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Deconstructing the JonBenet Ramsey case - Delphi Murders
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I think Kula is wrong about a few things. She claimed the little wooden sword with Korea on it was used as the garotte handle, but it was Patsys paintbrush. I dont see any Korea on it. unless you can locate it, then it would invalidate her theory, tho that guy still makes people afraid and steer away from mentioning him, well connected. Tho other things about him appear true. All i have is that Kula link i originally posted.
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MS stopped talking about Santa after 20 mins and went on a rabbit hole psychological study about power, prestige, education in regards to infidelity, cheating at things, lying, general ethics. Etc.
When he brings it back to Santa, ill post any tidbits.
He basically started tho saying the Santa whom Benet said was gonna pay her a secret visit is unknown, no one knows who he was. Another cover up possibly, if it was that creepy other estranged son, who a neighbor reported seeing visit Boulder but mistook for JAR
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That woman reporting the tape was from North Carolina was outed as a fake. She wasnt a legal expert, or journalist, she was a regular housewife who spent so much time on the jonbenet case on the old usenet forums, she became famous for it, ended up on tv, magazines, and friends of the Ramseys.
Update....Rod Westmoreland had his case against Undertheradar dropped in court. Lol.
Update....Rod Westmoreland had his case against Undertheradar dropped in court. Lol.
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She was even charging people $50 by mail to gain access to her usenet threads on jonbenet, and demanding people send photos and addresses to prove their identity, but she lied about her name and even sex.
Also, her name was Susan Bennett. Weird how same name as John Bennett Ramsey. She claimed no ties with the family, but she knew tons of personal info about them. Turns out she was a plant. Susan Stine set it up with a person called Barbara Costanyk in Boulder, and Barbara is connected to Susan Bennett, and old neighbor in Boulder
Barbara Constanyk is the person who is the source of the whole supposed JonBenet told people Santa would secretly visit her after Christmas
In other words, it seems that whole angle is another lie by the Stine machine.
Never trust the Ramseys!!! (Thats a gg thought). Deliverate obfuscations.
Also, her name was Susan Bennett. Weird how same name as John Bennett Ramsey. She claimed no ties with the family, but she knew tons of personal info about them. Turns out she was a plant. Susan Stine set it up with a person called Barbara Costanyk in Boulder, and Barbara is connected to Susan Bennett, and old neighbor in Boulder
Barbara Constanyk is the person who is the source of the whole supposed JonBenet told people Santa would secretly visit her after Christmas
In other words, it seems that whole angle is another lie by the Stine machine.
Never trust the Ramseys!!! (Thats a gg thought). Deliverate obfuscations.
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Ransom note....victory SBTC....
Repeating how impossible it is that so many known suspects all had an SBTC linked to them. Its impossible. Meyer SBTC poster. Helgoth SBTC cap. Wolf SBTC tee shirt. Carr SBTC (shelby the conqueror saying he had). John Ramsey SBTC the naval academy he trained at . Patsy SBTC (saved by the cross from his church). Or SBTC southern bell telephone company that (the professor showed) John Ramsey was connected to having previously worked for AT&T
Just too bizarre for MS
Repeating how impossible it is that so many known suspects all had an SBTC linked to them. Its impossible. Meyer SBTC poster. Helgoth SBTC cap. Wolf SBTC tee shirt. Carr SBTC (shelby the conqueror saying he had). John Ramsey SBTC the naval academy he trained at . Patsy SBTC (saved by the cross from his church). Or SBTC southern bell telephone company that (the professor showed) John Ramsey was connected to having previously worked for AT&T
Just too bizarre for MS
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John Ramsey latter claimed SBTC was really SBJC (santa bill and jill claus) the old santa and his wife who played sabtas wife at the christmas party. Reckons Santa Bill fed JonBenet the pinapple.
MS laughing at John's BS. Reckons santa bill was just a nice old man who found joy making kids happy.
MS laughing at John's BS. Reckons santa bill was just a nice old man who found joy making kids happy.
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A weird thing tho....Santa Bills own 9 yo daughter was kidnapped dec 26 1974 along with one of her friends. His daughter said the kidnapper molested her friend not her.
Jill the wife wrote a play about a little girl who was kidnapped and murdered in a basement, and apparently she gave the play to patay one day.
But even tho police did look into santa bill he was cleared on many counts, different dna, alibi, handwriting different, etc etc.
MS still doing due diligence looking into Bill for the show. Some weird things but not really a suspect himself
Jill the wife wrote a play about a little girl who was kidnapped and murdered in a basement, and apparently she gave the play to patay one day.
