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D4 Division 4 - 2014
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The Pork rolls were outstanding!
Yep, dimmies, pork rolls, noodles, we've got the lot! Get involved.
Anyway, just to provide some clarity to the chatter, WB have been kind enough to assist our Clubbies. We've been struggling with fielding a (3rds) team this season but obviously our Clubbies will now stay afloat with the new valuable additions. Obviously, said WB players will always be with WB moving forward - this is just a temporary solution that works out well for both clubs for the remainder of the season; nothing more, nothing less. Also, as everyone now knows, no WB players can or will line up for our 1s / 2s!
All the best to every club for the rest of season.
Anyway, just to provide some clarity to the chatter, WB have been kind enough to assist our Clubbies. We've been struggling with fielding a (3rds) team this season but obviously our Clubbies will now stay afloat with the new valuable additions. Obviously, said WB players will always be with WB moving forward - this is just a temporary solution that works out well for both clubs for the remainder of the season; nothing more, nothing less. Also, as everyone now knows, no WB players can or will line up for our 1s / 2s!
All the best to every club for the rest of season.
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It makes sense, however I'm certain that if wasn't assisting the Dragons (or Masala) the VAFA wouldn't allow it.
You got that right!
Reasonably petty and small minded replies Abba and Sidewinder.
Disappointing thumbs up from you Ruck Machine - thought you were better than that.
Regardless of clubs involved I think at this level of footy participation is a great thing, and the VAFA should be applauded. Diversification and covering the full width and breadth of Melbourne is what makes the VAFA such a fantastic competition.
Disappointing thumbs up from you Ruck Machine - thought you were better than that.
Regardless of clubs involved I think at this level of footy participation is a great thing, and the VAFA should be applauded. Diversification and covering the full width and breadth of Melbourne is what makes the VAFA such a fantastic competition.
I don't get it. What's your actual point? Because both clubs have a high % of players with parents born in Asia? So.... ?
Perhaps the only reason is that VAFA doesn't want a team that has to often forfeit jeopardise the opportunity for other Clubbies (III) players to have a kick on a Sat morning?? Last time I checked, there's more to the best game in the world than where someone's parents were born.
It's in the VAFA's best interests for the Dragons to prosper, same reason why the SFL was so keen to have them a few years ago. Not specifically for being Asian per se, more for the potential growth in the leagues exposure to a large community not traditionally associated with footy.
It's good business but it borders on preferential treatment.
It's good business but it borders on preferential treatment.
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Not often in this Div but ...
Try getting a match day permit after June 30th to any other bottom VAFA struggling team? No hope. Looking at the scores it has already changed first round results which is affecting the ladder!
Preferential +++
Try getting a match day permit after June 30th to any other bottom VAFA struggling team? No hope. Looking at the scores it has already changed first round results which is affecting the ladder!
Preferential +++
Maybe you'd have preferred the Walter Lindrum rule & had a few players taken off Latrobe Uni in their Clubbies?Not often in this Div but ...
Try getting a match day permit after June 30th to any other bottom VAFA struggling team? No hope. Looking at the scores it has already changed first round results which is affecting the ladder!
Preferential +++
I guess it could prove to be a bad thing if the flow of events in the comp is different as a result of an intervention. However the grade is a 6 team comp; would the other clubs prefer it to be a 5 team comp? That sounds like the option...
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Wow - Cant believe the angst at some blokes getting a game in a competition that is literally not for Sheep Stations!
Im sure the opposition clubs that would have received a forfeit going forward are happy that they are getting a game instead of having to stay at home with the cheese and kisses.
Its a great initiative that is not permanent its for a couple of weeks - and if the Dragons win a flag in the clubbies - well do the rest of us really care? at least there is a game on this weekend for the opposition clubbies.
Whoever had the foresight to accomplish this either from the Dragons or West Brunny, hats off - win win for both clubs.
Clubs cant get promoted or relegated from Club 18s - so I say let them play - red tape gets in the way too much these days.
