the actual Football clubs themselves may have to sort this out.
 
Last edited:

iGNITER

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Posts
6,887
Likes
4,779
Location
Vegas
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Collingwood VFL, Melbourne Storm
If its about QLD then we can definitely discuss this with Gold Coast as well.
I go there for work all the time and it is only 50 mins or so drive from Gold Coast to Brisbane.

IF Dayne and his Manager really want us to be fairly compensated then I am sure if the deal is better from GC then he will agree to go there.

Pick 4 alone will not get this deal done. Draft picks are hit and miss and Dayne Beams is HIT not even close to miss.

On a personal note, I know a couple of Brisbane supporters and they are complete muppets.
 

Scodog10

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Jul 25, 2008
Posts
17,136
Likes
24,174
Location
The Linc
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Oakland Raiders
Yeah, that is totally fair enough. I'd definitely be taking what a couple of Brisbane posters here are saying with very large grains of salt. They are simply trying to yank your chains.
The flipside is that even without venturing onto your board no doubt the equivilant thread comprises of some Pies posters claiming Beams to be the second coming of Christ and following that up with Aish + 4, FTW!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom