Review Dees v West Coast Eagles in Perf: the Good, Bad & Fugly - Round 21, 2021

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Lyon is so good for analysis.
Ross Lyon is the best I've ever heard, I listen to him talk about discipline and I wanna play footy for him. He has such a believable charisma and philosophy.
 

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One big fat ugly:

The 90 degree switch kicks from HBF to HBF that crept in. We got away with about three of them that were very near run things. Would much prefer a safer shorter switch in that part of the ground.
 
Bloody Good: Harmes
Just had a look and he only had 54% Time on Ground. To have as much influence as he did in only half a match is unreal. Even VDB had more TOG.
Just on that - the TOG stats include all the time the game was suspended due to lightning. Harmes was on the bench when they went off, so it reads as him missing ~30 minutes of game time due to that.

He was still really good, but played much more than 54%
 
Lyon is great. Leppa is too, maybe ch7 have just started ruining him. Coaches recently out of the game know a hundred times more than the analysts who have been in the media for years, Buckley will be great next year too.
Agree with this. I remember liking Ling in the media for the first couple of years, now he's awful. It's a massive club, the media. Once a commentator starts to get comfortable in their job they tend to phone it in.
 
Just on that - the TOG stats include all the time the game was suspended due to lightning. Harmes was on the bench when they went off, so it reads as him missing ~30 minutes of game time due to that.

He was still really good, but played much more than 54%
How stupid is that. No players were on the ground for that 30 minutes!
 
It occurred to me this is the best home and away that I can remember. 1998 and 2000 were great but we still only had 14 wins in both those seasons. I feel 98 was probably our best crack and 2000 we were 50/50 before we had that incredible run to the gf. I know we were already at 14.5 wins before last night but that doesn't feel much better than 14 wins plus it kind of feels like a loss. Even if we get just one more win would be fantastic and two more would be huge. Despite our losses coming against lower ranked teams it's a great effort to bank these wins.

For the record 1990 we had 16 wins but I was too young to remember that.
1998 was one that I look back at and think that was our best chance. We smashed Adelaide but ran into North that stitched us up. There was a quirk I looked at that we could’ve possibly got the WB in a PF but it wasn’t to be. 1987 we were pretty damn good as well. That was the Stynes man on the Mark incident I think.
 
Ross Lyon is the best I've ever heard, I listen to him talk about discipline and I wanna play footy for him. He has such a believable charisma and philosophy.
He is very practical and knowledgeable. I believe he did a lot of his own personal development with specialists in America. He is extremely well drilled. He did an amazing job with St Kilda and Fremantle. I still shake my head when Saints fans blame him on not winning the flag in 09 & 10 and walking out to coach Fremantle.
 
1998 was one that I look back at and think that was our best chance. We smashed Adelaide but ran into North that stitched us up. There was a quirk I looked at that we could’ve possibly got the WB in a PF but it wasn’t to be. 1987 we were pretty damn good as well. That was the Stynes man on the Mark incident I think.
It was a dumb system no benefit of finishing top 4, we pumped Adelaide and then the saints and then had to play North on a 6 day break. Under current system we would have played North straight up. Geelong dudded the year before finished 2nd and lost to 7th placed North. Had to play Adelaide away.
 
He is very practical and knowledgeable. I believe he did a lot of his own personal development with specialists in America. He is extremely well drilled. He did an amazing job with St Kilda and Fremantle. I still shake my head when Saints fans blame him on not winning the flag in 09 & 10 and walking out to coach Fremantle.
He should be an army general. Even from his interviews I wanna run through a brick wall for him
 

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It was a dumb system no benefit of finishing top 4, we pumped Adelaide and then the saints and then had to play North on a 6 day break. Under current system we would have played North straight up. Geelong dudded the year before finished 2nd and lost to 7th placed North. Had to play Adelaide away.
It was seriously odd. This finals system is the best I feel.
 
Lyon is so good for analysis.
Ross Lyon is the best I've ever heard, I listen to him talk about discipline and I wanna play footy for him. He has such a believable charisma and philosophy.
Undoubtably Lyon is probably the best tactical analyst in the game (Clarkson could lay claim to this as well)

There is a reason that all teams he coaches react well to his systems
 
Ross Lyon is the best I've ever heard, I listen to him talk about discipline and I wanna play footy for him. He has such a believable charisma and philosophy.
Spot on. He's also *en funny on Triple M, would be an absolute pleasure to play for as long as you put in 100% and played the way he wanted.

Collingwood kidding themselves if they aren't seriously considering him.
 
Went to bed angry last night but over that now, going off for lightning with a 33 point lead and the best case scenario being the game getting called off is a pretty tough scenario to come back on and play good footy, and one we're almost definitely never gonna face again.

