Coach Did they? (Kangas) | and will they (Blues)? ... select the caretaker coach without enough due diligence?

HTPunter

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Probably should have done a 'complete' interview process but both Shaw and Teague have done better than any talking interview - they've got results. On field. No amount of waffling about vision or structure compares.

People forget that since Shaw took over we haven't actually had a list change, we've just performed far better. The list is still in need of a lot of work.

Sure (shaw) we only scored 14, but was last night *that* much worse than the round 1 loss to Freo, or Good Friday? Was it any more embarrassing than Scott's 104 point loss in his 1st year?
 

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Duskfire

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Last night was bad, but it was one game. Roos have been fine up to that point. GWS and Bombers barely did any better, and they are teams in the finals.

We can judge them on due diligence all we want, but according to them, they did their job. We know they approached Horse and Simpson. Both turned them down. It’s not a coincidence that the remaining two caretaker coaches are favoured to get the job as well.

There just isn’t a huge amount of coaching talent at the moment. People are throwing Voss’s name around again, I would have gone for Shaw as well if I had to choose between them.
 

Elmer_Judd

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Longmire was always North's no 1 target. Think he would have signed on with NMFC if The Swans did not give him an extension
 

Black JuJu

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Probably should have done a 'complete' interview process but both Shaw and Teague have done better than any talking interview - they've got results. On field. No amount of waffling about vision or structure compares.

People forget that since Shaw took over we haven't actually had a list change, we've just performed far better. The list is still in need of a lot of work.

Sure (shaw) we only scored 14, but was last night *that* much worse than the round 1 loss to Freo, or Good Friday? Was it any more embarrassing than Scott's 104 point loss in his 1st year?
I guess the argument would be, have you seen enough results to base the next 2-3 years on?

At the end of the day, North will finish in the bottom 6 teams - probably reflective of their list and prospects for 2019...whether it was Rhyce Shaw steering the ship or Brad Scott.
 

Shane Heard

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With Shaw in charge of North and in the full time coach’s chair tonight he presided over Norths worst ever return of 14 points only.

We like Shaw ....but, will tonight’s nights result and the appointment of him from caretaker and the reality of this early extraordinary negative return go on to effect the appointment of David Teague at Carlton and perhaps even Rattern at St Kilda.

Will the Carlton board hold off on pulling the trigger more than ever now on Teague, (even though there is a huge Teague popular ground swell for him there)

What would you do if you sat on the Carlton or StKilda coach selection boards - Would you be more apprehensive to select the caretaker now?...
On a side note..do you realise your grammar is really quite atrocious?

It was a painful reading experience to navigate that post.

The comma is your friend my friend.
 

Ron The Bear

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Shaw and Teague will be the two youngest coaches in the comp, not that it's necessarily a negative.

Shaw in particular faces a difficult task, with North's list in no man's land. At least Teague can more or less start building from the outset. Shaw will need to make some cuts.
 

Ron The Bear

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There just isn’t a huge amount of coaching talent at the moment. People are throwing Voss’s name around again
Only four coaches have won a flag at a second club without winning at their first - Norm Smith, Robert Walls, Mick Malthouse and Malcolm Blight. And Walls was backed by considerable spending power in the semi-professional but pre-salary cap era.
 

ROORAGE

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Same process, appointed after the same duration....

North; poor due diligence. Hasty appointment, shambolic, flippant process.

Blues; rigorous, gruelling and microscopic process, forensic analysis, top notch due diligence.

Double standards and bias in the media? Nahhhhhh.......
 
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