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PatrickBateman

Norm Smith Medallist
Sep 8, 2008
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capitalism adds a huge amount of complex pressure
I think this point is an interesting one.

Conversely, it's capitalism that actually provides a whole lot of freedom for so many. It really boils down to the individual. Not everyone will thrive in one particular social situation, capitalism has proven to work the best to date for the majority. But yes, it leaves people by the side of the road.

The reality for men in a capitalist society (especially)...
- Men desire women
- Women judge men against each other primarily by their status, and to a lesser extent but importantly health
- Status in a capitalist society revolves for the most part around money - stability, security, ability to provide in such a society
- Roughly speaking - 85% of women think they're entitled to the best 10% of men, 50% probably think they're a shot at the top 5%

This is why so many women think a patriarchy still exits, capitalism IS geared for men, but only the most successful men, a small(ish)%. These men are highly driven, very hard working and often couldn't care too much about women anyway. Why would they? They have so much female opportunity, who cares?

The men on the lower end of the aforementioned scale have it the hardest in this society in my opinion (all men and women considered), the ability to not keep up very often results in depression, a lack of confidence, self loathing, etc. All we hear in the media is how important it is for women to have opportunity and advantage too.

It's a tough one.
 

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Sausages

HIGH PRIEST IN THE TEMPLE OF GG/SNSD
Feb 27, 2007
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G'day dudes......

Been a while since I was here.....life is sh*t atm....wrote a poem.....

Maybe the mods wanna delete it, idk.


You wanna know
loneliness?
I'll tell you the secret
but never share it.

Loneliness is being alone
but when you need them,
they are never there.
That's loneliness.

You wanna know pain from
loneliness?
The secret?
Shhhhh. I'll tell you.

When they are there
you wish they weren't.

What do you do then,
friends?

You cut and bleed and suffer.

And hate.
 

Run n Spread

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 2, 2013
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Having a horrible time, it’s interesting how at their worst, you don’t even want to eat food, you can’t sleep and time slows down a lot.

Too sensitive for the demands of modern society. We’re just humans, we’re all worthy by society and capitalism adds a huge amount of complex pressure.

It’s too much on everyone.
Exactly. Won't get into an economic debate here but there is something very wrong about how we live.
 

Run n Spread

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 2, 2013
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Just sick and tired of feeling lonely. Don’t feel like it’s ever going to change or get better.
Same. I'll guess our circumstances are different but it can sting when you do feel all alone. But hopefully you never really are and in time you find what you are looking for otherwise.
 

Run n Spread

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 2, 2013
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How long did you get clean for before giving up?
Clean? Never been an addict or drug user besides booze (which is a drug I guess).

But in answer to your question. Never drunk much until my 30s then had a tough year (but in hindsight 10 years as unemployment and other situations was nuts) and went nuts. Got clean for a year, did f all so just got back into it.

Had 3 months off 18 months a go which was horrendous as I simply couldn't cope with the stress and other factors in life so am now just drinking as a lifestyle choice. Will have 6 a night (drinks), bottle of wine + bottle of spirits on a stressful day and try and have 2 free days a week.

Gets me through which is all I care about. Going on holiday next week and doubt I'll touch a drop unless a party or nice woman is involved than I'll make an exception.
 

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Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 2, 2013
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Am tired of feeling this way. And I agree with everything on this page. Yes loneliness sucks, yes work sucks and yes men are judged on money (can't speak for women and what they are judged on just a different criteria). But what can you do? Just have to try make the best life for yourself.

In fact sick of being judged and policed. Couldn't give a continental. Just need to find a way to keep living.
 

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Perth gal

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Oct 19, 2015
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Am tired of feeling this way. And I agree with everything on this page. Yes loneliness sucks, yes work sucks and yes men are judged on money (can't speak for women and what they are judged on just a different criteria). But what can you do? Just have to try make the best life for yourself.

In fact sick of being judged and policed. Couldn't give a continental. Just need to find a way to keep living.
I think women are judged on looks a lot. Oh and age.
 

Deliverance

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Jun 19, 2011
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Exactly. Won't get into an economic debate here but there is something very wrong about how we live.
We're not meant to live in this environment. It's toxic to our bodies and minds. We're communal animals, yet we all isolate ourselves most of the day in our jobs, in our tech and in our homes. Such a tough world to make genuine connections with people. Everyone is so busy.
 

craigos

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Sep 2, 2014
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How much of a part is the environment playing on peoples feelings? I don't think humans are meant to be living in these big cities, commuting whilst surrounded by thousands, constantly bombarded with noise etc etc. Within 100 years the way we have lived has changed dramatically and I don't think we've evolved to the point were it isn't causing massive issues.
 

toxic

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May 9, 2008
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How much of a part is the environment playing on peoples feelings? I don't think humans are meant to be living in these big cities, commuting whilst surrounded by thousands, constantly bombarded with noise etc etc. Within 100 years the way we have lived has changed dramatically and I don't think we've evolved to the point were it isn't causing massive issues.
Moving to the country is the best thing I ever did.
Cannot recommend it enough
 

Bunkdar

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Lost connections is a decent read
It really is
I try spread the love about that book.
Most depressed and anxious people are bed ridden half the time so no excuse 4 not trying to read ya way out the hole :)
How to change your mind by Michael Pollan would be next in line
He did a podcaswith JRE for if anyone interested

 

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