Health Depression

[GROTTO]

ladies and gents you have to take the lead in your life and get your own sense of direction and purpose. You have to find it and gather it from within, it won't be handed to you. Now this can apply to absolutey anything and everything in your life. But when you do it, do it in a balanced manner.

Hey champ havent interacted you for a long while. Hope things are Ok?

Have to disagree here with you. Some individuals simply cannot take the lead in their life, therefore having a sense of direction and purpose cannot be achieved.

Speaking from experience, I have had days and moments in my life where almost literally moving is impossible. I think its hard for any person to fathom that a physically healthy and strong person could barely move. But it sadly happens.

For those that have experienced this, my best advice to them, is to do whatever it takes to try and move.

One step, is the beginning.

 

[PP34]

Started a new job which has been good but **** me I'm just sick of everything.

Hate watching the footy and having a bunch of campaigner commentators and the players telling us we'll be okay. Completely sick of seeing campaigner politicians.

Life is completely miserable and there is nothing I can do about it. I miss my friends. I miss having fun. I miss being a young person living life. I miss people I know being happy.

I want to smash something when someone tells me how excited they are and act like things are magically better anytime the government may relax some restrictions. ****ing bullshit.

 

[Genghis Tron]

Started a new job which has been good but fu** me I'm just sick of everything.

Hate watching the footy and having a bunch of campaigner commentators and the players telling us we'll be okay. Completely sick of seeing campaigner politicians.

Life is completely miserable and there is nothing I can do about it. I miss my friends. I miss having fun. I miss being a young person living life. I miss people I know being happy.

I want to smash something when someone tells me how excited they are and act like things are magically better anytime the government may relax some restrictions. ******* bullshit.

Good to hear about the new job. Keeping you relatively busy and active?

On your last point, I feel that though I try and keep in mind that these people are just experiencing their emotions and behaving accordingly, much like us, just on a separate end of the spectrum. I found myself being irrationally annoye by people acting like that but at the end of the day I had to step back and realise that falling into that way of thinking only served to widen the divide I felt between myself and those I feel are 'normal' which would have a knock on effect with me withdrawing from them somewhat. But it's easier said than done.

 

[GROTTO]

Started a new job which has been good but fu** me I'm just sick of everything.

Hate watching the footy and having a bunch of campaigner commentators and the players telling us we'll be okay. Completely sick of seeing campaigner politicians.

Life is completely miserable and there is nothing I can do about it. I miss my friends. I miss having fun. I miss being a young person living life. I miss people I know being happy.

I want to smash something when someone tells me how excited they are and act like things are magically better anytime the government may relax some restrictions. ******* bullshit.

Hang in there, you have done so well for so long as an outsider looking into Victoria you are well passed the hardest part.

Things will return to something similar to status quo. Till then, try and keep yourself busy. Be it through hobbies, binge watching TV, some great shows and recommendations on here or even watch all the all games from the old days.

Why dont you rewatch Carlton's last final series games this century from start to finish?

The most important thing you need to do though is to keep yourself busy or preoccupied. Even doing a spring clean of your place is a good idea.

 

[Run n Spread]

Hey champ havent interacted you for a long while. Hope things are Ok?

Have to disagree here with you. Some individuals simply cannot take the lead in their life, therefore having a sense of direction and purpose cannot be achieved.

Speaking from experience, I have had days and moments in my life where almost literally moving is impossible. I think its hard for any person to fathom that a physically healthy and strong person could barely move. But it sadly happens.

For those that have experienced this, my best advice to them, is to do whatever it takes to try and move.

One step, is the beginning.

While I don't disagree with you sometimes you do have to call it a day and not get out of bed. And shouldn't.

But you do need a direction for what you want your life to be at the end of it all.

 

[PP34]

Good to hear about the new job. Keeping you relatively busy and active?

On your last point, I feel that though I try and keep in mind that these people are just experiencing their emotions and behaving accordingly, much like us, just on a separate end of the spectrum. I found myself being irrationally annoyed by people acting like that but at the end of the day I had to step back and realise that falling into that way of thinking only served to widen the divide I felt between myself and those I feel are 'normal' which would have a knock on effect with me withdrawing from them somewhat. But it's easier said than done.

