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Gralin said:
sure

https://peteevans.com/books/bubba-yum-yum/

https://www.choice.com.au/babies-an...ook-for-babies-flagged-as-health-danger130315

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ns-controversial-baby-broth-never-hurt-anyone

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-...babies-under-investigation-pete-evans/6309452

and I said anti vax style of self promoting not that he is anti vax
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Oh please, rubbish clickbait articles. Didnt you read what i said? No stupid media quotes, give me actual examples. I doubt it, but do you even know how the broth came about and the connection to breast milk, and how Evans NEVER once said it was a substitute? I understand your just trolling the subject but you reallyneed to do some research that doesnt include the first 4 google links.
 
Bazzar said:
Oh please, rubbish clickbait articles. Didnt you read what i said? No stupid media quotes, give me actual examples. I doubt it, but do you even know how the broth came about and the connection to breast milk, and how Evans NEVER once said it was a substitute? I understand your just trolling the subject but you reallyneed to do some research that doesnt include the first 4 google links.
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what are you looking for examples of though

he sells a book on his website with paleo for babies recipes which includes the bone broth milk substitute recipe

when he tried to get the book published he couldn't because of concerns about recommending paleo to babies including his milk substitute broth

so he self published on his website

all I did was link to his website with the book and some articles from the time from ABC Choice and The Guardian, not mammamia or news of the world as you suggested
 

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Bazzar said:
Oh please, rubbish clickbait articles. Didnt you read what i said? No stupid media quotes, give me actual examples. I doubt it, but do you even know how the broth came about and the connection to breast milk, and how Evans NEVER once said it was a substitute? I understand your just trolling the subject but you reallyneed to do some research that doesnt include the first 4 google links.
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oh and the Guardian one quotes Pete if you bothered to read it :)
 
Gralin said:
what are you looking for examples of though

he sells a book on his website with paleo for babies recipes which includes the bone broth milk substitute recipe

when he tried to get the book published he couldn't because of concerns about recommending paleo to babies including his milk substitute broth

so he self published on his website

all I did was link to his website with the book and some articles from the time from ABC Choice and The Guardian, not mammamia or news of the world as you suggested
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Why was the broth substituted for breast milk?
 
Looking at this Bulk nutrients site, can anyone recommend a protein powder i'm trying to lose weight but i'm not supposed to eat red meat more than once a week so i'm finding it hard to hit my protein targets most days so just looking for a top up to put in smoothies and stuff.

Been using some cheap stuff from the supermarket but it tastes like garbage.
 
Sterge said:
Looking at this Bulk nutrients site, can anyone recommend a protein powder i'm trying to lose weight but i'm not supposed to eat red meat more than once a week so i'm finding it hard to hit my protein targets most days so just looking for a top up to put in smoothies and stuff.

Been using some cheap stuff from the supermarket but it tastes like garbage.
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Get this, I just got 10 kilos and it tastes great.

Bazzar said:
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RU_ said:
What weights do you blokes use that are typically going to the gym 5 days a week for your meals? Like 200 grams rice, 200 grams meat, 200 grams veggies or something else? I’ve got no idea.
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Calories are a completely individual thing, one size does not fit all.

Generally speaking; 1.5g-2g of protein per kg of bodyweight.

So if you weight 100kgs then eat 150-200g of protein each day. The most important macro to hit.

The percentage of your remaining calories can be used on carbs and fats however you like. But I would recommend 25-30% of your calories to come from fats.

Total calories will depend on your bmr, activity levels, current weight etc.
 
Sterge said:
Looking at this Bulk nutrients site, can anyone recommend a protein powder i'm trying to lose weight but i'm not supposed to eat red meat more than once a week so i'm finding it hard to hit my protein targets most days so just looking for a top up to put in smoothies and stuff.

Been using some cheap stuff from the supermarket but it tastes like garbage.
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Just out of interest why aren’t you allowed to eat red meat?

As bazaar said the WPC is the most cost effective protein powder to buy
 
I've been told by renal specialists to not eat too much red meat, I have around 40% kidney function so could have something to do with that.
 
saj_21 said:
Just out of interest why aren’t you allowed to eat red meat?

As bazaar said the WPC is the most cost effective protein powder to buy
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My body holds too much iron and iron is stored in your liver, if it gets too much your liver fails. Pretty much just need to limit iron and get a blood test once a year to monitor that and liver function.

Problem is I love mexican food, been making tacos with turkey mince and lettuce as a tortilla substitute lately.

Most days i'm getting under 10g of iron
 
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saj_21 said:
Calories are a completely individual thing, one size does not fit all.

Generally speaking; 1.5g-2g of protein per kg of bodyweight.

So if you weight 100kgs then eat 150-200g of protein each day. The most important macro to hit.

