Deaths at Dreamworld

[Scotland]

Sitting on something that was posted for the first time this morning. OK.

 

[Back One Out]

http://thebelltowertimes.blogspot.com.au/2016/10/mr-dreamworld-expert.html

Why so hostile to people who point fingers of blame at Dreamworld and demand justice?

I would understand if you were a shareholder or if you were related to those in deep shit.

Is it simply a contrarian stance you adopt in these types of threads?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Sitting on something that was posted for the first time this morning. OK.

This thread is for talking about it.

Why does there seem to be so many posters with a vested interest, in trying to silence discussion about it?

We've all seen the conveyor mate....There can be no argument about it being a death-trap.

 

[Keys]

http://thebelltowertimes.blogspot.com.au/2016/10/mr-dreamworld-expert.html

Posted in the comments

Emily says:
October 28, 2016 at 6:12 PM

This sounds more like a Jarryd, than a Sam.

A dollar for the thoughts of a man without a name

 

[Keys]

The question I'd like answered is:

How has no-one ever lodged a concern at any level re OH&S over that conveyor?

Anyone with an ounce of common-sense, who has worked in a heavy industrial environment, could see it's a clear & distinct human hazard.

Who the **** does the safety audits at this joint anyway?

I have no words

Just lol

 

[Scotland]

This thread is for talking about it.

Why does there seem to be so many posters with a vested interest, in trying to silence discussion about it?

We've all seen the conveyor mate....There can be no argument about it being a death-trap.

The article I posted sums up most 'discussion' that has gone on. Armchair experts and conspiracy theories.

The ride has been operating for 30 years. Clearly there is some argument against it being a death trap.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I have no words

Just lol

Ditto.

Keep trying.

 

[Procrastinator35]

The article I posted sums up most 'discussion' that has gone on. Armchair experts and conspiracy theories.

The ride has been operating for 30 years. Clearly there is some argument against it being a death trap.

Sounds to me like the only ones trying to come off as experrts in what is & is not permissable discussion here, is you & the Kaiser, chum.

Hint....I'm not buying it.

 

[JackOutback]

The article I posted sums up most 'discussion' that has gone on. Armchair experts and conspiracy theories.

The ride has been operating for 30 years. Clearly there is some argument against it being a death trap.

That's a terrible argument. You do know what happens to some objects when they get old, yes?

 

[Lebbo73]

The question I'd like answered is:

How has no-one ever lodged a concern at any level re OH&S over that conveyor?

Anyone with an ounce of common-sense, who has worked in a heavy industrial environment, could see it's a clear & distinct human hazard.

Who the **** does the safety audits at this joint anyway?

This is the one thing I do agree with you about. Where I used to work for Mobil Oil they would have never allowed a situation like this to exist. They made us be proactive and look for hazards in the workplace. The conveyor belt was not safe even if a raft couldn't flip. They would of said it is unsafe based on the idiot factor of those who could hop on this ride.

 

[Back One Out]

The article I posted sums up most 'discussion' that has gone on. Armchair experts and conspiracy theories.

The ride has been operating for 30 years. Clearly there is some argument against it being a death trap.

The ride hasn't been operating for 30 years with a faulty pump and low water-level. These problems had arisen only recently. The ride had been closed earlier that day.

The ride was a death trap last Tuesday. Four people died because of a fault with the ride and because of the failure of staff to detect the fault and take evasive action. Those people weren't struck by lightning. They weren't killed because of any idiotic actions of people in the raft in front of them - that raft was empty.

Hopefully, we'll find out exactly why the empty raft was snagged when the investigation has been completed. But we already know the ride was faulty and an accident waiting to happen. Scoff all you want at the "hindsight experts", but that's what hindsight tells us.

 

[Procrastinator35]

This is the one thing I do agree with you about. Where I used to work for Mobil Oil would of never allowed a situation like this to exist. They made us be proactive and look for hazzards in the workplace. The conveyor belt was not safe even if a raft couldn't flip. They would of said it is unsafe based on the idiot factor of those who could hop on this ride.

I worked in foundry's during my student days, doing the w/end shift 6am-6pm for 3 years running.....That was back in the early 90's.

Even then, a conveyor like that would not have been permissible without a safety cage encompassing it....And this one had human cargo passing over & above it.

The one area at which those rubber rafts were most vulnerable & unstable was at the entry & exit points & on top of that conveyor.

It's utterly mind boggling.

 

[Plugger35]

The ride hasn't been operating for 30 years with a faulty pump and low water-level. These problems had arisen only recently. The ride had been closed earlier that day.

The ride was a death trap last Tuesday. Four people died because of a fault with the ride and because of the failure of staff to detect the fault and take evasive action. Those people weren't struck by lightning. They weren't killed because of any idiotic actions of people in the raft in front of them - that raft was empty.

Hopefully, we'll find out exactly why the empty raft was snagged when the investigation has been completed. But we already know the ride was faulty and an accident waiting to happen. Scoff all you want at the "hindsight experts", but that's what hindsight tells us.

