Delisting mega thread 2024!!

[Caracas]

And then there is biggie whos ceiling is likely below all 3. Think he has another year to run but sheesh he would want to develop. Laz has had ample time to show he doesnt have any higher ceiling. Poor bugger tries his ass of though.

It’s a pity really because Pink, Teakle and Biggie all present as good solid characters, who will give their hearts and souls for our cause. It grates when I find myself knocking them. Imagine Stevo if he had their qualities!

 

[The Nostradamus]

Yeah probably has to be
I’d be happy just taking our first and second pick and upgrading Dawson

Maybe trade in 1 player

Thus only needing 4 senior list spots (delist pink, greenwood plus trade Scott)

Just an adjustment on this
So apparently we started the year with 37 senior list and 7 rookies (sellers, Maley, Drury, shiels, RHJ, Dawson and Free)
Added 2 more rookies msd

We can go up to 38 on the senior list eg (38-6)
So by getting rid of TT plus the above 3 senior list changes and the additional senior list spot actually gives us 5 senior list spots

Eg 2-3 picks plus upgrade Dawson and bring in 1 player

and culling shiels, Drury and RHJ off the rookie list

 

[koshari]

It’s a pity really because Pink, Teakle and Biggie all present as good solid characters, who will give their hearts and soul for our cause. It grates when I find myself nocking them. Imagine Stevo if he had their qualities!

Which is why i would be pissing sleevo off at the earliest possible time. At least the others appear to be putting in the effort, laz , drury and robbieJr as well. But exposed talent definitely has value which is why we likely keep sausage but with sleevo he has frittered away his credits. Delisting free may buy treakle some time.

 

[Caracas]

Which is why i would be pissing sleevo off at the earliest possible time. At least the others appear to be putting in the effort, laz , drury and robbieJr as well. But exposed talent definitely has value which is why we likely keep sausage but with sleevo he has frittered away his credits. Delisting free may buy treakle some time.

It’s hard to know with Sleevo, though. I guess the club are just exploring ways of getting the best out of him. It’s not that he’s not trying. It’s just the apparent clueless brain fades. I don’t need him to be a “hard at it bull”. I’d settle for more consistency and keeping his head in the game. He does have qualities that are rare enough. I’m OK with giving him a bit of rope. The VFL team is there after all to enable him to work on his shortcomings.

 

[koshari]

It’s hard to know with Sleevo, though. I guess the club are just exploring ways of getting the best out of him. It’s not that he’s not trying. It’s just the apparent clueless brain fades. I don’t need him to be a “hard at it bull”. I’d settle for more consistency and keeping his head in the game. He does have qualities that are rare enough. I’m OK with giving him a bit of rope. The VFL team is there after all to enable him to work on his shortcomings.

Whatever transpires iam sure clarko and viney will strike the right balance.

 

[Only Forwards]

Biggie needs to harden up. If he can do that then he can make it as a player.

I don't see it with him.

From where we are currently I am doubtful he plays AFL again with those in front of him.

He is on the list for another year.

If push came to shove with list spots I would pay him out.

 

[King Corey]

Departures: (prediction not preference)

Greenwood (Retire)
Lazarro
Nuyon
Thomas
Shiels (Retire)
Sellers R
Free R

TBC - Club would like to retain them:

Scott
Zurhaar

TBC - Form will dictate

RHJ
Drury
Taylor (looking more likely to stay)
Harvey

4-5 off the main list.

 

[ferball]

Departures: (prediction not preference)

Greenwood (Retire)
Lazarro
Nuyon
Thomas
Shiels (Retire)
Sellers R
Free R

TBC - Club would like to retain them:

Scott
Zurhaar

TBC - Form will dictate

RHJ
Drury
Taylor (looking more likely to stay)
Harvey

4-5 off the main list.

Why would the club dump Sellers so quickly?

 

[King Corey]

Why would the club dump Sellers so quickly?

I think they've had a look at him and assessed he's not in their plans.

Not saying I agree with that just gut feel on what will happen.

