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So after further research it seems I was bang on DMT is what we used to call Dream Weed.

So for those who want to know what it's like without people trying to inferior some greater meaning onto the trip keep reading:

Now Maybe dreamweed was a local povo slang term or whatever but that's what we called it.

One of the plants it comes from is maidens wattle (in particular the bark) it's a native plant and the one I have experience with. (in fact up until today I had no idea it came from any other source)

It can not be chewed or ingested to get the effect only sniffed or smoked we used to sniff using the good old bowl and towel inside a tent technique (which is great because if you don't want a big trip you can just sit inside with a "big" tripper and space out) back on topic to get any effect it needs....I guess you'd call it an activator. Simply burning the bark off maidens wattle won't do anything.

I won't go into the exact method for extracting DMT from maidens wattle because that may be illegal and have to be pulled from bigfooty.

Everyone I know whos made it use's an alcohol as the "activator" (methanol is the most common for price reasons)

Now the effects: there's two types of trips a small trip and a big trip.

Having never smoked it I can not speak for how these will occur.

But through sniffing its.......strange you have to inhale as much as you can as quickly as you can or else you just get a small trip.

On a small trip you will see strange patterns and sometimes hear a ringing noise but that's pretty much it.

If within a few minutes you don't experience anything other then strange patterns and a ringing noise STOP, no matter how much you do from now on nothing will change, (you can try again the next night but you've lucked out this time.) don't be surprised if a mate trips right the **** out from the same lot straight after you. (there's not really "bad" batches it's dependant on how much you inhale in a short time frame....so take deep breaths)

Now the big trip:
The noise will increase and become louder, your body will feel like it's vibrating along with it. And your vision will vibrate as well (which is freaky when you've got strange colours and patterns going all over the place) so everything looks and feels like it's vibrating.

This is as close as you can come to a big trip without going over the edge, you're either going over the edge or coming down.

At this point you feel like your heartbeat and breathing is slowing although not all people I did it with experience this in any case it's bullshit your heart rate actually increase's (so don't freak out when you realise your mates pulse is elevated)

From here on in: this is probably what Alice in wonderland was talking about.

Everything slows right down and you feel like your moving, eventually you will experience a very realistic hallucination it "feels" real

At this point the ringing noise seems to vanish (although the vibrating can remain)

The hallucinations: these are A-grade ****ed up shit where talking audio and visual and some times (tactile) hallucinations

Now in this thread people seem to be suggesting everyone sees the similar things.

This is both true and untrue it seems very much to depend on your view of life.

I've had mates who believe in aliens and say they've been transported to alien worlds and had aliens speak to them other mates who say they've met Sharman's, heard strange music etc etc.

But here's the sticking point (and why we call it dream weed) what you experience can be influenced but what your expecting to see.

So it's best not talk or ask the person that's tripping what is going on because, they will often be able to hear you and discuss it, influencing your trip and in some cases theirs

Further more you can "prepare" your trip by focusing on a central theme before going under, alot of the kuri boys I did it with focused on asking questions wanting advice, and as they came out of it would report having that answered.

Now a word of warning: this can get quite ****ed up. If you have some underlying negative issue or your focusing on negative things, this will present itself in your hallucinations.

Remember this is basically a really intense dream it feels like your ****ing there, so when it's negative it's really negative. and you can't just snap out of it, you've got to ride it out (so don't do this shit alone if it goes bad it's like your worst ****ing nightmare, and you want people that can try and keep you calm As you come down)

Finally believe it or not you can sometimes influence events take control whilst tripping (although I only once achieved this) don't expect just to be able to do this, it's just extra cool when it does.

As you come back the big time hallucinations fade, but the strange shapes, lights and vibrations linger for a bit. (you may still feel the vibration sensation the longest)

Now the follow up: despite what people in this thread are saying your trip can last between 30-1 hour. (I assume the short trip, is because your buying it packaged and has probably been cut with other substances) in any case the length of time doesn't matter as your sense of time is completely ****ed.

Also the reason so many people can't describe it is because what you see and hear is forgotten quickly. (but using dream recall techniques you can help retain the memory of your trip)

The only lingering effect is the feeling and how do you describe that accurately? Most people can't, so no it's not just some great amazing thing people myself included general just suck at describing a feeling (which is why feelings other then physical sensations are absence from my review) the closets I could explain it is to say it's like a waking dream.
 
Pot, DMT, opium, mushrooms also have cultural importance to many societies, including the legal owners of this land (see mabo ruling) and that point is why I made my last statement. alcohol is not a mind altering drug, more a controlling one, hence its legal.

None of them have the prevalence of alcohol.

There's no conspiracy behind why alcohol is legal. It's just too popular and culturally ingrained to be banned, that's all. See Prohibition. If everybody wanted to use shrooms as much as they want to drink beer, they wouldn't be illegal either.
 
How the hell is THAT some kind of "must-do" on a weekly basis??

Well we used to do it because as long as you have the equipment everyone one get trip out for the price of a bottle of methanol.

I'm.....staggered that this is the "rarest" most illegal drug in world.

First off I could of been imprisoned for something we, used to think of as nothing more then awesome pot.

Second we could have been rich drug barons by the sounds of things.......which may go to explain why one of my mates dad's lived in a housing commission flat and drove an Audi.
 

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Sydney Bloods... It must be DMT if it comes from the maiden wattle. And obviously it has psychedelic effects. Although I must say the method of extraction doesnt seem right. Neither does the experience. Maybe it's a crude method of extraction and therefore produces poor quality DMT.
 
