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I really enjoyed reading your take on those people who despite all odds it seemed achieved something with their life one way or another. You are falling for the public stigma that is attached to depression though. Depression as far as I see it is a chemical imbalance inside your brain. Some people bring it on through excessive substance abuse, however I am a firm believer that depression is brought on to a large degree by somebody's genetics.
My family has a long history of suffering depression on both sides, which I think is why I have had to suffer through it at various stages during my life. I don't, however believe that merely suffering depression makes somebody crazy. Even those who have suffered through other psychotic episodes shouldn't be typecast as crazy. Different maybe, but not crazy.
A schizophrenic once told a group of my friends that we all have different versions of reality, but that each person's version of reality has just as much validity as another's. Don't let people tell you how best to live your life, and what you should be doing with your time. As you say, your life will unfold in one way or another, and just go with the flow. See what happens and make the most of things.
I like to think of life's opportunities like the beginning of the Matrix where Neo must decide whether to take the red or the blue pill. The red one to learn the truth or the blue one to return to the ordinary life that he knows and lives every day of his boring existence. Doors open up and doors get shut, but there exists in life infinite red pills. There is always a new journey waiting around the corner and there are plenty of things to explore and try to understand. Once you understand certain things about life, the monotonous, boring existence that normal people lead, which once may have been what you wanted, can turn out to be the last thing you wanted.
yes we know, life is sh#t but we have to get on with it
life goes on, even when we dont, simple as that
life goes on, even when we dont, simple as that
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Don't put yourself on a higher pedastal than those with depression just because your shallow life philosophy gets you through your failures.
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Don't put yourself on a higher pedastal than those with depression just because your shallow life philosophy gets you through your failures.
pfft live with it
i know it sounds a bit too much to do. but alot of us adults do
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Have you been diagnosed with depression?
I have felt depressed in the past. However I put it down to feeling like shit due to certain things in my life. I didn't feel the need to go on anti depressants because well, i just didn't.
I know people with clinical depression and I would be very annoyed if i heard you trivialise their hellish life experience with ridiculous advice of "just live with it, most adults do"
You're an idiot.
Have you been diagnosed with depression?
I have felt depressed in the past. However I put it down to feeling like shit due to certain things in my life. I didn't feel the need to go on anti depressants because well, i just didn't.
I know people with clinical depression and I would be very annoyed if i heard you trivialise their hellish life experience with ridiculous advice of "just live with it, most adults do"
You're an idiot.
hey, i feel like shit a lot of the time too. but im not going to march into a former workplace i worked at with a shot gun and open fire at everyone. or shoot my former girlfriends's partners, or shoot bullies at high school + primary school
but the constant whinging and complaining over your mental state gets tiring! we ALL have our problems. it doesnt make me nor you special to think we dont have depression
does anyone really want to hear about it? or KEEP hearing about it?!??!? there are avenues for that!
thats why men watch shows like Mad men or man-ly movies starring al pacino, or movies directed by martin scorcese
not sure about women though, thats a much more touchier subject
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How many people with depression do that?
You're thinking of psychos.Who's whinging? Posters are seeking some advice and comfort from randoms who feel the same as them? The only annoying and tiring attitude is coming from you.
Excellent, guys just go and watch a few episodes of madmen and stop complaing. Well thought out advice x factor / thread.
How many people with depression do that?
Who's whinging? Posters are seeking some advice and comfort from randoms who feel the same as them? The only annoying and tiring attitude is coming from you.
Excellent, guys just go and watch a few episodes of madmen and stop complaing. Well thought out advice x factor / thread.
well... how about this? you can have an existential point to the argument!
i was having a conversation with a co-worker of mine who was feeling a bit blue:
i just said 'the meaninglessness of everything'
and her retort was: 'well, isnt everything meaningless in the end?"
hopefully those who arent feeling great can take something from that! all that is "good" ends, but so is everything that is bad.
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Wow deep.
Quotes from the prophet or neitzsche's philosophy on suffering aren't going to help someone with clinical depression.
another aspect to depression is confusion
people get depressed to the point they do not remember why they were depressed in the first place. and with the world we live in it when one thing leads to another, this happens very easily!
the important part is to identify what makes a person happy and unhappy.
follow the things that make you happy and avoid what makes you unhappy.
people get depressed to the point they do not remember why they were depressed in the first place. and with the world we live in it when one thing leads to another, this happens very easily!
the important part is to identify what makes a person happy and unhappy.
follow the things that make you happy and avoid what makes you unhappy.
thanks for the condescending attitude! what do you suggest, genius?
Not sure you get the difference between depression and being emo.
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Sorry for being condescending xfactor its pretty poor on my behalf because I can see you're being sincere.
