Dear Mark...

[marcuz]

Robo raises a good point in the article though Bolton does try his arse off and i think the only reason he attracts such a baging is cause he was pick number 4, however if he were taken at pick 34 would we be more inclined to be more lenient on bolts?

if bolts was picked at 34 would he still be on the list?

 

[Philhawk]

So i guess the question is....

What is Mark Robinsons username?

marcuz.

 

[Longy413]

And Mark how dare you say anything good about Mark Bolton. How did I know Longy would be the first with something negative to say about the article.

It was a good article, if I had a problem with the article, I would have quoted the whole thing. I took issue to one comment.

How did I know you would be the first to be negative towards me and put words in my mouth?

I think Longy 4 13 is acting a bit like a ladies blouse. Robo makes a good point because the cowards he is referring to are those on this forum who are anonymous, and bag Bolton. At least Robo puts his name to everything he writes. Don't forget, the forum gives you the ability to shitcan, not a licence.

I guess that makes you a coward for your constant disapproval of Kevin Sheedy and the coaching staff.

I guess that makes TD, Bossco and yourself cowards in your critisism of everything I write.

I offer my opinion in a public forum where everyone has the write of reply. As a passsionate supporter of my club I'm actually allowed to make negative comments about the club, its staff and its players. Just like you are.

Mark Robinson admitted he's been critical of Mark Bolton, he then had the cheek to ask him for an interview. Cowardly, maybe not. Hypocritical, absolutely.

Mark Bolton, nor anyone here has the ability to publish their opinion. That doesn't mean we aren't allowed to make it.

if bolts was picked at 34 would he still be on the list?

Bingo.

 

[Crave]

I think Longy 4 13 is acting a bit like a ladies blouse. Robo makes a good point because the cowards he is referring to are those on this forum who are anonymous, and bag Bolton. At least Robo puts his name to everything he writes. Don't forget, the forum gives you the ability to shitcan, not a licence.

And, if I choose to exercise my ability to criticise a player...Im to be labelled a coward due to not having a newspaper column in my name?

 

[ant555]

And, if I choose to exercise my ability to criticise a player...Im to be labelled a coward due to not having a newspaper column in my name?

Not due to not having a newspaper column but more so due to not putting a name to your work
I can understand where Robo is coming from as internet forums are generally a free for all where people can express all sorts of opinions ,good and bad ,without having to put a real name to it.
In all honesty the problem isnt with people not rating player x and giving some sort of reasonable explination for it . It is for the other 50 to 60 percent whole simply call him a f***ing dud or suggest he should be shot etc etc.

 

[Crave]

Not due to not having a newspaper column but more so due to not putting a name to your work
I can understand where Robo is coming from as internet forums are generally a free for all where people can express all sorts of opinions ,good and bad ,without having to put a real name to it.
In all honesty the problem isnt with people not rating player x and giving some sort of reasonable explination for it . It is for the other 50 to 60 percent whole simply call him a f***ing dud or suggest he should be shot etc etc.

Cant argue there. Some sadistic lunatics out there wishing horrible things, all due to an opinion of a player. Disgraceful!

 

[stander]

Not due to not having a newspaper column but more so due to not putting a name to your work
I can understand where Robo is coming from as internet forums are generally a free for all where people can express all sorts of opinions ,good and bad ,without having to put a real name to it.
In all honesty the problem isnt with people not rating player x and giving some sort of reasonable explination for it . It is for the other 50 to 60 percent whole simply call him a f***ing dud or suggest he should be shot etc etc.

I have to hand it to you Oracle- a balanced approach to the whole thread, unlike the fake umbrage expressed by some others.

 

[Longy413]

I have to hand it to you Oracle- a balanced approach to the whole thread, unlike the fake umbrage expressed by some others.

Coward.

 

[foj1]

Bolton is a mediocre footballer who was a poor draft selection with such a high pick. He is a good bloke, who can run well for his size and matches up exceptionally well on goodes. He will not play in a premiership side at Essendon and will most likely be delisted at the end of the year.
Can we have a Bolton free site now?

