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Deledio really does not need to be a talking point of this game. He had an ordinary game, did some ok things at times but was probably slightly beaten by Pearce who didn't do THAT much either.

Our whole team except two players played poorly.

Helbig is miles from AFL standard he really cost us tonight unforuntately. We also don't have an AFL standard ruckman which is a real problem and I think we should trade for one.
 
Jack to me is a bit out of form with his marking. He seems to be misreading the drop of the ball. He is getting a lot of his goals from general play as opposed to a mark.
 
Everything about tonight was disgusting.....bloody typical, we get good media and then get outplayed by supposedly the worst team in the comp. Disgraceful

Why was Tuck the substitute?
Why is Helbig getting a game over a Nason/Webberly?
Why is Browne playing? He's terrible, at least Gus can kick!

'Development Year' is no excuse for the ******ation that was on display tonight. Why is it teams like Essendon and West Coast can go from a rabble to awesome in the space of a year, yet for richmond it's a painfully slow process.

Sorry, im just shattered after tonight......i dont normally get angry after losses

Sorry to go slightly off topic, but Essendon ain't awesome. Just wait until the season is out. Go back over the past few years and they regularly jump out of the blocks. But, they'll come back to the pack.
 

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Losing to the supposed rabble of the league is exactly that, disgusting.
All the good work over the preceding weeks amounts to 0 now. Back to the ****ing drawing board Dimma. Stop fiucking around with hacks like Browne because they try hard...the guy cant even execute a ****ing kick FFS....now get with the ****ing program. ;)
 
Yep agree. Serious WTF? Has made some questionable calls this year and is starting to go against his original philosophies.



Agree. Would have preferred Browne to have had 0 touches at least if you don't touch it, you can't fk it up.



Seriously doubt whether you have watched Richmond play at all in the last 2 years. WORST CALL OF THE YEAR!

I agree with him. Browne did not disappoint me and he must be played for several weeks. He competed at the hit outs and in the packs. You have NFI :cool:
 
I agree with him. Browne did not disappoint me and he must be played for several weeks. He competed at the hit outs and in the packs. You have NFI :cool:

Dip stick as for having NFI you take the ****ing cake....you miss the ****ing boat, when you suggest he competed and so he didnt dissapoint...yeah? I havent yet seen any ruckman not compete in the last 10 years...that aint the ****ing issue the issue is fuicking winning contests is what makes you into a rukcman that counts...not to mention the guy cant distinguish shit from clay when it comes to putting the ball onto the boot, nor does he understand how to give a handball, not only that, he doesnt even know which way the ****ing game is going at times...NOW PISS HIM OFF ASAP or we are ****ed...stay tuned...;)
 
Dont blame the weather, the location or the lights fiasco blame the wrong mental attitude of the players and poor coaching decisions. Port were up against the same circumstances as us but they came to play we came to watch thinking the 4 points were in the bag.

You have to be able to play all over Australia these days its a fact of life but we need to treat every opponent with respect. Many of the young players would be out of their comfort zone with minimal interstate trips but we have another game in Cairns so get used to it. Agree it was a disgusting performance by us but as a developing team I just hope we learnt from it.
 
Were you watching the same game?

Tottaly unproffesional by the football department as well, i mean all the port players had sweatbands on...why?

Because they prepared for the conditions, little things like that show the thought process, we were prepared for a dry night, the dew came down and we were caugght out, its the same as deciding which boots to wear.

The media darling that Jack has become has gone has gone to his head...very richo like, and that is being disrespectfull of richo

Yep noticed that,

we coulda put our guys in oven mits and they couldnt have handled the ball worse though (plus they might have been able to ge away with 'handpassing ' it by just throwing it like Pt seemed to all night

Ive actually got a Tigers oven mit so they ought to have taken a bag of em up there.

might ve squeezed out a win and would be a great highlight reel, just another wasted opportunity!
 
