Demetriou vs Gil

[sprockets]

Oh no I'll respond if I see a reason to.

1590 posts in 2 months says you're right.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

1590 posts in 2 months says you're right.

So is a couple of thou over 14 years better? I've never really thought about it.

 

[The 747]

To use a Bobby Heenan quote like comparing softball to the New York Yankees. Gill is not a leader.

 

[Byrons Firen]

The wheels seem to be coming off a bit, a couple of years ago it was all smiles

Thats because it's all Gilligan's got. 2X his severance payment to let him know he's worth more out of the job than in it.
Put simply the man is out of his depth.

 

[mick500]

Both are stooges imo for totally different reasons.

Demetriou - Classic CEO pig eating out of the trough. Money the only thing that mattered to him. Profits. Worst 2 expansion clubs in terms of members, forget off field performance, these clubs are a burden on the AFL and will be for decades to come. Never should have happened, except the AFL under Demetriou saw the opprtunity for $$$ in a new market instead of rewarding a football following state in Tasmania.

Gil - Spineless. Bows to media pressure, unfit for the job. Just look at the way Hawkins was told by the AFL before the "tribunal hearing" it would be 2 weeks if appealed, why even bother having the hearing if the AFL have guaranteed a 1 week suspension? and now appealing the curnow fines due to media pressure. If the media didn't care it would have slipped through to the keeper.

2 terrible CEOs.

 

[mario bortallotto]

the governance and media in general of the game has been pretty sad the last couple years.....its like its being big brother hijacked and getting slimier by the month .. demetriou for me , made mistakes but over the journey ok ..

 

[Unagi Don]

Both campaigners.

Gil just a bigger one.

The day Jono Brown gets the gig, it'll be a great day for footy.

As this video attests, Big Jono knows a thing or two about sacrifice. Exactly the kind of leader the AFL is crying out for.

For us mere mortals it would be nigh on impossible to manage the demands of the AFL CEO position while also presenting high-brow morning radio and being the 2018 Brisbane Lions leading goal kicker; not JB though.

 

[TheFVK]

Demetriou for all his faults actually was a CEO of the league. He'd tell the clubs to gagf when he needed to whereas Gillon is a puppet and a spineless prick.

Just this.

Gil's approach to the ex-Bomber PAFC players (Monfries and Ryder) said it all.

1. Announces the Bombers are allowed to replace their banned players with top-ups
2. Port ask for the same. Note Monfries came to the club before the drug saga went public.
3. Gil says "let's ask the other clubs".
4. The clubs, aka Port's direct competitors predictably say no, as any sane club would.

It's not that he said no, it's that he was too jellyfish-spined to make the decision himself and instead hid behind the clubs' decision. The ultimate people pleaser, who ultimately pleases noone.

Demetriou was great, strong and decisive. Gil epitomizes the boys' club approach which has beset the entire football media, commentary and industry and has led to the game being run as bafflingly bad as it is now.

 

[blaisee]

Just this.

Gil's approach to the ex-Bomber PAFC players (Monfries and Ryder) said it all.

1. Announces the Bombers are allowed to replace their banned players with top-ups
2. Port ask for the same. Note Monfries came to the club before the drug saga went public.
3. Gil says "let's ask the other clubs".
4. The clubs, aka Port's direct competitors predictably say no, as any sane club would.

It's not that he said no, it's that he was too jellyfish-spined to make the decision himself and instead hid behind the clubs' decision. The ultimate people pleaser, who ultimately pleases noone.

Demetriou was great, strong and decisive. Gil epitomizes the boys' club approach which has beset the entire football media, commentary and industry and has led to the game being run as bafflingly bad as it is now.

Gil is just a suit. An administrator, paper shuffler that wants to be everyone mate and is chairman of the PC police. He is completely out of his depth, and is in way over his head.

Vlad could not GAF about what people thought of him, he made decisions, and had real vision and was a leader.

One is liked by everyone in the industry, and the other was respected.

As Gils tenure continues, Vlad will just keep on looking more and more superior to his succesor.

 

[mehow2g]

Same bobble heads under the same authority.

The beauty of a CEO is that you get rid of them when s**t hits the fan, gives a sense of hope to people, similar to Prime Ministers I guess.

 

[ScoobySnacks]

i'm rapidly losing faith in Gil and would rather Andy D.

atleast under Andy D clubs had a fighting chance, on-field equalization measures were working. you would bottom out then rebuild through the draft.

under Gil its gone backwards at a rate of knots. the killer stats is there are 7 sides that have properly bottomed out, of those only 2 have played finals (WB and GWS), 1 went onto win it. GWS had considerable concessions. the rest have all remained in the bottom half of the ladder and don't look like getting out of there anytime soon.

in that case Andy D would implement change and read the riot act to the clubs whinging to maintain their position that change had to come

under Gil you get all these media leaks about proposed change but really no change ever comes, you're still left to languish down the bottom of the ladder

hence QLD football looks near death attendance and tv ratings wide. st kilda and carlton fans are just about fed up and ready to riot. GWS look like they could be in serious strife when they fall away.

Gil has the very real possibility of being the face of a wheeling and dealing AFL that see's serious issues swept under the carpet. his hush money comments could come back to bite him in the ass. personally it's getting near the point where he either shits or gets off the pot in terms of driving the league forward.

oh and his clarkson meeting where they discussed the umpiring of the side clarkson coached. just after kennet hosted a small part of presidents to maintain the position of the big powerful victorian clubs. man, thats a super bad look.

I’m sorry, but there needs to be some level of responsibility on the clubs for most of what you said there.

Not every rebuild is going to be successful, and the clubs need to take onus for that fact. If they don’t get it right, they can’t turn to the AFL and whinge, they just need to go back to the well and give it another shot. Priority picks should be given out in extreme circumstances, but there are lots of other ways clubs can recruit talent than just high draft picks, and development is a whole other kettle of fish.

Likewise clubs that can’t manage their finances need to stop continually looking to the AFL for assistance. If they can’t function in a profitable manner over the long term without continual AFL support, maybe they need to fold or be relocated. My club was staring down the barrel just over 20 years ago and we turned it around.

Don’t blame Gil for all your team’s shortcomings.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

Vlad was far better

the 2057 MCG deal Gil did recently was so Victoria-centric it beggars belief, he's lost me.

 

[Firestarter]

Would I rather be kicked in the nuts or have a crab latch itself onto my privates...

 

[BG32]

 

[Dank Academy]

There's a fair bit of selective memory filtering through here... remember when the Swans were banned from recruiting players because 'COLA' (which was already being phased out) ... but certainly not because they took Buddy from GWS.

Remember when Melbourne were cleared of tanking, but the late Dean Bailey was penalised for 'acting in a manner prejudicial to the interests of the competition'... and was banned from his new role as an Adelaide assistant coach for 16 weeks of the season, punishing AFC, not Melbourne?

 

[Billy ray]

Demetriou has the weight advantage

Gil has the extra reach

If the big greek lands one, its done.
The greek within 6 rounds.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Gil is just another version of CA's Sutherland - an upper class twit.

He's the AFL equivalent of entitled inbred Ally Downer.

Demetriou has been the only AFL/VFL CEO worth a crumpet.

 

[Freomaniac]

they are both Horrible leaders