Environment DMT

[nicky]

I'm sorry for starting this thread to be honest. It's like fishing for the most depressing and conservative people in existence.

Unsubbed.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

I'm sorry for starting this thread to be honest. It's like fishing for the most depressing and conservative people in existence.

Unsubbed.

Fine. There's no reason to attack other people for living a life that is different to yours. I assume that you dress in woman's clothing and parade about the house in poorly applied lipstick... And you know what? Good for you, man. I'm happy you enjoy yourself.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

This is the hypocrisy that has been evident the whole way through these ridiculous 11 pages.

You cry "oh woe is me, these conservative hacks who lead depressive lives are saying mean stuff about me" without realising you are doing the same thing. Very funny.

As for my opinion? Shit, go crazy on it (even if you aren't looking for my approval). However, no one here has attacked anybody for choosing to take DMT or whatever drugs. People have questioned the validity of your statements and the safety of the drug in question.

Instead, no information has been told that convinces anybody here that is completely safe, which is my problem because you are essentially urging people to take this drug, assuming that it is safe because you took it last week!

It's just a bit silly to use a blank statement such as "it is completely safe" and then when questioned, you cry that people are attacking you.

Shit, we might sound ridiculous to you, but you know who else we sound ridiculous to? Crazy people.

 

[JD11]

messing with the brain = bad news. clear cut. no ifs/buts about it.

But everything we do messes with the brain!

Sitting on the computer all night? Messing with the brain. Going for a really long run? Messing with the brain. Taking a new stressful job? Messing with the brain. Banging your girlfriend? Messing with the brain. Dropping acid at a playground at 2am on a Tuesday? Messing with the brain.

Psychedelic drugs are anything but 'clear cut'...

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

Sheesh, give Nicky a break. The lass was prolly still euphoric due to DMT.

GG, we get your point

 

[JD11]

I feel like Teffy/Old_Skool/whatever other alias would add some valid stuff to this thread.

 

[exe ex machina]

GG is a straight laced, conservative hate-monger that is an "expert" on something he knows absolutely nothing about.

If it's not something you want to do? Fine. There's no reason to attack other people for living a life that is different to yours. I assume that you dress in woman's clothing and parade about the house in poorly applied lipstick... And you know what? Good for you, man. I'm happy you enjoy yourself.

Live and let live. If I take DMT it has no effect on your life whatsoever so mind your own business.

You have no idea how ridiculous you sound, by the way. The experience is so foreign that it really is like explaining colour to a blind man. Right now you're the blind man telling me that colours don't exist. You're literally that ignorant.

I take umbrage at this comment. I am quite offended. I'll have you know im incredibly talented at it.

 

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

I've always been HUGELY interested in it. Had the chance to have some way back when, but I knew I hadn't had enough experience with psychedelics to delve right into it. Am since a lot more experienced with them, and I only feel now that I'd be prepared to take the next step onto DMT. I was this close *holds finger and thumb a mm away from each other* to getting some until everyone's favourite online marketplace shut down.

Psychs are definitely not for everyone. As someone else has said, it'd be great if everyone experienced them once in their lifetime, but I don't believe everyone is mentally prepared for them. You can't just jump into them willy nilly, that's for sure. Having a bad trip is not fun, and I've seen a couple people freak the hell out their first time on a mild dose of mushrooms.

I'm kind of hoping you're joking, nicky (while I appreciate your enthusiasm about it), when saying people should integrate it into their weekly routine. From what I've read (and that's a whole lot) about DMT, it's not something that you want to be doing all the time. Those that do it without any respect and treat it as a recreational drug (I don't like to call it a drug either), can end up having extremely disturbing trips if they try to push the envelope too many times. And I definitely wouldn't say it would be for everyone either, only maybe something experienced psychedelic users should try. But who am I to say, I haven't done it.

It's an extremely fascinating thing though, and I even get excited when I watch YouTube videos about it. A lot of different theories floating around, about all psychs for that matter, and it's definitely something that should be researched properly, which doesn't look likely the way the world is going these days

 

[little graham]

Cannabis doesn't even come close to being as popular and culturally ingrained as alcohol. But it's significantly more popular than most illegal drugs, which is why it is significantly closer to being legalised.