It keeps me busy which is good and I shouldn't complain too much because some of my mates don't even have jobs right now but I'm just going completely mad not being able to do the things I know and love in my downtime. Just the simple things even like being able to go and have a meal with a friend or sit down with a few friends and talk crap together. I've tried Zoom and all that but it simply doesn't compare. We all joke about how ****ed it is and think it's a bit funny but it's pretty damn miserable.

I get what you're saying and people looking forward to these announcements seems to be their coping mechanism. I just gave up on that completely ages ago. For a while I looked forward to them somewhat hoping something good would be announced, but now it's just setting myself up for more anger and disappointment. I've managed to avoid hearing as much "only a few more weeks", "we're all in this together", "can't wait for Sunday" talk as there was in my previous job but it still pops up. I just simply have lost any interest in real life to talk about it.

Hang in there, you have done so well for so long as an outsider looking into Victoria you are well passed the hardest part.

Things will return to something similar to status quo. Till then, try and keep yourself busy. Be it through hobbies, binge watching TV, some great shows and recommendations on here or even watch all the all games from the old days.

Why dont you rewatch Carlton's last final series games this century from start to finish?

The most important thing you need to do though is to keep yourself busy or preoccupied. Even doing a spring clean of your place is a good idea.

Thanks.

I get what you're saying. I've had plenty of things to keep me occupied but as a young bloke after a while I just find they're not a replacement for social interaction. In my experience I'm finding even my parents and other older ones are beginning to struggle with this nothingness and they don't even do much normally these days. I've got hobbies on the weekend but after a few hours I can't help but think gee I'd love to do something right now.

I always use to enjoy the occasional weekend or two doing little but that's because life was normally so busy. I feel like my best years are being rotted away with me having no control.

 

[GROTTO]

While I don't disagree with you sometimes you do have to call it a day and not get out of bed. And shouldn't.

But you do need a direction for what you want your life to be at the end of it all.

Im not exactly sure what point you are trying to make?

For some individuals the ability to steer the life in a direction that is for the betterment of themselves is impossible, some people dont have the tool set or mindset to achieve this. Just because they cant, we shouldnt be a society that says, too bad.

Im talking specifically depression here and how it interferes with a persons ability to make rational decisions.

 

[Genghis Tron]

I just simply have lost any interest in real life to talk about it.

Yep. Can't remember the last time I checked the news. Only use the internet for BF and music related searches now.

It has made it slightly more bearable not having constant reminders of what I can't do. I'm just waiting for the day I get a knock at the door from a mate saying we can go out again.

I was rapt when the lockdown started. Finally, an excuse to not interact with others, but it's ****ed.

 

[PP34]

Yep. Can't remember the last time I checked the news. Only use the internet for BF and music related searches now.

It has made it slightly more bearable not having constant reminders of what I can't do. I'm just waiting for the day I get a knock at the door from a mate saying we can go out again.

I was rapt when the lockdown started. Finally, an excuse to not interact with others, but it's f’ed.

I was never rapt but like many I thought it would be a chance to sort of have a break from the craziness of life for a bit and then naively like others I thought (probably hoped to be honest) that things would change again. Now I'm just at the stage where I would kill to go to my mates, order a pizza and watch the footy together. It's so miserable.

The busy nature of life is a bit much at times and I never thought I'd miss it. But I've realised how much it occupies all the spare time you have and keeps me from being in my own thoughts all the time.

 

[Genghis Tron]

I was never rapt but like many I thought it would be a chance to sort of have a break from the craziness of life for a bit and then naively like others I thought (probably hoped to be honest) that things would change again. Now I'm just at the stage where I would kill to go to my mates, order a pizza and watch the footy together. It's so miserable.

The busy nature of life is a bit much at times and I never thought I'd miss it. But I've realised how much it occupies all the spare time you have and keeps me from being in my own thoughts all the time.

Yep absolutely. I'm really hoping I can maintain this level of perspective when/if things go back to normal.

 

[raskolnikov]

I guess we have it good in Queensland by the sound of it. Feel for you guys in Victoria. The little bit of lockdown we had in Queensland sucked. And I'm a massive introvert.