Severe selection error,
white and miller replaced grimes and post , anyone think we were a tall defender short .
Had Helbig also gone out for goo or Astbury , or White not brought in , Westoff is held by goo or Astbury , Batchellor goes to someone like a Pearce and Lids is released ??
 
Browne tried, I'll give him that, he's a better player than Gus.

He bloody had to shoulder the ruck against a guy who is on fire, and is almost twice his bloody age.
Gus had been doing the same thing for the first 8 weeks of the season. Browne has only been doing it for 2 weeks. While he didn't have a great impact on the game last night I'd still be giving Browne another couple of weeks at this level to see if he can pick things up.

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Browne was absolute rubbish but I'd prefer him over Graham.

Doesn't say much about Angus does it. Bring on the big X, and hell throw the kitchen sink at a decnt ruckman come years end.
You're in for a massive shock if you think Derickx is the answer to our ruck problem. Was made to look second rate by an American yesterday in the VFL. The only way I see him getting a game this year is if Dimma goes down the same path as last year and just plays everyone or if Gus Browne Vickery Post and anyone else who can possible ruck gets injured.
 

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Yep agree. Serious WTF? Has made some questionable calls this year and is starting to go against his original philosophies.



Agree. Would have preferred Browne to have had 0 touches at least if you don't touch it, you can't fk it up.



Seriously doubt whether you have watched Richmond play at all in the last 2 years. WORST CALL OF THE YEAR!
Wow.
The thing about Browne was he always went for the 2nd effort, he was playing against Brogan who is shouldering the Port team, Browne provided a contest, he can actually kick it really long, he just doesn;t have the confidence for it.

Leave him in for a week or 2 more, then see if he offers more then judge him.
The game did not start late, it was scheduled for 8:10 CST, not Melbourne time
I meant when the light towers went out at that shitty stadium.
Absolutely pathetic performance. Big mistake selling this home game. Worst football match I have ever seen.
It sure does come close, Round 22 vs West Coast in '09 is still etched into my memory though :(
 
For the first time in as long as i can remember, i was actually bored and not passionate while watching the game.

The park atmosphere, was terrible. The game from both sides was woeful and the commetary was like listening to the two guys on the Muppet Show. I just could not get excited.

When the light tower went out, i was praying for the second one to go and so we would replay the game in Melb later in the season.

Sorry, just lost for words and feel numb. Without doubt the worst quality game of AFL i have seen in ages.
 
I guess the disappointing aspects about this game are:

- With the performances and effort we put in this year we should have won this game. This is the 'Typical' Richmond of the last decade. As soon as we start to look good and get excited we lose the game we're expected to win. But the counter arguement to that is we are still a very young developing side and fluctuations in our performance is to be expected. If this continues in two year time then there would be something seriously wrong.

- We sold the game for $$$ and it bites us on the arse. It may have been the right decision at the time, but it appears to to be the incorrect one now. With the slippery conditions it suited Port because they appeared to have much bigger bodies then us. Once we mature we should win in those conditions. I don't think it's coincidence that the two most dissapointing games this season (Port and Hawthorn) was played in slippery conditions.

- Our midfield was awful. They couldn't take a mark or recieve a hand ball to save themselves. But however I thought they were hitting thier targets fairly well, it's just we fpt on fumbling it even though the ball is hiting them on the chest. That is no excuse however because Port were playing in the same conditions and didn't appear to have that problem.

-Or defenders. Rance is probably the biggest culprit here for the most basic tactic for a defender and cost us at least 3 or 4 goals. That tactic as a defender is DON'T LET THE BALL GET BEHIND YOU. While saying that I did like how he threw himself into the contests and running the ball out of defence.

That is the end of my rant right now.
 
Amature hour.

Batchelor Vs Westoff. Seriously Damien?

Does the fact that we have won more games early in the season and are near the eight because we haven't had the bye yet change what our whole season should be about?

Longer term is Batchelor going to be a better player by being moved to cover up his current deficiencies or being beaten now so he can learn and improve?

