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MCG of the EFL said:
Will be interesting if a 10 team 1st division is brought in season 2019 for the D2 premiers of 2017.3 teams will have to be relegated after season 2018.
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You are assuming that a team will be promoted in 2018. Think this may not be the case/plan, and only two would down in your scenario rather than three.
 
So here we go reading a few comments on this forum Bob.

Season 2019 will be a 10 team competition 1st division, 2nd division will be a 12 team competition same D3 with D4 being a 10 team competition.No 5 divisions.

In season 2018 the premier of D2 will not be promoted to D1 and the bottom 2 teams of D1 in season 2018 will be relegated to D2.
 
That's the way I read the promotion & relegation happening as per the document.
Clubs are asked to provide which option they prefer 2018 or 2019, so the implementation timing is still up in the air.
 
Bobby Beecroft said:
That's the way I read the promotion & relegation happening as per the document.
Clubs are asked to provide which option they prefer 2018 or 2019, so the implementation timing is still up in the air.
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So if clubs vote neither will every thing stay as is or does the EFL have the final say?
 

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Feedback from clubs is due June 16. Clubs feedback will determine process moving forward.

Can't speak for the club, but personally would vote for whatever improves the chances for us to remain in 1st Division. Currently have won 3 from 4. That said I think it is fairer that all clubs know what is to occur months prior to the commencement of a season.
 
Does any on know if the players and their clubs get paid by the efl to play interleague. I heard yesterday that other leagues are doing this but not the EFL
 
MCG of the EFL said:
The obvious answer to that is no,why.Finish bottom both years and D2 you surely head.Pretty sure many out there would disagree with my thoughts of the promoted team given the option if they finished bottom 1st year in and they wanted to stay up, the 2nd last team gets relegated though.

Will be interesting if a 10 team 1st division is brought in season 2019 for the D2 premiers of 2017.3 teams will have to be relegated after season 2018.
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Who said they finished last for 2 years. What if they finished 6th first year and then second last the following year. 2 years of grace wasn't it, or did you mean one year?
 
5 Divisions - I believe every team will be ranked 1-44 at the end of the completed finals season (2018 or 19) and be split into divisions of 10,10,8,8,8. The premier of Div2 will be ranked as No12 and last in Div1 will be ranked No13. So under the system no premier will go up a division just up ranking. Div2 last will become No23 and Div3 premier becomes No22. Also the new Div's will be called Premier, Div1, Div2, Div3, Div4 just to confuse us all. As well the EFL is asking do clubs in the lower Div's want to play only 16 H&A instead of 18.

My comment - It will be interesting how clubs vote as I think they will vote on their personal preference not on whats necessary what the EFL want. I also think player contracts and salary cap limits will also come into consideration especially if clubs are facing being placed in a new Division. My call I'm going out on a limb here and say its going to happen in 2018. I have no idea really just my guess
 
Points - My understanding is AFL Vic set the maximum amount of points across the whole state then each league set theirs, for 2017 AFLV set it at 48pts. EFL decided to go with 47. I believe AFLV will set 2018 maximum points by end of June and its expected to be lower. Personally I would like AFLV set it at 45 and let it remain at that level for at least 5 years to create stability.
 
If this is implemented next season, What a Joke that would be.

Clubs who were at the lower end of the ladder last season may have recruited a little harder in the off season if they had been made aware that the bottom 3 from 2017 were to be relegated.

Still, End of May and nobody still does not know what is happening, Amateur hour at EFL house
 
So they recruited knowing they would be at the bottom of the ladder BJS but didn't really care. But now they will... .?

Think that's a fairly amateur comment
 
smy1305 said:
So they recruited knowing they would be at the bottom of the ladder BJS but didn't really care. But now they will... .?

Think that's a fairly amateur comment
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That is a fairly amateur response.

Take a Montrose for Example, Are never going to challenge for a flag this season,
Knowing that Bayswater were always going to struggle, Probably recruited with the intention to be somewhat competitive and stay in First Div, Now they may be in a Sh*t fight to stay up,

Im sure their new coach has plenty of contacts. A few extra recruits may be handy, But who knows what the powers to be are thinking.

I understand you are living on the other side of the country and most likely to be out of Sync on what is happening, But good on you for trying
 

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That is a fairly amateur response.

Take a Montrose for Example, Are never going to challenge for a flag this season,
Knowing that Bayswater were always going to struggle, Probably recruited with the intention to be somewhat competitive and stay in First Div, Now they may be in a Sh*t fight to stay up,

Im sure their new coach has plenty of contacts. A few extra recruits may be handy, But who knows what the powers to be are thinking.

I understand you are living on the other side of the country and most likely to be out of Sync on what is happening, But good on you for trying
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Why state Bayswater were always going to struggle? Fairly decent division two club.

If the EFL changes to five divisions they'll both still be in division one, to state that Montrose only recruited to stay in division one is naive - every club looks at their list at the end of each season with the desire to improve for the next - unless you are on the inside of a club and understand their strategy it's an offhand comment.

P.S. I live in the East and have been involved at club level for over 15 years.......

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I simply used Montrose as an example, If they knew in October that the bottom 3 were to be relegated, Would they try to recruit a couple more, I believe yes. So would a few other clubs I assume.

A lot of Clubs know they cannot compete with the big boys for a sustained period, But are somewhat happy to still be competitive without being relegated and not setting the club back in years to come.

Some clubs have tried and are now not in the division (Scoresby, Donvale, EB, Mitcham, Croydon ect.....)

FYI - I think the 5 divisions is a good idea, Just not being able to make a decision until half way through the season is strange. Should be implemented from the 2019.
 
If 5 divisions must start from 2019 and the premiers of all divisions 2018 do not get promoted.

Main advantages in the structure brought up is every one plays each other twice.Not sure about lower divisions only playing 16 rounds.Still think the D2 premier should be given the chance to play 2 years in D1 but perhaps the point and salary cap might ease my concern on that one.

Not sure on 5 divisions and I think the clubs might knock it back any way.
 
smy1305 said:
So they recruited knowing they would be at the bottom of the ladder BJS but didn't really care. But now they will... .?

Think that's a fairly amateur comment
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We recruited very young for 2017, numerous guys that have just come from 19s footy to complement our own strong 19s from 2016. Short term loss for long term gain. If we were aware that the new strategy was coming into 2017, the strategy would have been modified to ensure survival & we were not at the bottom end of the ladder in 2016.

Just an example as to where BJS was heading.
 
Bobby Beecroft said:
We recruited very young for 2017, numerous guys that have just come from 19s footy to complement our own strong 19s from 2016. Short term loss for long term gain. If we were aware that the new strategy was coming into 2017, the strategy would have been modified to ensure survival & we were not at the bottom end of the ladder in 2016.

Just an example as to where BJS was heading.
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100% Correct.
 

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good to get close to Vermont today bob.
Baysie nearly beat Balwyn . Never seen 1st division this competitive and these clowns want to change it . Player points really evening things up . Keep it at twelve teams
 
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It is ironic that this year is the one that strongly promotes to leave it as is. Despite there being a clear current top 5.

We have a horrible spat of injuries at all levels, struggled to get numbers for 2 & 19s, while the opposition are able to being in 5 VFL players due to byes.
Player points perhaps are evening it up but there is an obvious 'elephant in the room'. I would argue that a particular club, is likely to be a force forever if things are left to continue as they are. At some point poaching juniors from within the League needs to be addressed.

Not too often you kick 1.10 in the final quarter to lose by 7 points. Probably says it all.
 
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