Derby Final 2014 possibility - not anymore!

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At the end of the day - if we lost to your mob in a final - we would have come a lot further than we expected to this year anyway - we really would be over acheiving to win - so as dissapointing as a loss would be it would be no more than our season as a whole deserves.

If we somehow got up and won - well i think that would burn your mob a lot more than you beating us would burn us - you are supposed to be challenging for a premiership. I think your mob are good enough to go the whole way this year.

If you guys choked up against us and blew a whole year and a good chance of a flag..........

Lets just say you have a hell of a lot more to lose than us


Have a good one....
Won't disagree with anything you said.

Will say I don't think you will make the 8 anyway and I don't think we'll finish 5th.

So, too many hypotheticals and all them favoured the WCE way, which again you're allowed to do on your board.

I haven't looked at it that closely, but even if you win all 3 remaining games you could miss out? Percentage helps but I'm thinking 13 wins are needed.

As I said haven't looked that closely.
 

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Won't disagree with anything you said.

Will say I don't think you will make the 8 anyway and I don't think we'll finish 5th.

So, too many hypotheticals and all them favoured the WCE way, which again you're allowed to do on your board.

I haven't looked at it that closely, but even if you win all 3 remaining games you could miss out? Percentage helps but I'm thinking 13 wins are needed.

As I said haven't looked that closely.
FWIW I agree with you that I think we will miss the 8 and I doubt very much you'll drop out of the top 4

If we win all of our games we will go past essendon and Gold Coast on percentage but will need one of collingwood or Adelaide to lose at least one their last three games. Even then percentage could keep us out

If we lose to essendon we are basically out of the race.
 

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Won't disagree with anything you said.

Will say I don't think you will make the 8 anyway and I don't think we'll finish 5th.

So, too many hypotheticals and all them favoured the WCE way, which again you're allowed to do on your board.

I haven't looked at it that closely, but even if you win all 3 remaining games you could miss out? Percentage helps but I'm thinking 13 wins are needed.

As I said haven't looked that closely.
If we win the remaining 3 games the the only possible way we could miss out is if both Collingwood and Adelaide also both win their remaining 3 games. Adelaide are a chance to lose to both the Tigers and North and Collingwood are almost certainties to lose to the Hawks. So as far as finals are concerned, it's really in our own hands and all 3 games are winnable if we play like we have in the last two weeks. Bombers this week is our toughest game.
 
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I can see the Hawks beating Freo this week, and can easily see Port beating them in round 23, given the 6 day/8 day break. Particularly on Subi oval where Ports runners will have space to exploit Freo with their pace. I want this to happen SO much.
 

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Playing Freo in a derby final is a win/win proposition for WC. If WC unexpectedly win, they progress. If WC lose as expected, Freo will be farked in having to back up after the brutality of such a contest. Freo have historically failed to get themselves up mentally and/or physically the week after a derby. This is an even bigger problem for them in a cut-throat final where a loss would see their penultimate chance of winning a flag with this group go down the shitter. WC, on the other hand, have nothing to lose. They're not expected to beat Freo, and they're not in flag mode either. So, WC can perhaps mess Freo's season up just by playing them in the finals.

I couldn't care less if Freo beat WC in a final, so long as Freo don't win a flag. Throwing the metaphorical doughnut at them which is representative of the number of flags they've won is a well that I'd much prefer to be able to keep going back to.
 

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Won't disagree with anything you said.

Will say I don't think you will make the 8 anyway and I don't think we'll finish 5th.

So, too many hypotheticals and all them favoured the WCE way, which again you're allowed to do on your board.

I haven't looked at it that closely, but even if you win all 3 remaining games you could miss out? Percentage helps but I'm thinking 13 wins are needed.

As I said haven't looked that closely.

If we beat essendon we have a good chance - the teams we are competing against have a harder road ahead - after essendon we have melbourne and gc

If we cant beat all three of them we dont belong anyway - so cest la vie

Our percentage is the thing that will get us over the line

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Colingwood - brisbane, gws and hawthorne

Essendon - west coast, gold coast and carlton

Gc - port, essendon and west coast

Wc - essendon, melb and gc


So as you can see our fate is in our own hands - you woukd expect collingwood to lose to hawthorn - and our percentage will take care of the rest

Essendon lose to us - and agsin percentage - also they play gc - so one or the other loses

Gc play esssendon and us

So basically if wc win all three and collingwood lose to hawthorn we are in - if we drop a game then we are reliant on other results
 
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Haha the difference a couple of wins makes...

Freo won't lose to Hawthorn I don't think. I'm going to the game this weekend but not holding my breath.
 

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Much rather play Port in the first round if we make it.
We'll most likely play Port or North Melbourne in the first final if we make it.

Both teams do not worry me, especially if we maintain this intensity.

We have better KPP structure than both - which really matter in finals.
 

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Won't disagree with anything you said.

Will say I don't think you will make the 8 anyway and I don't think we'll finish 5th.

So, too many hypotheticals and all them favoured the WCE way, which again you're allowed to do on your board.

I haven't looked at it that closely, but even if you win all 3 remaining games you could miss out? Percentage helps but I'm thinking 13 wins are needed.

As I said haven't looked that closely.
All good....we are waiting for you guys to lose week one so we play at home in week 2;)
 

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Playing Freo in a derby final is a win/win proposition for WC. If WC unexpectedly win, they progress. If WC lose as expected, Freo will be farked in having to back up after the brutality of such a contest. Freo have historically failed to get themselves up mentally and/or physically the week after a derby. This is an even bigger problem for them in a cut-throat final where a loss would see their penultimate chance of winning a flag with this group go down the shitter. WC, on the other hand, have nothing to lose. They're not expected to beat Freo, and they're not in flag mode either. So, WC can perhaps mess Freo's season up just by playing them in the finals.

I couldn't care less if Freo beat WC in a final, so long as Freo don't win a flag. Throwing the metaphorical doughnut at them which is representative of the number of flags they've won is a well that I'd much prefer to be able to keep going back to.
They would never stop talking about it if they win. Would rather not make it at all than to play and lose to the dockers.
 

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Finishing 8th is what we want.

If we don't get Freo week 1, we'd get them week 2 (after the finish 4th then lose to the swans). No chance in finals without at least one week at home.

Obviously getting way ahead of myself. We are a very good chance to lose this weekend.
 
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