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The acurate one

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In my darkest of dark days and it's kind of funny the virus probably hasn't had the impact on me as it has for others. My sh*t was mine and no one could really share that, The virus, well we're all brothers and sisters in arms. There's safety in numbers I feel:) As long as we keep 1.5 metres apart ffs!!

But during those dark days/nights there's a band I listened to. Now I'm no music connoisseur and yeah I just felt I needed to give a shout out to Sons of the East.

From their cover of Drakes hold on; fyi x100 better than the original through to Whiskey & Wine. A brilliant band that at least from youtube views is truly a shinboner act.... under valued. Fairly popular in South America & Europe- go figure.

Do yourselves a favour during these tumultuous times and give the Sons of the East a listen. If you know of them, back me the fu** up :)

🙏
 
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The acurate one

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Oh turn it the fu** right up!!! :thumbsu:

Must admit I gave, 'my repair' a workout :rolleyes: Come away is also awesome . Into the sun , is as good as it gets imo of course.
 
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Cyber_punk

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Do you have access to another specialist?

Can your current specialist give you specific reasons as to why they think you'll be okay?

Because if they can't I'd be seeing someone else.

You might have to give your mum head massages in the areas where the muscles get too tight. That might provide a little relief.
I ended up finding a certificate emailed to me after telling him that the government's own websites on Covid listed people as myself as vulnerable. I don't know if he was playing dumb or just really misinformed. Never had any issues with him before but finding a referral to another specialist should be easy if I needed to.

Re mum it's something in her brain due to mini strokes, so sadly massages probably wouldn't do anything. There's a private clinic that so far is still doing them so that's the likely option at this point.
 

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I ended up finding a certificate emailed to me after telling him that the government's own websites on Covid listed people as myself as vulnerable. I don't know if he was playing dumb or just really misinformed. Never had any issues with him before but finding a referral to another specialist should be easy if I needed to.

Re mum it's something in her brain due to mini strokes, so sadly massages probably wouldn't do anything. There's a private clinic that so far is still doing them so that's the likely option at this point.
Sorry to hear about your mum. Are the ongoing mini strokes associated with vascular dementia? My dad had that after a major stroke. It was a hard road.

I know of people who use, well are prescribed Botox as a treatment for migraines and its associated with muscular tension in their head and neck so I was assuming it was the same with your mum. The Botox stops the muscles contracting and that eases the tension and vascular constriction apparently.

It stuck in my mind because beforehand I thought Botox was only a cosmetic thing.
 

Cyber_punk

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Sorry to hear about your mum. Are the ongoing mini strokes associated with vascular dementia? My dad had that after a major stroke. It was a hard road.

I know of people who use, well are prescribed Botox as a treatment for migraines and its associated with muscular tension in their head and neck so I was assuming it was the same with your mum. The Botox stops the muscles contracting and that eases the tension and vascular constriction apparently.

It stuck in my mind because beforehand I thought Botox was only a cosmetic thing.
Thanks, no I don't believe they are. Doctors have never mentioned that at least anyway. Sorry about your dad. Did he eventually improve?

Ah ok. I'm not too well versed with it. Yeah most people would think of cosmetic stuff when they hear about botox. She has Gastroparesis too which is probably more challenging because of the dietary restricitons and fight to keep weight on.
 

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Nah. He didn't. It was an ongoing series of little bleeds in the brain.

He got worse over about 8 to 10 years. He was pretty old tho.
 

ferball

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My old man was in hospital for three months after his stroke.

It must have been worse than yours. And he was still fine till he was in his 70s.

You can take steps to prevent it.

Keep your blood pressure in a healthy range, don't smoke, get good exercise, don't get diabetes or do what you have to to control it and keep your cholesterol in a healthy range. Have a good balance of the right sort of cholesterol as well.
 

The acurate one

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Sorry to hear that buddy. Yeah it sounds much worse, as I say I got lucky because it cleared itself in a split second, was enough time for me to grab the counter and not go arse over tit. I'm like a gutted rabbit and do exercise and haven't cholesterol issues. My carotid's are fine, my hearts in good, and my blood pressure is a tad low. My Doc wants that to go up....