 

[Genghis Tron]

I guess we have it good in Queensland by the sound of it. Feel for you guys in Victoria. The little bit of lockdown we had in Queensland sucked. And I'm a massive introvert.

I just want to go to gigs again. Need that release. Also I'd like to be allowed to walk my dog at night. I may have already mentioned in here, but he has learned the word curfew and that's just ****ed

 

[Deliverance]

Started a new job which has been good but fu** me I'm just sick of everything.

Hate watching the footy and having a bunch of campaigner commentators and the players telling us we'll be okay. Completely sick of seeing campaigner politicians.

Life is completely miserable and there is nothing I can do about it. I miss my friends. I miss having fun. I miss being a young person living life. I miss people I know being happy.

I want to smash something when someone tells me how excited they are and act like things are magically better anytime the government may relax some restrictions. ******* bullshit.

Good to hear about the new job. Keeping you relatively busy and active?

On your last point, I feel that though I try and keep in mind that these people are just experiencing their emotions and behaving accordingly, much like us, just on a separate end of the spectrum. I found myself being irrationally annoye by people acting like that but at the end of the day I had to step back and realise that falling into that way of thinking only served to widen the divide I felt between myself and those I feel are 'normal' which would have a knock on effect with me withdrawing from them somewhat. But it's easier said than done.

This, in my mind is a big problem - When you open up to people and they try to "silver line" it for you. Well meaning and all but totally misguided. You know the ones:
Depressed person - "There's so much pressure on me at work, I'm stressed out of my mind"
Well meaner - "Look on the bright side, at least you have a job"

It automatically delegitimises your right to feel stressed and almost makes you feel guilty for not being strong enough.
The opposite of this is empathy, but this is much harder because it asks us to delve in to past pain of our own and express it. Which not many of us want to do.

Depressed person - "There's so much pressure on me at work, I'm stressed out of my mind"
Empathic response - " I know how you feel, a few years back I nearly broke down because of work..."

The first response shuts you down. The second response opens you up.

 

[Genghis Tron]

This, in my mind is a big problem - When you open up to people and they try to "silver line" it for you. Well meaning and all but totally misguided. You know the ones:
Depressed person - "There's so much pressure on me at work, I'm stressed out of my mind"
Well meaner - "Look on the bright side, at least you have a job"

It automatically delegitimises your right to feel stressed and almost makes you feel guilty for not being strong enough.
The opposite of this is empathy, but this is much harder because it asks us to delve in to past pain of our own and express it. Which not many of us want to do.

Depressed person - "There's so much pressure on me at work, I'm stressed out of my mind"
Empathic response - " I know how you feel, a few years back I nearly broke down because of work..."

The first response shuts you down. The second response opens you up.

I'm having comprehension trouble due no sleep. Are you saying I'm the first or second one?

 

[GROTTO]

I guess we have it good in Queensland by the sound of it. Feel for you guys in Victoria. The little bit of lockdown we had in Queensland sucked. And I'm a massive introvert.

I actually felt at peace during the lockdown we had in SA.

Mind you, in SA a lockdown doesnt necessarily mean you couldnt leave your home.

I ended up driving to the beach several nights a week for running. It was peaceful after 7ish and so quiet. Mind you during the day it was pretty busy.

 

[Deliverance]

I'm having comprehension trouble due no sleep. Are you saying I'm the first or second one?

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. You're neither, it was more a follow on about these kind of people from the post before yours:
"when someone tells me how excited they are and act like things are magically better anytime the government may relax some restrictions"

 

[GROTTO]

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. You're neither, it was more a follow on about these kind of people from the post before yours:
"when someone tells me how excited they are and act like things are magically better anytime the government may relax some restrictions"

I agree 100% with you.

Unfortunately however some people cannot fully grasp and comprehend mental health. If some GP's who are actually trained in Psychiatry can at times display a complete lack of understanding and empathy, how can the average person with no personal experience or knowledge base, be able to show compassion to those in our society that are vulnerable.