 

[stander]

Coward.

I won't mention ladies blouse again, even though I'm tempted.

 

[Tony Delaney]

It was a good article, if I had a problem with the article, I would have quoted the whole thing. I took issue to one comment.

Who are you to take issue to the comment you are not even real. And yes you took issue with one quote but we all know the truth is that because it was a pro Bolton article you were going to find something wrong with it.

 

[DaSawx]

Who are you to take issue to the comment you are not even real. And yes you took issue with one quote but we all know the truth is that because it was a pro Bolton article you were going to find something wrong with it.

I've never seen someone so full of shit.

If the exact same thread was started by someone else it would have turned out a lot differently.

The fact is this is a forum to voice ones opinions. Mark Robinson wants to call posters cowards for voicing our opinion on a player who plays for the team we are passionate about as well as admitting to doing it himself at various times.

 

[Vulture_72]

I've never seen someone so full of shit.

If the exact same thread was started by someone else it would have turned out a lot differently.

The fact is this is a forum to voice ones opinions. Mark Robinson wants to call posters cowards for voicing our opinion on a player who plays for the team we are passionate about as well as admitting to doing it himself at various times.

100% correct. Robinson calls us cowards but then admits he has done the same thing in the past. "On supporter websites, he is abused and ridiculed by cowards. I've probably slipped the slipper in too many times myself."

The only reason that Tony Delany disagrees is because the thread was started by Longy. This personal vendetta Tony Delany has with Longy is getting tiresome.

We all no that Bolts was lucky to be picked last week and the only reason he came into consideration was to play on Goodes. Robinson attacks those who feel Bolton should be dropped this week. If Bolton can jump ahead of players pushing for selection because a specific matchup suits him then it isn't unreasonable to suggest that Bolton could be dropped if a match up doesn't suit. But according to Robinson i am being unfair. I wonder if Richard Cole and Campo thought it was fair last week when they had to make way for Bolton.

 

[Longy413]

Bolton is a mediocre footballer who was a poor draft selection with such a high pick. He is a good bloke, who can run well for his size and matches up exceptionally well on goodes. He will not play in a premiership side at Essendon and will most likely be delisted at the end of the year.
Can we have a Bolton free site now?

This wasn't a Mark Bolton thread. But point taken.

I won't mention ladies blouse again, even though I'm tempted.

By all means please do, but by your own reasoning, unless you put up your full name, your passport photo, address, phone number and your shoe size.

You'll be considered a coward.

Who are you to take issue to the comment you are not even real.

On the same reasoning, who are you to take issue with me, if you're not even real. Your contradictions are amusing.

The only reason that Tony Delany disagrees is because the thread was started by Longy. This personal vendetta Tony Delany has with Longy is getting tiresome.

And for that reason, I've blocked him.

I actually enjoy it, but I think for the sake of everyone else on this board, it's better that it ends now.

Good on him, he's entitled to his opinion. That's the great thing about these boards, we have the opportunity to share our opinion on a medium that goes into the homes of thousands.

 

[stander]

By all means please do, but by your own reasoning, unless you put up your full name, your passport photo, address, phone number and your shoe size.

You'll be considered a coward.

It was Robos reasoning to begin with, and I agree with his thinking. He's accountable for everything he writes. Many did not take offence at what he said, we understood what he meant. Maybe we are not precious enough. Thankfully.

You, oh indiganant one, can hide behind your, dare I say it, ladies blouse, and continue to belch offence as much as you like.

 

[Longy413]

It was Robos reasoning to begin with, and I agree with his thinking. He's accountable for everything he writes. Many did not take offence at what he said, we understood what he meant. Maybe we are not precious enough. Thankfully.

The only person he is accountable to is the person who pays his pay cheque.

You, oh indiganant one, can hide behind your, dare I say it, ladies blouse, and continue to belch offence as much as you like.

The contradictions are mindblowing, but I will continue all the same.