Im sure the opposition clubs that would have received a forfeit going forward are happy that they are getting a game instead of having to stay at home with the cheese and kisses.
Its a great initiative that is not permanent its for a couple of weeks - and if the Dragons win a flag in the clubbies - well do the rest of us really care? at least there is a game on this weekend for the opposition clubbies.
Whoever had the foresight to accomplish this either from the Dragons or West Brunny, hats off - win win for both clubs.
Clubs cant get promoted or relegated from Club 18s - so I say let them play - red tape gets in the way too much these days.
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I think your statement is out of line.
If there were two willing clubs peacefully brokering a deal that has not much impact on anything really - and increases participation and opportunity for clubs that have numbers not to miss out on a game due to forfeit, I think the VAFA would help ANY team.
At the end of the day - Good business for a football league is Players playing.
SPOT ON chief. Anyway, let's change the subject before the Mods create a new D4 thread. I'm still mentally scarred from Wyndham-gate.
Surprised no tips have come in from Fosters as yet so I'll take his place for now.
SNRS
NB v Dragons (1 pt)
Canterbury v WB (21 pts)- Match of the Round
Cobras v Chaddy (11 goals)
Point Cook v Hawks (8 goals)
West Grammarians v BHN (30 pts)
MAGOOS:
NB v Dragons (1 pt)
Canterbury v WB (10 goals)
Cobras v Chaddy (8 goals)
Point Cook v Hawks (10 goals)
West Grammarians v BHN (16 pts)
SNRS
NB v Dragons (21 pt)
Canterbury v WB (9 pts)
Cobras v Chaddy (71 pts)
Point Cook v Hawks (92 pts)
West Grammarians v BHN (28 pts)
MAGOOS:
NB v Dragons (81 pts)
Canterbury v WB (77 pts)
Cobras v Chaddy (23 pts)
Point Cook v Hawks (107 pts)
West Grammarians v BHN (88 pts)
NB v Dragons (21 pt)
Canterbury v WB (9 pts)
Cobras v Chaddy (71 pts)
Point Cook v Hawks (92 pts)
West Grammarians v BHN (28 pts)
MAGOOS:
NB v Dragons (81 pts)
Canterbury v WB (77 pts)
Cobras v Chaddy (23 pts)
Point Cook v Hawks (107 pts)
West Grammarians v BHN (88 pts)
SNRS
NB v Dragons (87 pts)
Canterbury v WB (21 pts)
Cobras v Chaddy (140 pts)
Point Cook v Hawks (80 pts)
West Grammarians v BHN (51 pts)
MAGOOS:
NB v Dragons (34 pts)
Canterbury v WB (82 pts)
Cobras v Chaddy (162 pts)
Point Cook v Hawks (107 pts)
West Grammarians v BHN (43 pts)
In terms of WB and the Dragons situation, good on them for finding an arrangement to let more blokes have a game, not only for WB and Dragons, but the teams that would otherwise miss out due to the dragons forfeit.
NB v Dragons (87 pts)
Canterbury v WB (21 pts)
Cobras v Chaddy (140 pts)
Point Cook v Hawks (80 pts)
West Grammarians v BHN (51 pts)
MAGOOS:
NB v Dragons (34 pts)
Canterbury v WB (82 pts)
Cobras v Chaddy (162 pts)
Point Cook v Hawks (107 pts)
West Grammarians v BHN (43 pts)
In terms of WB and the Dragons situation, good on them for finding an arrangement to let more blokes have a game, not only for WB and Dragons, but the teams that would otherwise miss out due to the dragons forfeit.
I stopped putting in tips because only Red Ross and I were putting them in! It was getting boring winning the tips every week.
Good to see a few more having a crack at it!
Seniors
West Brunswick 42 points (match of the round)
Manningham 71 points
Dragons 17 points
Hawthorn 89 points
Box Hill 3 points
Legends
West Brunny 109 points
Manningham 78 points
Dragons 17 points
Hawthorn 104 points
Westbourne 39 points
Good luck to all. Enjoy the Carlton Draughts after the game. Unless your playing at Westbourne, then enjoy the out of date VB longnecks.