Sure this season is about us improving but it is not about improving for just one year but for the long term.

It might seeme silly to say but sometimes we need to get beaten (both individually and as a team) to improve.
 
Get some perspective. We are 4-5-1 and not aiming for finals this year. Helbig, while probably dropped now, will be better for the run and remember this year is about DEVELOPMENT not winning. Drop him now that he has had a decent taste of the level of AFL footy.
 

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Apol to gatecrash, but a few comments for more context

Agree re Pearce. That he even got the ball and had space is a worry. Maybe not Deledios fault maybe instruction?

We really are unfit- how we made it to 4q is beyond me

At 16m in the 3rd we usually go zone, Dimma should have pressed harder then to break us down

Inaccurate kicking hurt you- we are a confidence team,

EVERY other team knows to try harder and we crumble. We sense it and see it in every single game. Didnt see it last night. I'd be worried about that

Love watching Nahas and Houli, King is great, how we gave him so much space...but then you guys gave Pearce space

Carlile is a spud- delivery into your F line dindt help Reiwoldt. Perhaps the humidity effected the flight and it went longer???

We did somethign we hadnt done in a while, kicked it deeper into our F line. perhaps flght, but id say it was lack of pressure on the wings

Boak, Westhoff, Pearce, Schultz...they are 1 ni 4 good games players- maybe last night was just a game where there 1 on 4 was the same game? I mean we were due for a win eventually.

I think if it were in Melbourne you'd have pantsed us

Both of our teams were deloprable tbh. Skills terrible, aside from a slippery ball for marking. Some decision making what gets into their heads??

Brogan really is a terrific general for us. He does that to teams, its just he has to be rested and wasn't last night, usually oppositions 2nd ruckman works him and then he spells, and then they get goals. you need a key ruckman

umpiring, sorry, you can't all that one. i saw 1 obvious one, a few quick non handballs umps were unsighted for, but i think there were a few ahem, slung port players, one guy had his head ripped opp, chaplin held for mark goal. as youd agree, its not the ones our teams get paid against us, its the ones we simply dont get- that geelog and top teams always seem to get.

lights out and a refund for attendees would have been a fair result for all

youve gone what? wwwlw? oh how we wish we were even lllwl in that time!

stick at it, thats a good result

sometimes you just get bacd night where it doesnt come together- lord we've had that for seasons. we're still on the way down, you guys are going good, just a shame your pace wasnt on fire last night, we were worried you'd be faster and whip us

i think your players just didnt bring that collective intensity and let us control the tempo of the game. if you see 3 or 4 weeks like that, then you can worry, but Darwin is- as anyone lives lived or been there will tell you- is a crazy place and does weird things to your body and mind.

we'll take the 4 points for sure dont worry about that, but not worth going into a meltdown over. as much as we are a lazy team full of front runners and dinkeys and spuds, we at Port well know that when we have a game and the bouce goes our way, we can beat anyone....or lose by 119 points for that matter

good luck
 
What worries me the most is our midfield, it is week in week out getting absolutely smashed in the clearances and contested ball, how can something that was such a strength last year become a huge weakness in 1 year??
 
For the first time in as long as i can remember, i was actually bored and not passionate while watching the game.

The park atmosphere, was terrible. The game from both sides was woeful and the commetary was like listening to the two guys on the Muppet Show. I just could not get excited.

When the light tower went out, i was praying for the second one to go and so we would replay the game in Melb later in the season.

Sorry, just lost for words and feel numb. Without doubt the worst quality game of AFL i have seen in ages.

This^^^^^^^^^^^^

Surely Helbig can stay in the ressies until he learns to be able to hold on to the ball and not fall over at the same. I swear every time he went within 2 meters of the ball we lost possession, not just the 25% de, every 80/20 contest he lost and he butchered 3 or 4 open goals under no pressure.
 
suck it up guys, we're bound to have a few downers, no point crying over it, it wasn't our night.

I reckon we will take it up to the swans, we don't play too bad at the scg
 

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