Funny story I met the most amazing 44 yr old Maurican woman, omg! Wow stunning and a naughty girl, speaks French to me and that's such a waste as I struggle with English. My blood pressure is definitely improving. Hey I deserved a break, after all that I've been through.

My issues were stress related and everyone on here should use that as a warning. manage your stress and work on being centred.
 

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In my darkest of dark days and it's kind of funny the virus probably hasn't had the impact on me as it has for others. My sh*t was mine and no one could really share that, The virus, well we're all brothers and sisters in arms. There's safety in numbers I feel:) As long as we keep 1.5 metres apart ffs!!

But during those dark days/nights there's a band I listened to. Now I'm no music connoisseur and yeah I just felt I needed to give a shout out to Sons of the East.

From their cover of Drakes hold on; fyi x100 better than the original through to Whiskey & Wine. A brilliant band that at least from youtube views is truly a shinboner act.... under valued. Fairly popular in South America & Europe- go figure.

Do yourselves a favour during these tumultuous times and give the Sons of the East a listen. If you know of them, back me the fu** up :)

🙏
“kind of funny the virus probably hasn't had the impact on me as it has for others”

Same here mate. It’s strange. I’m always on guard for no reason so when there’s an actual threat I feel relaxed because I can focus on it. Bit backwards tbh.
 

ferball

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Same here mate. It’s strange. I’m always on guard for no reason so when there’s an actual threat I feel relaxed because I can focus on it. Bit backwards tbh.
I get that too. You don't have to worry about what might get you when what can get you is right there in front of you demanding your attention.
 

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I came across this today.


This is the whole thing. (I left the copyright attribution but by my reckoning in these circumstances this is fair use.)




Admiral Jim Stockdale was the highest-ranking military officer in the Hanoi Hilton. He was there for, I think, seven years, from 1968 to 1974. He was tortured over twenty times. And by his own account, Stockdale came out of the prison camp even stronger than he went in.
In preparation for a day I got to spend with Jim Stockdale, I read his book In Love and War. As I read this book, I found myself getting depressed because it seemed like his systemic constraints were so severe, and there was never going to be any end to it. His captors could come in any day and torture him. He had no sense of whether, or if, he would ever get out of the prison camp. Absolutely depressing situation. It’s like we can all survive anything as long as we know it will come to an end, we know when, and we have a sense of control. He had none of that.
Then all of a sudden it dawned on me, “Wait a minute, I’m getting depressed reading this book, and I know the end of the story. I know he gets out. I know he reunites with his family. I know he becomes a national hero. And I even know that we’re going to have lunch on the beautiful Stanford campus on Monday. How did he not let those oppressive circumstances beat him down? How did he not get depressed?” And I asked him.
He said, “Well, you have to understand, it was never depressing. Because despite all those circumstances, I never ever wavered in my absolute faith that not only would I prevail—get out of this—but I would also prevail by turning it into the defining event of my life that would make me a stronger and better person. Not only that, Jim, you realize I’m the lucky one.”
I said, “No, I don’t.”
He said, “Yes, because I know the answer to how I would do, and you never will.”
A little later in the conversation, after I’d absorbed that and said nothing for about five minutes because I was just stunned, I asked him who didn’t make it out of those systemic circumstances as well as he had.
He said, “Oh, it’s easy. I can tell you who didn’t make it out. It was the optimists.”
And I said, “I’m really confused, Admiral Stockdale.”
He said, “The optimists. Yes. They were the ones who always said, ‘We’re going to be out by Christmas.’ Christmas would come and it would go. And there would be another Christmas. And they died of a broken heart.” Then he grabbed me by the shoulders and he said, “This is what I learned from those years in the prison camp, where all those constraints just were oppressive. You must never ever ever confuse, on the one hand, the need for absolute, unwavering faith that you can prevail despite those constraints with, on the other hand, the need for the discipline to begin by confronting the brutal facts, whatever they are. We’re not getting out of here by Christmas.”
Copyright © 2017 Jim Collins, All rights reserved.
 