 

[Its a Process]

UPDATE

It's been a big 6 weeks since my previous attempt at this. Updated thoughts are:

My thoughts:
Delist and relist as a rookie
J Stephenson
C Coleman Jones

Delist
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood

1

Hugh Greenwood

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

6.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

8.9

5star

CL

5.6

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

7.6

5star

CL

4.4

5star

- I would love him to stay on as captain of the VFL, he is phenomenal for the young blokes.
Tarryn Thomas

26

Tarryn Thomas

Age

25

Ht

190cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.2

4star

CL

0.2

2star

D

12.8

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

0.4

3star

Liam Shiels

14

Liam Shiels

Age

34

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.2

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

3.4

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.8

5star

Charlie Lazzaro - I would delist him and re-rookie him if he wasn't picked up elsewhere.
Blake Drury - I could contemplate leaving him on a rookie list for another year depending on what/who else is available

Free Agent/Trade
Cameron Zurhaar

44

Cameron Zurhaar

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

9.7

2star

K

5.9

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

- Looks like he is testing the market, depending on what we get we match if its not an early first round pick and force a trade if he chooses to leave

Retain
Bailey Scott

8

Bailey Scott

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.9

3star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.8

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

CL

0.6

3star

- Offer 3 year deal, last 3 weeks has shown his still the best winger we have on our list by a considerable margin and we need to retain him.
Brayden George - 2 year deal (I'd still give him 2 years and i'd do it now as a show of faith)
Will Phillips - 2 year deal, could see him becoming an excellent run with player who can also get his own ball.
Eddie Ford - 2 year deal,
Jackson Archer - 2 year offer
Kal Dawson - 2 year offer
Toby Pink - 1 year deal, offers depth and tries and offers list flexability
Tyler Sellers - 1 year deal, worth another year in an area we are at our most weak
Finnbar Maley - 1 year deal, see above
Cooper Harvey - 1 year deal, I think there is something there and want to see him get a clear run at it
Robert Hansen - If his form continues definitely a 1 year deal with triggers, it's our biggest list hole.
Curtis Taylor

5

Curtis Taylor

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

- I had him out the door but his last 3 weeks has me offering him a 1 year deal.

I think that this would open up 5 spots on the main list and a couple on the rookie list.

 

[koshari]

Why would the club dump Sellers so quickly?

Because he hasnt shown a lot?

 

[Frank Thring]

I don't see it with him.

From where we are currently I am doubtful he plays AFL again with those in front of him.

He is on the list for another year.

If push came to shove with list spots I would pay him out.

Signed for one year didn't he?

 

[koshari]

Signed for one year didn't he?

I thought it was 2 off the bat.

 

[Frank Thring]

I thought it was 2 off the bat.

You may be right, for some reason I thought it was 1

 

[perplexed]

UPDATE

It's been a big 6 weeks since my previous attempt at this. Updated thoughts are:

My thoughts:
Delist and relist as a rookie
J Stephenson
C Coleman Jones

Delist
Hamish Free
Hugh Greenwood - I would love him to stay on as captain of the VFL, he is phenomenal for the young blokes.
Tarryn Thomas
Liam Shiels
Charlie Lazzaro - I would delist him and re-rookie him if he wasn't picked up elsewhere.
Blake Drury - I could contemplate leaving him on a rookie list for another year depending on what/who else is available

Free Agent/Trade
Cameron Zurhaar - Looks like he is testing the market, depending on what we get we match if its not an early first round pick and force a trade if he chooses to leave

Retain
Bailey Scott - Offer 3 year deal, last 3 weeks has shown his still the best winger we have on our list by a considerable margin and we need to retain him.
Brayden George - 2 year deal (I'd still give him 2 years and i'd do it now as a show of faith)
Will Phillips - 2 year deal, could see him becoming an excellent run with player who can also get his own ball.
Eddie Ford - 2 year deal,
Jackson Archer - 2 year offer
Kal Dawson - 2 year offer
Toby Pink - 1 year deal, offers depth and tries and offers list flexability
Tyler Sellers - 1 year deal, worth another year in an area we are at our most weak
Finnbar Maley - 1 year deal, see above
Cooper Harvey - 1 year deal, I think there is something there and want to see him get a clear run at it
Robert Hansen - If his form continues definitely a 1 year deal with triggers, it's our biggest list hole.
Curtis Taylor - I had him out the door but his last 3 weeks has me offering him a 1 year deal.

I think that this would open up 5 spots on the main list and a couple on the rookie list.

I think your numbers are a bit out of whack, especially if we lose our extra rookie spots.

We currently have 46 players on our two lists because of the two MSD picks. We need to get this back to 42 when we lose those spots - which I expect we will. But even if we don't, you will need to find a player or two to delist (and not re-rookie) if you want to open up five spots.