 

[phantom13]

I think the holding pattern way of life has a lot to do with how many are feeling. It’s been 9 months of lockdown now, sure we have this roadmap but we’re also all just hanging on, hoping that we don’t get a spike in cases that sets us back. Waiting for a direction that we can see family and friends and live the life that we’re accustomed to is no way to live. I’ve found myself really melancholic. Some days I bounce out if bed, cook myself a great breakky, motivated for work and go for a run, some days I wake up and can barely drag myself out of bed. There’s no consistency in our mental health because there is no outside stimulation, we live in Groundhog Day and live on a knifes edge.

 

[Cuzz09]

Hey guys was just doing some searching and saw that low cholesterol is a major factor in anxiety and depression.

Said that people with low levels of cholesterol were a large increase chance for depression/suicide and people who had suicided had low levels.

Not the answer to everything but I guess anything to help out.

"The vast majority of the research leads to the same conclusion; low cholesterol leads to higher rates of depression or depressive symptoms. For many with depression suicide is a tragic reality. As low cholesterol is linked to depression, low cholesterol is also a risk factor in suicide attempts"



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[come on oliver]

I have been waiting months to visit a psych. Finally getting in on the 20th.

I have been going ok overall but am going to lay off the booze again. Drank on a few occasions recently and was ok but had too much yesterday. Finding it hard to control. Seem to forget about all priorities and no regard for consequences when I’m pissed. Continues to be a battle and I seem to slip up when I think it’s under control.

Hate letting myself and family down. Feeling pretty flat today.

 

[Run n Spread]

I agree 100% with you.

Unfortunately however some people cannot fully grasp and comprehend mental health. If some GP's who are actually trained in Psychiatry can at times display a complete lack of understanding and empathy, how can the average person with no personal experience or knowledge base, be able to show compassion to those in our society that are vulnerable.

True. In all honesty I've dealt with this for 24+ years. Am not quite sure why. Possibly genetic or bad luck. Episodes always seem to occur and can be exacerbated by circumstance.

I have been waiting months to visit a psych. Finally getting in on the 20th.

I have been going ok overall but am going to lay off the booze again. Drank on a few occasions recently and was ok but had too much yesterday. Finding it hard to control. Seem to forget about all priorities and no regard for consequences when I’m pissed. Continues to be a battle and I seem to slip up when I think it’s under control.

Hate letting myself and family down. Feeling pretty flat today.

I have a love hate relationship with booze. I hate drinking too much and behaving like a ****wit and going out of control. But at the same time sometimes a few drinks relaxes me and keeps things at bay. Very fine line.

 

[Mootsy]

Started a new job which has been good but fu** me I'm just sick of everything.

Hate watching the footy and having a bunch of campaigner commentators and the players telling us we'll be okay. Completely sick of seeing campaigner politicians.

Life is completely miserable and there is nothing I can do about it. I miss my friends. I miss having fun. I miss being a young person living life. I miss people I know being happy.

I want to smash something when someone tells me how excited they are and act like things are magically better anytime the government may relax some restrictions. ******* bullshit.

Is it just me or were the 1990s a much more hopeful, relaxing, positive decade in terms of mainstream culture?? I say mainstream culture because it's a focus on cultural consciousness of thought. Switch on a 90s radio station and "This is hopeful, cool, upbeat, classy, silly fun". What happened to that being a thing in the mainstream consciousness?? Obviously sport was very memorable as well and quite a lot of other categories. The tech era was the crossover of analogue to digital and the early days of computers.

I recall feature music being more down to earth, classy and for the every person, especially music videos. People weren't really as bothered by what seems to stress people out these days because it wasn't being talked about as much.

Movies were still classics/memorable.

I think the 90s got the balance of stuff right!! Mainstream culture wasn't as intimidating, low brow and narcissistic as it has been for the last twenty years.

Before Covid there was a big rise of cultural narcissism and entitlement in the 2010s. The price of assets and living skyrocket, no big deal! It's just how things are, etc. Now everyone's a superstar?? Ahhh, no, we're still just ordinary people, same as before, in reality.

I hope Covid teaches people to slow down, learn zen, learn some balance and more importantly, let go of "Ego". The cultural ego got out of control.
We need a modern 90s Part 2. Sensible, balanced, classy, exciting, relaxing, hopeful.

