List Mgmt. DFA 2016: Period #3 opens 26/11 (Player List & Signings in OP)

[BringBackSimmo]

Pop quiz, who was the greatest Troy - Menzel, Bond or Longmuir?
None made it to 50 games.

Not sure even how you'd quantify that... purely based on goals? Menzel.

Menzel - 47 goals from 40 games
Bond - 26 goals from 36 games
Longmuir - 10 goals from 11 games

 

[Keyza]

I will feel bad for the guys who get delisted so that the club can pick up a free agent gives them little time to find a new home.
Guys like Graham and Buckley have every right imo to go to sos and ask if they will get a new contract and if not delist them so they can find a new home this dfa period.

Agree, seems pretty harsh on the players who are still out of contract.

 

[Keyza]

According to Brett Anderson on SEN today we are linked to O'Shea and have spoken to him.

 

[Jeremias]

According to Brett Anderson on SEN today we are linked to O'Shea and have spoken to him.

Strikes me as very strange, if true.

Liked him a few years back but has stagnated badly since then and we are well stocked in his position.

Would make far more sense for him to go somewhere like St Kilda where you'd think he'd see plenty of game time at senior level.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

According to Brett Anderson on SEN today we are linked to O'Shea and have spoken to him.

Doesn't seem like he has any real injuries, 24, decent size.. and seems to have been reasonable the games he did play this year, except for perhaps two.

5 Geel Didn’t respond to the call-up. Might be banished back to SANFL. 1
6 Rich Member of back six who did his job against talls and smalls. 6
7 Bris Good match-up on Keays, who lucky for O’Shea didn’t have his kicking boots on. 5
8 Carl A non-factor as an attacking weapon in defence and had hands full with Everitt early. 3
9 WCE Did the job on Darling, keeping him goalless. 6
10 Melb Followed Watts in Port’s back half. Shaded on the day but had to deal with wrist complaint. 4
11 Coll Covered very well defensively and chose the right time to come off his opponent to support. 6
12 WB Battled manfully in an inexperienced backline. 6
13 Frem Defended well despite the pressure inside Freo’s forward line. 6
15 Rich Completely nullified Deledio in the first half. 6
16 Haw Poor third quarter when he gave away four free kicks. 4

21 Melb Excellent job on Watts. 6
22 Adel Good job on Lynch keeping him to two goals. 7

http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/115508/Cameron-O-SHEA

 

[Soapy V]

According to Brett Anderson on SEN today we are linked to O'Shea and have spoken to him.

isn't he a tall defender? interesting if true. I don't want any but if I had to choose Barrett sounds likely. Young midfielders is what we need

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Odd, Google lists him as 1.97m...

Yet Wikipedia only has him as 1.93m..

Actually most places are saying 193cm..

 

[F_therest]

isn't he a tall defender? interesting if true. I don't want any but if I had to choose Barrett sounds likely. Young midfielders is what we need

Read somewhere he's 193cm...however my recollection of him, admittedly going back probably 2 years now, is he had some real dash and pace.

Pretty sure he plays more like a running medium sized half back, rather than a KPD...which would make more sense as to why we're interested since we're actually quite low on running backs.

 

[Omega Blue]

Port aren't exactly overflowing with kpd, you'd think if he was much chop he'd be still listed, especially with Trengove playing in the ruck next year.

 

[Omega Blue]

We traded our future second for 3 picks in the back end of this draft. Logic says that would indicate we plan on using them. That means 6 nd picks. We have 6 list spots open as it stands, if you include Bryne as our last nd pick we will have 5 picks, which would mean if we are going to take more than one dfa we would have to delist further.

At the moment we are linked with Barrett, O'Shea and Grigg.
Surely we won't take all three and if we do it does not bode well for Buckley and Graham.

 

[Soapy V]

If Jones is delisted, that might rule them out entirely, or it might rule out a live pick in the rookie draft.

why would you re rookie him? surely you either pay him out and move on or leave him on the list for his final year. if we re rookie him we still have to pay him?

 

[Soapy V]

Read somewhere he's 193cm...however my recollection of him, admittedly going back probably 2 years now, is he had some real dash and pace.

i remember him a couple of years ago playing some good football but like the entire club has gone backwards. may be a fresh start with bolts will do the trick?

 

[lopezz]

Can't you only RE Rookie someone who has been a rookie before?

 

[Azul]

why would you re rookie him? surely you either pay him out and move on or leave him on the list for his final year. if we re rookie him we still have to pay him?

List shuffling, here, is the process where you delist someone from the primary list and reacquire them at the rookie draft. e.g. we pick up a DFA or two and only have enough list spots to take 4 players, so pick 70 goes to waste.

By delisting a player, you gain pick 70 back and can then select that original player at pick 59 in the rookie draft. The original contract is still honoured.

I understand your contention that you might not want Jones on the list at all next year but above is a scenario where you can gain an extra primary list spot.

 

[Jimmae]

Port aren't exactly overflowing with kpd, you'd think if he was much chop he'd be still listed, especially with Trengove playing in the ruck next year.

Pretty Trengove won't be playing ruck for Port between Ryder, Lobbe and Dixon. Port would also snaffle up English if he fell outside the top 10.

why would you re rookie him? surely you either pay him out and move on or leave him on the list for his final year. if we re rookie him we still have to pay him?

Can't remember exactly, but either half or all of his salary would count outside the cap. This is in a scenario where we have a DFA/draftee we want, and the alternative is delisting Buckley.

 

[Nori]

I don't have a problem with the last 5 players on the list being hard nut ball magnets that will run all day.

It helps the NBs to be more competitive, improves the hardness of the senior group and provides better midfield depth.

Sometimes these quintessential footballers can even polish up there skills or add some outside dash to become handy players.

So if Buckley and Graham have to make way for Grigg and Barrett then so be it.

 

[Azul]

I don't have a problem with the last 5 players on the list being hard nut ball magnets that will run all day.

It helps the NBs to be more competitive, improves the hardness of the senior group and provides better midfield depth.

Watching the NBs on the telly, most of the talls were Carlton's but the onballers aside from Graham, Whiley and Tutt came from the suburban leagues.

So agreed, we do need midfield depth.

(eradicated 'flankers' Dick Smith DVR in favour of ball magnets?)

 

[F_therest]

Port aren't exactly overflowing with kpd, you'd think if he was much chop he'd be still listed, especially with Trengove playing in the ruck next year.

Pretty sure he plays like a medium sized runner flanker rather than kpd

 

[LanceRomance]

Pretty sure he plays like a medium sized runner flanker rather than kpd

like everitt?

 

[Sector 7G]

Watching the NBs on the telly, most of the talls were Carlton's but the onballers aside from Graham, Whiley and Tutt came from the suburban leagues.

So agreed, we do need midfield depth.

(eradicated 'flankers' Dick Smith DVR in favour of ball magnets?)

The other half of the problem was that Whiley and Tutt both look like they belonged in the suburban leagues.

 

[Ken Navies]

Pop quiz, who was the greatest Troy - Menzel, Bond or Longmuir?
None made it to 50 games.

Did Bond win a flag with the crowes.?
If I recall I liked the cut of his jib.

 

[Shambolic]

Did Bond win a flag with the crowes.?
If I recall I liked the cut of his jib.

Yes he did

Can't confirm his jibcut though

 

[F_therest]

like everitt?

Back half.

Less skill than Everitt but more application from what I recall

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Back half.

Less skill than Everitt but more application from what I recall

Hard nut that doesn't avoid the contest.

 

[Toddski]

O'Shea is very average. No thanks.

Grigg and Barrett please.