But even tho police did look into santa bill he was cleared on many counts, different dna, alibi, handwriting different, etc etc.
MS still doing due diligence looking into Bill for the show. Some weird things but not really a suspect himself
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The whole unknown nale dna under benets nails is suspect per MS. The source of that is sus and disputed by another expert, as well as the fallibility of dna testing.
Sounds like that whole Dr Oz tv show was a paid for bs thing to spin innocence for the ramseys.
Many other dna experts say human dna was found in unopened underwear from the ramsey house that benet was found wearing (which was a gift meant for her niece -- the professor) etc....so any dna testing of her underwear claiming it was from the killer is false. Human dna can be there from manufacturing and handling. Also.....the blood drop found on her underwear was JonBenets not an unknown males.
Sounds like that whole Dr Oz tv show was a paid for bs thing to spin innocence for the ramseys.
Many other dna experts say human dna was found in unopened underwear from the ramsey house that benet was found wearing (which was a gift meant for her niece -- the professor) etc....so any dna testing of her underwear claiming it was from the killer is false. Human dna can be there from manufacturing and handling. Also.....the blood drop found on her underwear was JonBenets not an unknown males.
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Then another person said the tv show that promoted male dna in unopened underwear therefore in her underwear is not evidence is wrong because SUPPOSEDLY the dna in her ubderwear was twelve times more of a factor than the unopened underwear.
Then disputed reports that the dna in her underwear was of a caucasian male. It was a lie. All they knew it was a male, not caucasian. That false info got promoted somehow. This is all in reference to the underwear being manufactured in Asia, and how many caucasians are in asian factories.....hence the false promotion of the intruder story, that the killers dna was there in her underwear, and he was caucasian .....all bs, disputed by many tho promoted by others.
Then disputed reports that the dna in her underwear was of a caucasian male. It was a lie. All they knew it was a male, not caucasian. That false info got promoted somehow. This is all in reference to the underwear being manufactured in Asia, and how many caucasians are in asian factories.....hence the false promotion of the intruder story, that the killers dna was there in her underwear, and he was caucasian .....all bs, disputed by many tho promoted by others.
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Police were sus about santa bill tho. They hounded him for years for more dna. Apparently his dna was inconclusive. But he was cleared. People mentioning how santa bill told stories of how he knew lots of "special little friends" who got murdered over many years during christmas. MS how many people had their own daughter kidnapped on xmas, also knew many other murdered kids on xmas who they called special little friend, and who adds another lost one in benet. Someone whose wife also wrote and directed a play about a child kidnapped and murdered in a basement.
A poster called "therakoon" (i saw him posting on the professors forum), MS reads posts by him from reddit where he claims he saw dark web videos of benet or of police investigating santa bill, where what he saw makes him scared for his life, of the grand pedo networks etc.
MS reads an old news article from the 70s about Janet Santa (the wife) who says about her play how shes fascinated by stories of children who are tortured and seek their own path to death.....talking about the Sylvia Likens case from the mid-60s....ive mentioned before how horrific and sad that story is. MS is amazed by the things his wife said there, very weird.
Santa Bill is William McReynolds. His wife Janet McReynolds. Btw.
Police saw Santa bill one day seeing him tie his truck up with what appeared to be the same cord that was used on benet....santa got mad, physically angry, they thought this isn't some old feeble man, so they called in millions of backup cars, a big scene, they took the cord off him, and immediately realized it wasnt the same, and took it to be tested which proved it wasnt the sane cord. Bills son and wife were so angry, stay the hell out of our lives, stop trying to frame us, bill was shattered, crying i never did anything. MS, hes so innocent surely. Another person says its probable they gave a different cord to police.
Another poster says santa bill and accomplice(s) were in a big pedo network (matches "therakoon" story) and they probably drugged benet with the pineapple, which John said he saw him feed benet during the party. But santas accomplice went too far, santa didnt want her dead. Someone says there were 18 cigarette butts outside the butler pantry door.....that sounds like Kulas killer, the estranged son who looks like JAR seen earlier.....he used to stalk Kula and leave dozens of cig butts outside her property. Also talk of red fibers found in benets bed....santas clothes?
A poster called "therakoon" (i saw him posting on the professors forum), MS reads posts by him from reddit where he claims he saw dark web videos of benet or of police investigating santa bill, where what he saw makes him scared for his life, of the grand pedo networks etc.
MS reads an old news article from the 70s about Janet Santa (the wife) who says about her play how shes fascinated by stories of children who are tortured and seek their own path to death.....talking about the Sylvia Likens case from the mid-60s....ive mentioned before how horrific and sad that story is. MS is amazed by the things his wife said there, very weird.