I think you have to find that existence yourself these days. Choose what you like reading. What digital platforms suit you the person. Search the music you like, Balance of lifestyle that has a similar positivity about it.

 

[mr bagcroft]

Is it just me or were the 1990s a much more hopeful, relaxing, positive decade in terms of mainstream culture?? I say mainstream culture because it's a focus on cultural consciousness of thought. Switch on a 90s radio station and "This is hopeful, cool, upbeat, classy, silly fun". What happened to that being a thing in the mainstream consciousness?? Obviously sport was very memorable as well and quite a lot of other categories. The tech era was the crossover of analogue to digital and the early days of computers.

I recall feature music being more down to earth, classy and for the every person, especially music videos. People weren't really as bothered by what seems to stress people out these days because it wasn't being talked about as much.

Movies were still classics/memorable.

I think the 90s got the balance of stuff right!! Mainstream culture wasn't as intimidating, low brow and narcissistic as it has been for the last twenty years.

Before Covid there was a big rise of cultural narcissism and entitlement in the 2010s. The price of assets and living skyrocket, no big deal! It's just how things are, etc. Now everyone's a superstar?? Ahhh, no, we're still just ordinary people, same as before, in reality.

I hope Covid teaches people to slow down, learn zen, learn some balance and more importantly, let go of "Ego". The cultural ego got out of control.
We need a modern 90s Part 2. Sensible, balanced, classy, exciting, relaxing, hopeful.

I think you have to find that existence yourself these days. Choose what you like reading. What digital platforms suit you the person. Search the music you like, Balance of lifestyle that has a similar positivity about it.

Couldnt agree more, spot on mate.
Cultural narcissism is pure ****ing cancer. Cant stand it.
We all laugh about it, but really, its totally reatrding us as a species. Obviously, social media is to blame for that.
As for music, it has gone to hell in a hand basket. Technology to blame there for allowing people who have no business being anywhwere near recording equipment let loose to try an cobble some shit together. No music experience, knowledge or training of any kind. L:iterally cutting and pasting "beats" and bits of pre made chord progressions together and "rapping" over it. Sounds like shit and is like watching a old drunk guy stagger down the street.
Now get off my lawn.

 

[Macpotata]

Is it just me or were the 1990s a much more hopeful, relaxing, positive decade in terms of mainstream culture?? I say mainstream culture because it's a focus on cultural consciousness of thought. Switch on a 90s radio station and "This is hopeful, cool, upbeat, classy, silly fun". What happened to that being a thing in the mainstream consciousness?? Obviously sport was very memorable as well and quite a lot of other categories. The tech era was the crossover of analogue to digital and the early days of computers.

I recall feature music being more down to earth, classy and for the every person, especially music videos. People weren't really as bothered by what seems to stress people out these days because it wasn't being talked about as much.

Movies were still classics/memorable.

I think the 90s got the balance of stuff right!! Mainstream culture wasn't as intimidating, low brow and narcissistic as it has been for the last twenty years.

Before Covid there was a big rise of cultural narcissism and entitlement in the 2010s. The price of assets and living skyrocket, no big deal! It's just how things are, etc. Now everyone's a superstar?? Ahhh, no, we're still just ordinary people, same as before, in reality.

I hope Covid teaches people to slow down, learn zen, learn some balance and more importantly, let go of "Ego". The cultural ego got out of control.
We need a modern 90s Part 2. Sensible, balanced, classy, exciting, relaxing, hopeful.

I think you have to find that existence yourself these days. Choose what you like reading. What digital platforms suit you the person. Search the music you like, Balance of lifestyle that has a similar positivity about it.

brilliantly said and spot on!

 

[Macpotata]

Hey champ havent interacted you for a long while. Hope things are Ok?

Have to disagree here with you. Some individuals simply cannot take the lead in their life, therefore having a sense of direction and purpose cannot be achieved.

Speaking from experience, I have had days and moments in my life where almost literally moving is impossible. I think its hard for any person to fathom that a physically healthy and strong person could barely move. But it sadly happens.

For those that have experienced this, my best advice to them, is to do whatever it takes to try and move.

One step, is the beginning.

Going very well Grott.

Fair points mate. Hope you're good my friend