Good:
Bowey - definitely a player. Pleased to see that even as a midget he looks strong in the contest and can stand up in a tackle. Needs to work on his spoiling if he's going to stay in defence but apart from that and being caught once, really good.
Petty - Been our best defender most weeks since round 10. The most pleasing thing is the way he comes off his man to win a ground ball or make a tackle. Probably stopped 3-4 goal scoring chances doing that last night.
Brown - he's doing his job really nicely at the moment. Deserves to get a dry day and kick a bag.
Jackson - probably my favourite player. Now he's starting to take grabs and compete better in the ruck he's really looking like a threat every time he's near the ball.
Oliver - went missing in the second like the rest of the team but aside from that, my god his ability in close is unbelievable. The play where he controlled the ball one handed with Hutchings hanging off him and then flicked it out the front to Trac was so good.
We looked much more dangerous going forward, probably helps that the weather made intercept marking hard but it's still good progress.
ANB - What a game. Amazing that was the same guy we've seen in 99 other games.
Harmes - Good Harmes. Finished his opportunities, hit targets and used the fend judiciously unlike last week

Bad:
Second quarter. Midfield can't go missing to that extent, it's one thing to lose clearances for a quarter but you can't let them stroll away so easily. Won't get away with quarters that bad in finals.
Goalkicking: Our second half goalkicking stats over the course of the year would be horrendous. Like the Lions last year, I can't see us correcting this and getting it right in finals. It's a problem.
Vanders: Hate to say it but don't want him in the team again. His major (almost only) asset is putting on big hits but all he did yesterday was give away two stupid unnecessary frees.

Ugly:
West Coast booers. Even uglier is the fact that they're like that because the stats consistently show that if they make those noises they get rewarded in the free kick count, as they did last night. The Brayshaw insufficient intent and the May free for not jumping out of Kennedy's way in the last were just ridiculous.
 
1998 was one that I look back at and think that was our best chance. We smashed Adelaide but ran into North that stitched us up. There was a quirk I looked at that we could’ve possibly got the WB in a PF but it wasn’t to be. 1987 we were pretty damn good as well. That was the Stynes man on the Mark incident I think.

In 1998, we would have had to beat North eventually to win the flag and they were a far superior side - they beat us comfortably in the prelim, and then completely choked in the Grand Final. We'll never be afforded that luxury (lol)

Anyway, this year is clearly our best chance for a flag in my 30 years of following the club. Whilst we're demonstrating patches of really good footy I still worry about our abilities under pressure. Finals will show where we really are at. Fortunately, most of the other teams this year all have significant deficiencies as well, there's no real standout for me. If we were up against the Richmond side of the previous two years I'd rate the current team no chance.
 
In 1998, we would have had to beat North eventually to win the flag and they were a far superior side - they beat us comfortably in the prelim, and then completely choked in the Grand Final. We'll never be afforded that luxury (lol)

Anyway, this year is clearly our best chance for a flag in my 30 years of following the club. Whilst we're demonstrating patches of really good footy I still worry about our abilities under pressure. Finals will show where we really are at. Fortunately, most of the other teams this year all have significant deficiencies as well, there's no real standout for me. If we were up against the Richmond side of the previous two years I'd rate the current team no chance.
It’s funny when you look at the scores in the 98 GF; Adelaide were 15.15 and North were 8.22 - both had 30 goes at it
 
UGLY . The confusion surrounding the teams coming off for lightning . I know it's a rarity but * me ,( 30 min , 60 min , check every 10 min . )
. Our team looked slightly bemused when they came back on , understandable but it nearly cost us the game .

Anyway we got the points , and beat those pricks on their own dung heap .
 
Feel inclined to comment coz no one has mentioned it, pretty obvious to me when the players came back on they were in preserve and protect the body from injury mode with a 32 point lead. Completely understandable, * going flat knacker after you've been sitting down for 40 minutes and potentially pinging a hammy or doing a calf at this time of year.

Absolutely im giving them a pass for the final 15 minutes. Nothing to read into it whatsoever, the goal was to get a win, zero *s given about by how much.
 
Feel inclined to comment coz no one has mentioned it, pretty obvious to me when the players came back on they were in preserve and protect the body from injury mode with a 32 point lead. Completely understandable, fu** going flat knacker after you've been sitting down for 40 minutes and potentially pinging a hammy or doing a calf at this time of year.

Absolutely im giving them a pass for the final 15 minutes. Nothing to read into it whatsoever, the goal was to get a win, zero fu**s given about by how much.
My exact thoughts too. No point trying at that point, percentage doesn't matter for us
 

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