 

[Crave]

Im sorry, but Im going to continue backing Longy on this one. The only point he took exception to was the fact that we were to be condemned as cowards for voicing an opinion on a player and anyone who uses BigFooty to voice their disproval or dissappointment towards a player, performance or decision ultimately falls under that banner for the penultimate reason of not identifying themselves. I think its petty to attack someone who virtually justified our right on a public forum to have an opinion first and foremost.

 

[stander]

The only person he is accountable to is the person who pays his pay cheque.



The contradictions are mindblowing, but I will continue all the same.

One is accountable to oneself, first and foremost. Your nemeses, TD and the boss from Moe will be happy about that.

 

[stander]

Im sorry, but Im going to continue backing Longy on this one. The only point he took exception to was the fact that we were to be condemned as cowards for voicing an opinion on a player and anyone who uses BigFooty to voice their disproval or dissappointment towards a player, performance or decision ultimately falls under that banner for the penultimate reason of not identifying themselves. I think its petty to attack someone who virtually justified our right on a public forum to have an opinion first and foremost.

No one is being condemned- Robo has plonked a label on the anonymous critics behind the screens to momentarily pump up Bolton. He's copped a hell of a lot. If you take offence at that, a dreary life is unfolding for you I am afraid.

 

[Longy413]

One is accountable to oneself

And that doesn't change if you use your real name or a username.

 

[Longy413]

No one is being condemned- Robo has plonked a label on the anonymous critics

Of which you are one.

If you take offence at that, a dreary life is unfolding for you I am afraid.

Why would one have to be offended to offer up a discussion point?

That's all this is...

 

[Crave]

No one is being condemned- Robo has plonked a label on the anonymous critics behind the screens to momentarily pump up Bolton. He's copped a hell of a lot. If you take offence at that, a dreary life is unfolding for you I am afraid.

Christ, if you think i took offence to that...

 

[bossco]

What Robbo said was right. We are all anonymous cowards. Yes we are entitled to our opinions and sometimes it is a place where supporters frustrations are vented. But honestly, if we bumped into Bolts/Sheeds/Houli/etc buying their morning paper would we front them and tell them you're hopeless/you should be sacked/you'll never be any good? I wouldn't think so.

 

[Longy413]

What Robbo said was right. We are all anonymous cowards. Yes we are entitled to our opinions and sometimes it is a place where supporters frustrations are vented. But honestly, if we bumped into Bolts/Sheeds/Houli/etc buying their morning paper would we front them and tell them you're hopeless/you should be sacked/you'll never be any good? I wouldn't think so.

No, we wouldn't and nor would Mark Robinson or any other jerno.

The local milkbar isn't a viable medium to air your frustrations/opinion.

I've never seen a jerno tell Kevin Sheedy he should be sacked in a press conference, yet I've seen a number of articles published about it. Does that make them cowards too?

The Internet is a medium to share your opinion to a broader range of people that what wouldn't otherwise be the case. Sharing your opinion doesn't make you a coward, it never has.

Mindlessly slagging off an individual is most definately cowardly, but for the best part, that doesn't happen.

The fact is, for the majority of footy fans, we don't have the opportunity to front Mark Bolton, Kevin Sheedy or anyone else, nor do we have a newspaper column. If that opportunity presented itself, I'm sure a lot would offer their opinion. For the time being however, we have to settle for water cooler/pub talk and footy forums.

 

[marcuz]

What Robbo said was right. We are all anonymous cowards. Yes we are entitled to our opinions and sometimes it is a place where supporters frustrations are vented. But honestly, if we bumped into Bolts/Sheeds/Houli/etc buying their morning paper would we front them and tell them you're hopeless/you should be sacked/you'll never be any good? I wouldn't think so.

Would Bolts lay down a severe beating on us all?

I wouldnt go out of my way to let them know but if i was asked i would have no problems saying what i believe. But that point is moot as i wouldnt be asked anyway because who gives a **** what a 27 year old mechanic who plays some country footy in geelong thinks about an AFL footballer?

As long as there are not stupid personal attacks then people are free to rate the players as they wish. If we can't even do that then we may as well close down all forums.