Well we used to do it because as long as you have the equipment everyone one get trip out for the price of a bottle of methanol.

I'm.....staggered that this is the "rarest" most illegal drug in world.

First off I could of been imprisoned for something we, used to think of as nothing more then awesome pot.

Second we could have been rich drug barons by the sounds of things.......which may go to explain why one of my mates dad's lived in a housing commission flat and drove an Audi.
I'm not criticizing you whatsoever btw.

I appreciate your transparency and detail.

My post was more generally-speaking, doesn't sound like anything worth doing even once, let alone once a week for the term of your life as advised by the OP.
 
Sydney Bloods... It must be DMT if it comes from the maiden wattle. And obviously it has psychedelic effects. Although I must say the method of extraction doesnt seem right. Neither does the experience. Maybe it's a crude method of extraction and therefore produces poor quality DMT.

Also FYI I'm attempting to recall the experience I last did 5 years ago......and was obviously high at the time, my recollection may not be spot on.
 
DMT is completely harmless, though. I agree with you in the case of alcohol and heroin. These things need to be talked about and not just all grouped together as the same evil concept called "drugs".

We simply do not know if DMT is completely harmless. It's received very little by the way of clinical study. To say shit like "it's completely harmless" is as misleading as the "One joint will have you sucking ***** at rest stops" brigade.

I have an old mate who's a doctor that's apparently got right into the clinical study of these type of psychotropics as applied to psychiatry. Though he sort of ended up interested in the area due to the enormous quantities of party drugs he used to consume, so who knows how genuine the clinical interest is? Anyway, there hasn't been a lot of proper medical study done on these, and that's where he hopes to make his mark.
 
. It's just too popular and culturally ingrained to be banned, that's all. See Prohibition. If everybody wanted to use shrooms as much as they want to drink beer, they wouldn't be illegal either.

Then why is pot illegal?
 
Anyway, there hasn't been a lot of proper medical study done on these, and that's where he hopes to make his mark.
Thats a common denominator in psych. No meaningful studies into anything. no accountability, no transparency, no process, no structure, no money.
 
I haven't actually got around to watching The Spirit Molecule but I have had it recommended to me by quite a few people

 

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Thats a common denominator in psych. No meaningful studies into anything. no accountability, no transparency, no process, no structure, no money.

Yeahnah

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Escapism from a **** life is my guess.
And/or that "keeping up with the Joneses" social ladder/status thing. As we've read a number of comments already how they're better/cooler and even comments like "people who don't do drugs are boring, less intelligent."
 
Chicks just can't appreciate pr0n like us men can.

I'm tripping balls whenever I see that kooky Japanese shit.
 

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repeated concussions playing football can cause serious similar problems later in life. many ex-footballers (usa) have killed themselves, struggled with depression/etc. brain getting battered about also happens with hard-core drug-taking. many cases even of someone taking lsd once and it causing them permanent mental problems. sid barrett is a poster-child. also, consider how simple allergies can cause children to appear to be insane, have serious mental/social problems, but once diagnosed/corrected, the allergent (sic) removed from their diet, they return to being normal-functioning children.

messing with the brain = bad news. clear cut. no ifs/buts about it.
 
Remember this is basically a really intense dream it feels like your ******* there, so when it's negative it's really negative. and you can't just snap out of it, you've got to ride it out (so don't do this shit alone if it goes bad it's like your worst ******* nightmare, and you want people that can try and keep you calm As you come down)

I hear this advice given all the time for shrooms and acid, (and it may be good advice for the majority, I don't know), but nothing could be further from the truth for me personally.

The only issues I've had with psychedelics is when my mind tried to fight them and anchor itself to reality. Constantly trying to anchor yourself back to reality just creates a nasty jarring effect - it's like mentally rubbing yourself the wrong way against a cheese grater.

Personally I couldn't think of anything worse than having a straight person next to me constantly asking me if I'm ok. That's the last thing I need - I know I'm ****ed up, I just need to be left alone to relax into it and ride it out.
 
I hear this advice given all the time for shrooms and acid, (and it may be good advice for the majority, I don't know), but nothing could be further from the truth for me personally.

The only issues I've had with psychedelics is when my mind tried to fight them and anchor itself to reality. Constantly trying to anchor yourself back to reality just creates a nasty jarring effect - it's like mentally rubbing yourself the wrong way against a cheese grater.

Personally I couldn't think of anything worse than having a straight person next to me constantly asking me if I'm ok. That's the last thing I need - I know I'm ****** up, I just need to be left alone to relax into it and ride it out.

Have to remember this shit is intense and some people lose perspective that it's just a hallucination (this thread is full of such claims) it's good you don't seem to have "bad" highs I've never had one myself.

But I know a bloke that had absolutely the worst trip ever. believes it was the most horrifying experience of his life, It was him who told us never to do it alone.
 
GG is a straight laced, conservative hate-monger that is an "expert" on something he knows absolutely nothing about.

If it's not something you want to do? Fine. There's no reason to attack other people for living a life that is different to yours. I assume that you dress in woman's clothing and parade about the house in poorly applied lipstick... And you know what? Good for you, man. I'm happy you enjoy yourself.

Live and let live. If I take DMT it has no effect on your life whatsoever so mind your own business.

You have no idea how ridiculous you sound, by the way. The experience is so foreign that it really is like explaining colour to a blind man. Right now you're the blind man telling me that colours don't exist. You're literally that ignorant.
 

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