Deeper problems than we know?

[craig crowing]

Don't worry... STO can handle himself!

Yeah but should he or anyone be subjected to that .
anyway that is a hobby horse of mine

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Who was missing? Hodge, Sewell, McEvoy, Whitecross, Stratton... which 3 am I missing?

Lake, Schoenmakers and David Hale

 

[sbenno]

I got your point, you feel he is a strong leader, I replied it happened under his watch (opposition kicking multiple goals/us folding). By "under his watch" I meant his captaincy.

I know the club have banged on about his great leadership skills IMO what has happened on the field indicates (and still does) that we are lacking in this area.

The captain can have some influence before the game and at the breaks but this is where the coaches (we have alot of them) should be doing that. The captains influence should be focused on field where the coaches don't have ready access to the players. Sure the captain may occasionally fire up the team just as they run out (in my experience any player can/has the opportunity to do this)

Fair enough. I think the captain should have a lot of influence in the breaks to help focus and rally the team to get them to do what the coach wants. I'm pretty sure both the coaches and captain would do some talking during the breaks.

As DABM and someone else pointed out vB was in the side last year, so perhaps his effect wouldn't be as big as I think. Still I don't remember us being quite this bad last year, perhaps I have a short memory.

 

[Slippery Pete]

As DABM and someone else pointed out vB was in the side last year, so perhaps his effect wouldn't be as big as I think. Still I don't remember us being quite this bad last year, perhaps I have a short memory.

Not quite this bad.

 

[Tex200]

Sums it up perfectly

Apart from Vince to get 23, don't forget the Polec debacle with players apparently shopped left right and centre

 

[Allefgib]

Fair enough.

The mystery is how you go from a sense of purpose at the 15 min mark of the third - to a sense of futility 5 mins later?

Yup - no doubt that is a mystery. I don't think any single answer really explains it. 'lack of fitness' makes as much sense to me as 'lack of confidence'.

 

[Macca Pakka]

Apart from Vince to get 23, don't forget the Polec debacle with players apparently shopped left right and centre

Yep that wouldn't have helped either. I wonder if we would have been so keen to gain Jarred "good news story" Polec, if we didn't have the backdrop of Tippet-gate?

 

[Slippery Pete]

Apart from Vince to get 23, don't forget the Polec debacle with players apparently shopped left right and centre

Who?

 

[Shamus75]

Yup - no doubt that is a mystery. I don't think any single answer really explains it. 'lack of fitness' makes as much sense to me as 'lack of confidence'.

Single answer - Petrenko playing on from 10m out, missing and sending the ball straight back down the ground for a goal. Could have been within 2 points to 2 minutes later being 13 points and the rot started from there!

 

[Skippy231]

Our lack of confidence comes from our lack of fitness compared to opposition teams

 

[Tex200]

Single answer - Petrenko playing on from 10m out, missing and sending the ball straight back down the ground for a goal. Could have been within 2 points to 2 minutes later being 13 points and the rot started from there!

Simple if it had only happened once. But 3 games ?

 

[maxlilly]

Interesting to hear Mick Malthouse on the radio tonight.

He said the members are the most important people at a football club, because, and I quote "the members vote in the board by ballot ."

We wish.

This is absolutely critical
I feel this is the biggest issue for the club bar none.
With the licence being sold off by the SANFL, the most important thing to happen with the new constitution for the AFC is to give the members the right to vote in a new board, as it is for many of the Melbourne clubs. Make the board accountable.

If this doesn't change, there is very little chance of any improvement in the future for the club

 

[craig crowing]

Lake, Schoenmakers and David Hale

Hale played.

 

[feenix67]

Robust, really. Oh dear, lol

I love an inane comeback from an ill equipped pseudo intellectual.

/golfclap

Sent from my luxury yacht in the Bahamas

 

[Rexx]

Hale played.

I believe McEvoy was an out though

 

[Macca Pakka]

Who?

From memory Wright and Mackay and one would assume Smack.

 

[pjcrows]

We tried to offload McKernan for steak knives and no one took a bite.

 

[rocket18]

Hearing Mick Malthouse last night highlighted how stuffed our club is, he was talking about Carlton and how they are under the spotlight.

He said the members are responsible for voting in/for a new board.

This board is then responsible for hiring someone to run the club - CEO

This CEO is then responsible for hiring the coach/footy department.

Compare that too our inbred boys club where no one is responsible!!

 

[pjcrows]

In SA, our club lived off of 1997/98 for over a decade. Since then we've been close but not consistently good enough, but always "respected" nationally. People are now clicking that we aren't actually that good, both on and off the field, and it's more than just a blip on the radar.

 

[Tex200]

From memory Wright and Mackay and one would assume Smack.

Yep I think these were mentioned in the media - I recall Wrights management coming out strongly that he wasn't moving.

I imagine though that we would have given Brisbane a list of untouchables and everyone else was open

 

[Tex200]

In SA, our club lived off of 1997/98 for over a decade. Since then we've been close but not consistently good enough, but always "respected" nationally. People are now clicking that we aren't actually that good, both on and off the field, and it's more than just a blip on the radar.

True - I'm sick of hearing its only 3 games. It's now only us, Richmond and the Bulldogs who have not played in a GF since 98 ( expansion teams aside)

We have been rubbish for 3 of the past 4 years and 2014 looks like making it 4 out of 5.

 

[Jerome]

Hearing Mick Malthouse last night highlighted how stuffed our club is, he was talking about Carlton and how they are under the spotlight.

He said the members are responsible for voting in/for a new board.

This board is then responsible for hiring someone to run the club - CEO

This CEO is then responsible for hiring the coach/footy department.

Compare that too our inbred boys club where no one is responsible!!

Well done also to Kernahan for putting out a youtube message for the fans stating how unhappy the CFC is with their perfomances. Who from our club has shown some leadership and tried to stop the rot? All we did last week was send out Radar. I dont think anyone has faced the music this week after Saturdays non-effort.

 

[AFC979810]

So people need to decide:

Does offering players for trade (like Vince) hurt morale or does it help us build a better team which will keep stars like Danger. It cannot be both.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Well done also to Kernahan for putting out a youtube message for the fans stating how unhappy the CFC is with their perfomances. Who from our club has shown some leadership and tried to stop the rot? All we did last week was send out Radar. I dont think anyone has faced the music this week after Saturdays non-effort.

Saying that, the club did come out in the media but they just avoided the issue by trying to high lite the Easter Friday game.

 

[manureid]

No thread is complete without his appearance