Yeah it's not like this just happened out of the blue, it sounded like there were a number of warning signs before this accident that there were problems with the ride so at the very least you would have expected them to be vigilant to look for any other problems but it seems they were asleep at the wheel.

I'll be very surprised if Dreamworld aren't found negligent in some way for this accident. You can tell by the victims families hostility towards Dreamworld that they don't think it was just an unlucky accident and hold them at least partly responsible. I'd feel the same way if I was them, it's just unacceptable.

 

[Back One Out]

Why does there seem to be so many posters with a vested interest, in trying to silence discussion about it?

Apparently it's a big no no for the plebs on Big Footy to express their opinion before we've heard the official verdict. Not sure why that is exactly. Posting our personal opinions on here is not much different to voicing them while drinking a coffee at work or over a few beers. It's certainly less visible than posting in the comments section of a newspaper article or sending a letter to the editor of the daily papers.

I assume the people who are against us doing so have also adopted the same stance on threads about murderers, rapists and pedophiles. Do they tell people to wait until all the evidence is heard; to wait until after the accused are found guilty by the jury?

 

[Firestarter]

Or trade threads.

Subject matters are miles apart but the reliance on bit facts and speculation to fuel a thread is the same.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Apparently it's a big no no for the plebs on Big Footy to express their opinion before we've heard the official verdict. Not sure why that is exactly. Posting our personal opinions on here is not much different to voicing them while drinking a coffee at work or over a few beers. It's certainly less visible than posting in the comments section of a newspaper article or sending a letter to the editor of the daily papers.

I assume the people who are against us doing so have also adopted the same stance on threads about murderers, rapists and pedophiles before all the evidence is heard and told people to chill until after the accused are found guilty by the jury.

The funny thing is: Most of us have been on that ride....It's not like we're engaging in 'blind-supposition' here.

Even those who haven't, have full video evidence of it on you-tube....Doesn't take much to fill in the blanks, of what's taken place here.

That conveyor is one powerful, exposed & dangerous piece of machinery....A veritable human mincer....How was it ignored?

 

[Illinois Nazi]

The funny thing is: Most of us have been on that ride....It's not like we're engaging in 'blind-supposition' here.

Even those who haven't, have full video evidence of it on you-tube....Doesn't take much to fill in the blanks, of what's taken place here.

That conveyor is one powerful, exposed & dangerous piece of machinery....A veritable human mincer....How was it ignored?

If you've been on the ride, why did you ignore it? Why didn't you point out to Dreamworld how unsafe their human mincer was? Why did you go on a ride that was so clearly unsafe?

 

[Procrastinator35]

If you've been on the ride, why did you ignore it? Why didn't you point out to Dreamworld how unsafe their human mincer was? Why did you go on a ride that was so clearly unsafe?

Young, dumb & fulla trust.

The point being Nazi: That could have been any of us.

No one goes to a fun-park expecting to die.

 

[Plugger35]

Maybe Dreamworld should just re-name the ride to The Human Mincer when it re-opens to warn people about the dangers of it.

That should cover them for any liability if any other accidents occur.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

Young, dumb & fulla trust.

The point being Nazi: That could have been any of us.

No one goes to a fun-park expecting to die.

No-one goes to most places expecting to die.

 

[Back One Out]

Or trade threads.

Subject matters are miles apart but the reliance on bit facts and speculation to fuel a thread is the same.

There was an 80 page thread on Big Footy with people speculating about a supposed rape involving two footballers. All sorts of accusations and wild speculation with the accused players' names constantly being mentioned or hinted at. That seemed to be the main function of the thread: somewhere on Big Footy for people to gather and share the identities of the accused before one of the mods could delete their post.

A thorough investigation was completed and no charges were laid. Zero indication that anything had been swept under the rug. No inference that the players "got away" with it.

Doss finally closed the thread after 7 months of innuendo and 378,343 views

Yet here we have a company which is responsible (directly or indirectly) for the mutilation of four people in front of a crowd of onlookers and we're being advised not to speculate; to wait until the investigation is completed before posting our opinions.

 

[Procrastinator35]

No-one goes to most places expecting to die.

Well no. Cept war maybe. Or doing stand-up

 

[Procrastinator35]

Maybe Dreamworld should just re-name the ride to The Human Mincer when it re-opens to warn people about the dangers of it.

That should cover them for any liability if any other accidents occur.

I know you're being facetious, but that's how most of us will now perceive that ride anyways....Stigma well & truly affixed.

Their number 1 priority & concern should always be customer & human safety....Their entire rep depends upon that.

This is a major over-sight from an OH&S perspective.

 

[Feerits Elf]

Who the **** does the safety audits at this joint anyway?

DRA Safety Specialists?

 

[ep2018]

Still shocking that this seemingly innocent ride tore two families apart. and the girl who blames herself because it was her idea to go... heart breaking.

Like you go the fun park and never expect this at all. Dreamword are stuffed I think because it looks like the pump overheating has caused this stuff up. And they had closed the ride earlier because of it. Should have stayed closed and fixed properly.