So the transferred players can't play seniors or reserves. Fine. But the best of their thirds can now play seconds, perhaps bolstering their seniors. There is no doubt this is beneficial for the dragons. But will it make a difference? Only to the sides they beat from here on in.
What a load of crap!! Preferential treatment??
Yep, the VAFA HQ have a vested interest in seeing the Dragons be competitive in Club XVIII 3.
What I would have given to be a fly on the wall at the VAFA Board meetings where they devised this master plan???
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Sorry Bigwaz this makes no sense?? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they pick the best 22 to play in the 1s, the 2nd best 22 to play in the 2s, and then the 3rd best 22 to play in the 3s......
I'm with you Justafan. Surely there is no one playing clubbies who is good enough to be playing 2's. And this has no effect what so ever on their seniors...
In isolation I agree this sounds ridiculous. However based on a unique characterstic, the Dragons growing as a club rather than shrinking is a win for the VAFA.
Say for example BHN had a clubbies team that was forfeiting most weeks and Hawthorn had an excess of players who were missing out a game every week. No chance in hell the VAFA would sanction this kind of deal.
Point Cook would probably get the same concessions based on their location, but most clubs wouldn't.
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What a load of rubbish
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Does Hawthorn have guys playing for Box Hill North? Does the VAFA know? Does it have anything to do with their tuck shop?
Bored on a Sunday hit the VAFA ladder Predictor, results as follows, anyone game to tip against the machine!!!!
Seniors
Team P W L D B % Pts
1Hawthorn 18 18 0 0 0 284.30 72
2West Brunswick 18 16 2 0 0 162.45 64
3Canterbury 18 14 4 0 0 122.71 56
4Manningham 18 10 8 0 0 112.60 40
5Westbourne 18 9 9 0 0 98.02 36
6Box Hill North 18 8 10 0 0 87.83 32
7Point Cook 18 6 12 0 0 80.06 24
8Dragons 18 5 13 0 0 60.81 20
9North Brunswick 18 4 14 0 0 66.34 16
10Chadstone 18 0 18 0 0 26.82 0
Reserves (Although not sure if I agree with the maths in the 2's)
Team P W L D B % Pts
1West Brunswick 18 17 0 1 0 497.96 72
2Hawthorn 18 16 1 1 0 351.96 68
3Westbourne 18 12 6 0 0 128.54 48
4Manningham 18 9 8 1 0 75.09 40
5Canterbury 18 10 8 0 0 67.93 40
6Box Hill North18990063.0936
7North Brunswick186111061.3028
8Point Cook184140054.2416
9Dragons184140037.9316
10Chadstone181170031.534
Seniors
Team P W L D B % Pts
1Hawthorn 18 18 0 0 0 284.30 72
2West Brunswick 18 16 2 0 0 162.45 64
3Canterbury 18 14 4 0 0 122.71 56
4Manningham 18 10 8 0 0 112.60 40
5Westbourne 18 9 9 0 0 98.02 36
6Box Hill North 18 8 10 0 0 87.83 32
7Point Cook 18 6 12 0 0 80.06 24
8Dragons 18 5 13 0 0 60.81 20
9North Brunswick 18 4 14 0 0 66.34 16
10Chadstone 18 0 18 0 0 26.82 0
Reserves (Although not sure if I agree with the maths in the 2's)
Team P W L D B % Pts
1West Brunswick 18 17 0 1 0 497.96 72
2Hawthorn 18 16 1 1 0 351.96 68
3Westbourne 18 12 6 0 0 128.54 48
4Manningham 18 9 8 1 0 75.09 40
5Canterbury 18 10 8 0 0 67.93 40
6Box Hill North18990063.0936
7North Brunswick186111061.3028
8Point Cook184140054.2416
9Dragons184140037.9316
10Chadstone181170031.534
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