 

[ferball]

Because he hasnt shown a lot?

Either did Larkey at a similar point in his career. Sellers is averaging nearly 2.5 goals a game in the VFL and our VFL side has been very inconsistent.

 

[koshari]

Either did Larkey at a similar point in his career. Sellers is averaging nearly 2.5 goals a game in the VFL and our VFL side has been very inconsistent.

Agree. Was just posting the obvious reason if he were to be cut.

 

[Only Forwards]

I’d give Sellers a look in before the end of the year with Larkey and Teakle where Sellers in third banana.

We’d probably get a better understanding of what he’s actually capable of at the level without throwing him directly in the to fire the way we did.

 

[The acurate one]

Well as we darn well say 3 weeks is a long time in footy.

1. Archer- done enough to get a new deal. Happy for him and us.
2. Taylor - looked odds on to go, would suggest he's back and gets another shot at it.
3. Pink - no harm done if he stays.
4. Phillips - most thought he'd go, of his own doing, but now has a role and a place in the side.
5. Hansen Jnr - starting to show a bit. Not upset if he stays, may leave of his own accord.

Probably a couple lucky to be contracted as I honestly think they'd be gone.

1. Stephenson
2. CCJ
3. Biggy ( R)

So now we have delisting's from the below

1. Lazzaro - could be considered unlucky, and suffers from the above 3 taking list spots
2. Free- if he wasn't done, Teakle has made it a certainty
3. Drury - oh well
4. Bergman - as above, been around abit and hasn't come close to cementing his place.
5. Shiels
6.Greenwood.
7. Thomas

We have currently 3 draft picks that we'll definitely use. So If we took 3 picks or 4.
Gone
1. Thomas
2. Free ( R)
3. Drury (R)
4. Greenwood ( retired)
5. Shiels ( retired)

It may well be a calm end of year, and fyi that isn't a bad thing. But everyone understands that.

I think we will look back on 2024 as the season we turned the first corner.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Fwiw we don’t have to use 3 picks can just use the first 2 picks and upgrade dawson

Which I could see happening seeing as we’ve passed on picks in the 40s over the last few years

 

[The acurate one]

Fwiw we don’t have to use 3 picks can just use the first 2 picks and upgrade dawson

Which I could see happening seeing as we’ve passed on picks in the 40s over the last few years

Yeah thats true and I suppose we've gone from losing 10 to debating it may well be as low as 2/3.

 

[muttley45]

Well as we darn well say 3 weeks is a long time in footy.

1. Archer- done enough to get a new deal. Happy for him and us.
2. Taylor - looked odds on to go, would suggest he's back and gets another shot at it.
3. Pink - no harm done if he stays.
4. Phillips - most thought he'd go, of his own doing, but now has a role and a place in the side.
5. Hansen Jnr - starting to show a bit. Not upset if he stays, may leave of his own accord.

Probably a couple lucky to be contracted as I honestly think they'd be gone.

1. Stephenson
2. CCJ
3. Biggy ( R)

So now we have delisting's from the below

1. Lazzaro - could be considered unlucky, and suffers from the above 3 taking list spots
2. Free- if he wasn't done, Teakle has made it a certainty
3. Drury - oh well
4. Bergman - as above, been around abit and hasn't come close to cementing his place.
5. Shiels
6.Greenwood.
7. Thomas

We have currently 3 draft picks that we'll definitely use. So If we took 3 picks or 4.
Gone
1. Thomas
2. Free ( R)
3. Drury (R)
4. Greenwood ( retired)
5. Shiels ( retired)

It may well be a calm end of year, and fyi that isn't a bad thing. But everyone understands that.

I think we will look back on 2024 as the season we turned the first corner.

Pretty much agree with all of that except Bergman, injuries have stalled his progress so far, has plenty of room for development with a bit of continuity and luck with injury, i would persist with him.

 

[Makeshift Park]

4. Bergman - as above, been around abit and hasn't come close to cementing his place.

 

[hellas_johnny]

Bergman still has 1 more year

 

[The acurate one]

Pretty much agree with all of that except Bergman, injuries have stalled his progress so far, has plenty of room for development with a bit of continuity and luck with injury, i would persist with him.

I just meant he was someone who you’d look at and discuss.
And my final list didn’t include him