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Covid. Lockdown. Trump. Dead police. No footy.

World is a sh*t place alotta the time. Thanks you bastard's for keeping me and others sane.
Sounds like a Billy Joel song.
Good stuff is still happening. I just had my first Anzac Day morning with my best little mate, and as a former soldier, this day becomes more important to me One of my best friends had a son yesterday, she has other kids, but her new man now has a son. Thats bloody special. And 2 days ago I had a kick of the footy with a young lady who was hoping to get drafted by NMFC.
 

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Tis a wonderful thread , full of misery , hope and sincere best wishes .

How you f***ers going now that there’s light at the end of the train tracks ?

Has been a hell of a ride for us all.
thanks again for not judging but just being there . It means a lot to a lot of people .🙏

Anyway best go as I’m expecting a call from Ms Meghan Markle, long story .

But on behalf of everyone who’s suffered or is suffering . Thanks you crazy pack of bastards ❤
 

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Just checking in to see how everyone is going following this ongoing covid crisis and the haunting protests overseas.

I know I am mentally exhausted by all the various videos, especially that David Dorn video, and the potential fallout resulting in larger divisions. I have to keep reminding myself things are not as bad as they appear and that I should disengage from it all for a while.

Stay safe everyone.
 

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Have casually strolled through almost blissfully ignorant. Work has continued throughout, though almost immediate restructuring has given me at least slight speed wobble. Footy training is back which is beyond awesome. My little mate hasn't missed school which has been good for him, not sure how his mum got around that, no doubt she found a loophole somewhere. Obviously he prefers being at school, so am conflicted between being happy for him and the disgust that his mum is maternally and ethically bereft. Had a pretty good distraction with a step I was walking down collapsing and smashing a hole in my shin, no break but a few stitches and almost a very casual month to heal :-D As I said, almost blissfully ignorant as there has been enough stuff going on on different channels 🙃
 

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Unfortunately we lost another one to the black dog. Remember guys, friends are there to help with what's on your mind. Reach out if you need help. It's a sign of strength, not weakness.

 

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Hey guys.

COVID has been absolutely awful for me.

Was fighting so much with my wife (in front of the kids), that we are having a break and she is staying at her Mums.
Really hard on my kids (8 and 6).

Was having some really really dark moments and couldn't get through the day.

Bit the bullet and got on Prozak script and saw a shrink today. I feel better already.

Said before you even consider trying to reconcile with my wife, he suggested just getting my own self sorted out first.

I am staying off grog completely, eating better and exercising. As mentioned in a previous thread, I have my first ever game of footy in a few weeks so looking forward to that.

I am also reading a great book on managing my anger better.

Every day is a challenge, but as the shrink said, I will get through it one way or another.

BOOMER.
 

Boomerfan99

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Unfortunately we lost another one to the black dog. Remember guys, friends are there to help with what's on your mind. Reach out if you need help. It's a sign of strength, not weakness.

I found out in the last few days or so, how many people really do care if you reach out. Even one of my dodgy mates who is a tough campaigner and spent time inside confided in me he has been on anti depressants.
 

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Hey guys.

COVID has been absolutely awful for me.

Was fighting so much with my wife (in front of the kids), that we are having a break and she is staying at her Mums.
Really hard on my kids (8 and 6).

Was having some really really dark moments and couldn't get through the day.

Bit the bullet and got on Prozak script and saw a shrink today. I feel better already.

Said before you even consider trying to reconcile with my wife, he suggested just getting my own self sorted out first.

I am staying off grog completely, eating better and exercising. As mentioned in a previous thread, I have my first ever game of footy in a few weeks so looking forward to that.

I am also reading a great book on managing my anger better.

Every day is a challenge, but as the shrink said, I will get through it one way or another.

BOOMER.
If you can get through 2020 mate that goal 1
Been a hell of a year
 

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