The percentage of your remaining calories can be used on carbs and fats however you like. But I would recommend 25-30% of your calories to come from fats.

Total calories will depend on your bmr, activity levels, current weight etc.
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Ah yep.

120KG at the moment. Definitely carrying fat but don't look obese if that makes sense? Dad-bodesque.
Will be going to the gym twice a day from tomorrow. Fasted cardio at 5am and then my weights session at somewhere around 1pm-4pm.
 
RU_ said:
What weights do you blokes use that are typically going to the gym 5 days a week for your meals? Like 200 grams rice, 200 grams meat, 200 grams veggies or something else? I’ve got no idea.
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I’ll often eat 400 grams of rice with two cans of tuna for one meal.

Also eat a 200g schnitzel with 300-400 grams of rice with a handful of broccoli for a dinner meal.
 
RU_ said:
Ah yep.

120KG at the moment. Definitely carrying fat but don't look obese if that makes sense? Dad-bodesque.
Will be going to the gym twice a day from tomorrow. Fasted cardio at 5am and then my weights session at somewhere around 1pm-4pm.
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I would recommend your protein intake be based on 110kgs of bodyweight considering you want to drop weight.

Jump onto google to try and determine your basal metabolic rate. From this you can determine how many calories to eat and calculate your protein, carbs and fat intake.
 
Sterge said:
My body holds too much iron and iron is stored in your liver, if it gets too much your liver fails. Pretty much just need to limit iron and get a blood test once a year to monitor that and liver function.

Problem is I love mexican food, been making tacos with turkey mince and lettuce as a tortilla substitute lately.

Most days i'm getting under 10g of iron
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A bloke i work with has this as well, he is told to donate blood regularly.
 
saj_21 said:
I would recommend your protein intake be based on 110kgs of bodyweight considering you want to drop weight.

Jump onto google to try and determine your basal metabolic rate. From this you can determine how many calories to eat and calculate your protein, carbs and fat intake.
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I've been using my fitness pal to count calories what % should go to protein, carbs and fat?

The app tells me to eat far less than the BMR calculations I just did but that is probably because I told it I want to lose weight.

saj_21 said:
A bloke i work with has this as well, he is told to donate blood regularly.
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Yeah the cure is to donate blood because that lowers your iron level, I'm in the unique position that the blood bank won't let me donate because my iron is too high but it's not bad enough to require therapeutic donations which they do and use your blood for other things but mostly just dispose of it.
 
Sterge said:
I've been using my fitness pal to count calories what % should go to protein, carbs and fat?

The app tells me to eat far less than the BMR calculations I just did but that is probably because I told it I want to lose weight.



Yeah the cure is to donate blood because that lowers your iron level, I'm in the unique position that the blood bank won't let me donate because my iron is too high but it's not bad enough to require therapeutic donations which they do and use your blood for other things but mostly just dispose of it.
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A lot of the government guidelines recommend a low protein intake, particularly if you are active.

I always go by 2g of protein per KG of body weight. So i weigh 85 kgs x 2g = 170g og protein so body weight really determines the grams

Regardless of bulking or cutting, protein intake should always remain the same (it can be increase if you are bulking and/or increasing you workouts i.e. two a day) So pending on your goals the percentages can change if you calorie intake goes up or down. Say you eat 2400 calories for maintenance, and my goal is to stay at maintenance my protein intake is 170g which is for arguments sake is 30% of total calorie intake. But if i want to cut down to 2000 calories my protein intake remains the same but the percentage changes (up to 36%) That is why set percentages don't really work.

Personally my recommendation is to keep protein intake at 2g per kg of bodyweight, 30% of total calories to come from fats and your carbs make up the rest. So if you want to increase/decrease calories it should come mostly from carbs.
 
saj_21 said:
A lot of the government guidelines recommend a low protein intake, particularly if you are active.

I always go by 2g of protein per KG of body weight. So i weigh 85 kgs x 2g = 170g og protein so body weight really determines the grams

Regardless of bulking or cutting, protein intake should always remain the same (it can be increase if you are bulking and/or increasing you workouts i.e. two a day) So pending on your goals the percentages can change if you calorie intake goes up or down. Say you eat 2400 calories for maintenance, and my goal is to stay at maintenance my protein intake is 170g which is for arguments sake is 30% of total calorie intake. But if i want to cut down to 2000 calories my protein intake remains the same but the percentage changes (up to 36%) That is why set percentages don't really work.

Personally my recommendation is to keep protein intake at 2g per kg of bodyweight, 30% of total calories to come from fats and your carbs make up the rest. So if you want to increase/decrease calories it should come mostly from carbs.
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the MFP app for example is telling me
1540 cal per day (this is assuming no exercise because of how I set it up originally)
193g carbs
51g fat
77g protein

seems like waaaaaay too many carbs compared to what you said
 
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