Santa Bill is William McReynolds. His wife Janet McReynolds. Btw.
Police saw Santa bill one day seeing him tie his truck up with what appeared to be the same cord that was used on benet....santa got mad, physically angry, they thought this isn't some old feeble man, so they called in millions of backup cars, a big scene, they took the cord off him, and immediately realized it wasnt the same, and took it to be tested which proved it wasnt the sane cord. Bills son and wife were so angry, stay the hell out of our lives, stop trying to frame us, bill was shattered, crying i never did anything. MS, hes so innocent surely. Another person says its probable they gave a different cord to police.
Another poster says santa bill and accomplice(s) were in a big pedo network (matches "therakoon" story) and they probably drugged benet with the pineapple, which John said he saw him feed benet during the party. But santas accomplice went too far, santa didnt want her dead. Someone says there were 18 cigarette butts outside the butler pantry door.....that sounds like Kulas killer, the estranged son who looks like JAR seen earlier.....he used to stalk Kula and leave dozens of cig butts outside her property. Also talk of red fibers found in benets bed....santas clothes?
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Crazy, sounds like a must watch episode... but at the same time as I said earlier, too many multiple plausible theories they can't all be true or linked surely?
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Possible bill and janet stole those identities in the past. An interview with bills daughter who honestly cant say if true, mightve been long time ago.
Personally wonder why Janet had fascination with Sylvia Likens...was she one of the neighbors who had a go torturing her? If she and bill actually assumed new identities in the distant past.
Bill involved in other child abductions that her and janet enjoyed? Then years later somehow in pedo network with that guy from Kulas story.
Personally wonder why Janet had fascination with Sylvia Likens...was she one of the neighbors who had a go torturing her? If she and bill actually assumed new identities in the distant past.
Bill involved in other child abductions that her and janet enjoyed? Then years later somehow in pedo network with that guy from Kulas story.
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Wow, you need to watch this Santa episode. Its really solid sleuthing/theories. But its not Mibdshocks. Hes reading an extensive theory by a guy called THERAKOON on reddit.
Ive seen that guy post on the professors forum. He has an extensive theory with supporting evidence. Linking Santa to JonBenets murder, the murder of multitudes of kids under 9 yo from the oakland county child killings. And connected with some of the other pedo suspects in the benet case like Wolf, Helgoth, etc.
So i asked him some questions in his Reddit thread.
MSs episode 10 is him reading extensive posts and theories of Therakoons
Ive seen that guy post on the professors forum. He has an extensive theory with supporting evidence. Linking Santa to JonBenets murder, the murder of multitudes of kids under 9 yo from the oakland county child killings. And connected with some of the other pedo suspects in the benet case like Wolf, Helgoth, etc.
So i asked him some questions in his Reddit thread.
MSs episode 10 is him reading extensive posts and theories of Therakoons
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Probably easier to watch ep10 than read therakoons posts yourself. Easier to absorb and follow along. And MS focuses on the highlights.
My running commentary posts dont do the episode justice. 2+ hrs of stuff I cant jot down.
First 20 mins introduces santa theory. Then he goes on an hour or so off topic reading about adultery, psychology of adultery and ethics. Then goes back to Santa. Knocks the theory down initially, paints Santa as a poor old innocent man who just loved to bring happiness to children.
But then about 2 hrs in onward, he delves into Therakoons extensive theory/research, and all the way thru Santa looks worse and worse as it goes on.
MS is never convinced about anything, but this theory floors him. Hes left speechless. Its all utter insanity by Therakoon, he says, or just wow, wow.
Remember, Therakoon reckons he saw dark web videos of benet and/or Bill McReynolds pedo network stuff and is scared but wants to bring it out.
My running commentary posts dont do the episode justice. 2+ hrs of stuff I cant jot down.
First 20 mins introduces santa theory. Then he goes on an hour or so off topic reading about adultery, psychology of adultery and ethics. Then goes back to Santa. Knocks the theory down initially, paints Santa as a poor old innocent man who just loved to bring happiness to children.
But then about 2 hrs in onward, he delves into Therakoons extensive theory/research, and all the way thru Santa looks worse and worse as it goes on.
MS is never convinced about anything, but this theory floors him. Hes left speechless. Its all utter insanity by Therakoon, he says, or just wow, wow.
Remember, Therakoon reckons he saw dark web videos of benet and/or Bill McReynolds pedo network stuff and is scared but wants to bring it out.
