List Mgmt. Delisted: Best Wishes to Troy Menzel and Dean Gore

[Huntercrow]

He's a crow supporter.

I think he is an angry Crow supporter.

 

[footy4ever]

Menzel straight to Port. Next showdown kicks 5. You know it'll happen.

 

[Firewalker]

I think he is an angry Crow supporter.

Lee Gaskin isn't a crow or power supporter think he's originally from Canberra, AFL media hired him to cover SA probably due to his impartiality. Like most writing for what in essence is another Victorian media arm he usually ends up doing confirmation pieces or speculation pieces to drag in Victorian readers, didn't used to mind him but found him really reaching in articles this year to fill the AFL Media's quotas.

 

[Bay62]

His fitness when he came to the Crows was atrocious. So far off the mark. Appears to have lifted it a bit but still lacks any real desire to play football. One of those annoying cases.

Take a look at blokes who work their asses off to even get looked at but lack the natural ability. Combine someone like that with Menzel’s ability and you’ve got an absolute jet.

Ah well.

Yes sadly I think it's going to be a case one day of "Hey - didn't you used to be Troy Menzel?"

Come on down the bay Troy - you can help us win a GF...


Or maybe just a final...


Or maybe just a game...

 

[Lawrst]

Lee Gaskin isn't a crow or power supporter think he's originally from Canberra, AFL media hired him to cover SA probably due to his impartiality. Like most writing for what in essence is another Victorian media arm he usually ends up doing confirmation pieces or speculation pieces to drag in Victorian readers, didn't used to mind him but found him really reaching in articles this year to fill the AFL Media's quotas.

Its OK to be wrong

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Menzel is TPP management I reckon. His payout goes on this years, freeing a couple hundred up next year. Indicates we're going to trade I reckon, as we'll be paying a recruit more than a draftee.

Think Wigg stays because of Brodie. CEY gets a year to prove himself. Could maybe see Hunter drop off the rookie list. Not sure about Beech.

I'll be very surprised if we take more than 2 first rounders to the draft.

CEY delisted and then rookie listed IMO

 

[goyoucrows]

So who's getting #32?

Or have we lost all number sentimental value as players who have been given our most respected numbers tend to leave, 32, 23, 6..

 

[feenix67]

CEY delisted and then rookie listed IMO

What happened to the changes to the rookie rules I wonder. Seems to have gone quiet.

 

[Pugsley]

Why on earth would you announce a delisting at the club b'n'f? It's supposed to be a celebration, not a funeral.

They really shouldn't have played Born to be Alive in the background when announcing it.

 

[Pugsley]

This is what I thought.

Yeah I'm expecting Impey to be a star if he winds up at Hawthorn lol

start the car no Jarman don't.

 

[jenny61_99]

So would that be it for delistings? Thommo retired, Lever, Cameron traded, Gore, Menzel delisted. 5 roster spots to fill? Do we have rookies that need to be upgraded?

Sam Shaw has retired too.

 

[dplggr47]

Surprised Wigg and Hunter didn't get the chop. Think Beech and CEY will get a 1-year rookie contract.

 

[Jack is Back]

I thought Menzel looked good against WWT late in the season. I think the problem is that he is not able to play THE MAESTRO's game plan. At the pre GF open training at Adelaide Oval we ran one drill where players had to work their way through a heap of defenders by hand or foot. Menzel kept missing targets and I thought, well that is why he hasn't been given a game. His fitness was OK this year and his intensity and tackling good but he could only play as a high half forward in our structure.

Dean Gore did everything he was asked to do but others in our squad do it better.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Surprised Wigg and Hunter didn't get the chop. Think Beech and CEY will get a 1-year rookie contract.

The delistings aren't over yet. Menzel and Gore are juts the first to go. Expect more to come.

 

[relapse]

Not surprised with Dean Gore, I made the call late last year after seeing him a few times at SANFL level that he was never going to play a game for us.

If anything I would have pulled a 40 year old Robert Shirley (who used to be my number 1 whipping boy) out of retirement and put him in the side long before I would have given Dean Gore a game.

I'm disappointed with Menzel because the talent was there, he just couldn't make the most of his opportunities. A small part of me is worried that this might come back to bite us if he goes to another club.

 

[VKCrow]

So who's getting #32?

Or have we lost all number sentimental value as players who have been given our most respected numbers tend to leave, 32, 23, 6..

All non SA players to be given numbers 53 and above till they prove their allegiance.

 

[hippyhippy]

Im shocked about Menzel especially with Cameron gone.

 

[Huntercrow]

Just to recap...Dangerfield and pick 50 traded to Geelong for Gore, Pick 9 and 28.

Gore came with big wraps. I remember seeing his introduction to the squad on the Crows website and the reaction from the players was very encouraging but as we waited to see his potential to alleviate the loss of Dangerfield it eventually became obvious....we had been done over. Todays delisting has confirmed our eagerness to get that trade completed quickly really didn't bear fruit. Someone please remind me why we didn't push harder! Our only other trades that year were for Hampton and Seedsman who each had absolutely nothing to do with the Dangerfield trade.
Oh! there was one other......

Troy Menzel.....(Sam Kerridge and pick 28 from Geelong)...He had his chances to break into the team this year but showed little if anything. He was even more disappointing than Gore considering his early career with Carlton and those glimpses of brilliance during last season's SANFL finals.

So our last hope to finally get something back at Geelong rests with Milera (their pick 9)! But his progress has not been as expected. His career is mirroring Menzel to some degree. He looks to have loads of talent but struggles to produce. in fact his performances this year were less than inspiring IMO.

Here's hoping Milera finally gets that he is good enough for AFL in 2018 and makes us forget about that ordinary trade deal.

 

[Odog]

Wigg a chance to land at Gold Coast according to a relative of his


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[ad victoriam]

Im shocked about Menzel especially with Cameron gone.

Reckon Ben Jarman, Gallucci and Signorello last few weeks show the Crows they were covered in that area.

 

[dplggr47]

Wigg a chance to land at Gold Coast according to a relative of his
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Probably as a delisted free agent. Can't see us getting anything of value for him and we should let him go for more opportunity.

 

[LoBu]

Menzel being paid even close to what the rest of our SANFL players are on would still be in our squad, Menzel on

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[whattagun07]

Boy was I wrong about Troy Menzel

 

[1970crow]

Nothing wrong with rookie pick players

Still though, Gore just seemed like a player that did everything right but just didn't have the tools to separate himself from the pack, didn't help we started prioritising speed as well.

His speed was one of his elite attributes at combine testing from memory.

 

[1970crow]

We always announce this after the B&F. The iming this time around is off a bit. Why couldn’t we wait until Monday? Why do it a day after the B&F?! Not a hangable offense but maybe hold off a bit given the crap we are copped from everywhere.

Back in the days we announced delistings after the trade period. Now we do it before it even starts.

Once it's clear that nobody is interested in trading for the player I don't see the point in waiting.