I suggest you accept there may be levels of depression. You get through your blue times with quotes and a determined attitude because you're able to. Other people can't and whilst it must be flattering to think you have a superior attitude and more gusto for life, maybe it's because they have a severe illness that prevents them from "rising above it."
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i used to think i was bulletproof, used to think that depression was for weak minded people and that they should just get over it. nothing phased me at all and i was an arrogant bastard.
the last couple of years i've changed my views. it's amazing how little things can cause a change in someone, losing your job, family illness, financial pressures, getting older can affect people in different ways. i admit to feeling very ordinary in the last 2 1/2 years, primarily to do with work pressures and subsequently unemployment. it affects your self esteem and you do feel worthless, tend to be moody, reflect a lot on the past and wonder what the rest of your life will be like.
i can understand how people feel when they have depression, i'm sure they dont want to feel the way they do but they have no control over their emotions.
the last couple of years i've changed my views. it's amazing how little things can cause a change in someone, losing your job, family illness, financial pressures, getting older can affect people in different ways. i admit to feeling very ordinary in the last 2 1/2 years, primarily to do with work pressures and subsequently unemployment. it affects your self esteem and you do feel worthless, tend to be moody, reflect a lot on the past and wonder what the rest of your life will be like.
i can understand how people feel when they have depression, i'm sure they dont want to feel the way they do but they have no control over their emotions.
You're an idiot xfactor. Or just super ignorant.
Yes, everyone goes through down times in life and everyone feels blue occasionally. But there is a huge difference between that and actual depression.
Yes, everyone goes through down times in life and everyone feels blue occasionally. But there is a huge difference between that and actual depression.
guess what? if you think im an idiot, i think youre an idiot too!
or another way of thinking of it, how about you and me and everyone think that everyone is an idiot
try seeing it that way instead?
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Yeah that would make sense, but the problem (for you) is that placebo has literally millions of hours scientific of research and observation on his side.
You have your own, personal, opinion. And you don't seem even remotely intelligent, if indeed you're a human being and not some canine who somehow managed tom accidentally smudge a semi-coherent sentence onto his masters keyboard. That isn't meant to be insulting either, I just really can't tell.
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Well, the black dog has taken up residence with me again. Didn't go to work today. Just couldn't be ****ed getting out of bed. Just sat around all day and didn't even have the energy to take my dogs for a walk. Man this sucks.
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Sucks to hear man I heard exercising is a good way to help get you out of that funk a little quicker you should try that.
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I got all those black dog pamphlets from my psych a whil back.
What gets me depressed is my low opinion of myself.
Always telling myselfI'm useless at everything and no good.
People bag you on forums and stuff and can be smartarses but the real enemy is my own self.
I can't do much anymore.
Used to play in bands and practice drums 4 hours a day and now wouldn't even touch the thought of playing in a band again.
Being a drummer makes it worse because we are considered the "losers" of the band.
We don't make melodies,we can't write songs.
WE just tap a beat in the background while the girls all gather round the singer or guitarist.
World is so fake.
Sorry-too many coffees,loss of sleep,tired and ****ing feel like shit.
Shoulda been born in the 50s.
Hate everything about today's image,money BS world.
Music scene is all about image.
Sport is all about money.
Humans=PIGS.
Some people can be depressed and still be a-grade students.
Gees I've got the double D dose.
Dumb at school and depression.
God must've hated me.
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It's Time!
First of all; I'm no scientist or the like, but I've got some advice none-the-less.
If you don't play sport; get involved. Go join a footy club or soccer club and just enjoy every moment (eg. kicking a goal from 45m, etc). Then once you start to really enjoy it, you'll work yourself harder to get better and better and then goals will start entering your mind (eg. I want to run 3k under 5mins next month
The last thing I would do is be in a social group.
After 2 weeks,humans work you out then the bullying eventually happens.
The only time I can socialise is when I'm blind drunk.
Then my self esteem shackles are thrown away.
I even am friendly towards people and all around much happier bloke when I'm drunk.
Sober today and feel like shit.
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Exercise does help, but it's hard as hell to do if you're feeling down & it's not part of your routine. Once you get into a routine it makes a lot of difference.
I'm also happiest when I'm drunk- everything is better. Women are more attractive, jokes are funnier, conversation & people in general are far more interesting. But, I've found I also get these effects (although slightly less powerfully) from regular exercise & sex/regular touch with a partner. If just one of those 2 are lacking my emotions tend to get blunted & I can fall into what I guess is depression, but it's probably closer to deep apathy.
I'm also happiest when I'm drunk- everything is better. Women are more attractive, jokes are funnier, conversation & people in general are far more interesting. But, I've found I also get these effects (although slightly less powerfully) from regular exercise & sex/regular touch with a partner. If just one of those 2 are lacking my emotions tend to get blunted & I can fall into what I guess is depression, but it's probably closer to deep apathy.
at least you don't play Bass