If pot was legal, do you think it would be used more or less than what it is now, do you think alcohol sales may suffer?

I know alot of pot smokers, they all prefer pot to grog, they don't get angry,hungover, into fights, it is cheaper and enhances there sexuality, not diminishes it.

its illegal because of what again?

 

[Caesar]

It's illegal because it's not too popular to be banned. Alcohol and tobacco would be illegal if they were used by as few people as cannabis. Tobacco is heading that way at a rate of knots.

As for whether cannabis being legal would reduce the amount of drinking, I have no idea. But you could probably get some idea from looking at the trends in Colorado in the US since they legalised it. I would guess not - they are very different kinds of drugs.

 

[Kram]

I wouldn't be bothered if they legalised it but there is no way that weed is totally harmless like most of the potheads would like people to believe.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

This is the hypocrisy that has been evident the whole way through these ridiculous 11 pages.

You cry "oh woe is me, these conservative hacks who lead depressive lives are saying mean stuff about me" without realising you are doing the same thing. Very funny.

As for my opinion? Shit, go crazy on it (even if you aren't looking for my approval). However, no one here has attacked anybody for choosing to take DMT or whatever drugs. People have questioned the validity of your statements and the safety of the drug in question.

Instead, no information has been told that convinces anybody here that is completely safe, which is my problem because you are essentially urging people to take this drug, assuming that it is safe because you took it last week!

It's just a bit silly to use a blank statement such as "it is completely safe" and then when questioned, you cry that people are attacking you.

Shit, we might sound ridiculous to you, but you know who else we sound ridiculous to? Crazy people.

Not entirely, I've attacked the pseudo spiritual clap trap that Proponents of DMT believe they are somehow gaining insight to the universe as a whole.

This is realised by the deliberate wording using the term psychedelics and describing what they experiencing as "breakthroughs"

Every attempt is made to avoid the term's hallucinations and hallucinogenic's despite these terms being more exacting.

It reeks of drug dependency, and desperation to come up with a reason other then experiencing a really great high.

By convincing yourself there's a greater purpose to getting written off provides an excuse to do it more often while avoiding dealing with the idea that you may have an addiction.

It also provides a defence against those suggesting you should stop using or cut down as you can dismiss these people as ignorant of a "greater reality" of which they cant possibly understand.

 

[courtjester]

Hey theres a great new high you must try otherwise you're beneath me.

Pull out one of your fresh turds from the toilet, it must be fresh from the toilet, then coat it completely in cinnamon, and let it dry in room temperature. Then ground down some viagra and some ambien pills, and again coat it with that. Then coat that with a little honey. Now open your mouth and eat that turd up.

Seriously you must try it. You haven't lived. Highly recommend its a weekly staple.

The funny thing is if this was recommended by someone on an internet drug culture group, im positive Nicky et al would try it.

 

[Coolangatta]

Sounds awesome.

 

[little graham]

It's illegal because it's not too popular to be banned. Alcohol and tobacco would be illegal if they were used by as few people as cannabis. Tobacco is heading that way at a rate of knots.

How many people do you think admit to using or preferring an illegal substance compared to those that do partake but deny because of the impact it could have on their work and social life? So I would like to know where you your get information on how popular pot is or is not.

I know coppers who smoke pot.

 

[little graham]

 

[TheFreshBanana]

I don't think you can argue that smoking pot is more popular than drinking alcohol.

 

[exe ex machina]

I don't think you can argue that smoking pot is more popular than drinking alcohol.

You can't. It's false.

 

[little graham]

Anyone posted this yet?

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/08/dmt-drug-produced-our-brain

There is still so much that is unknown about Dimethyltryptamine - the drug produced in our brain that the mind is yet to understand.

Classic example on how paranoid society really is. Scared of something they know nothing about.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Anyone posted this yet?

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/08/dmt-drug-produced-our-brain



Classic example on how paranoid society really is. Scared of something they know nothing about.

That makes sense though, doesn't it? Why would you be scared of something you completely understand??

 

[little graham]

Why would you be scared of something you completely understand??

Thats called respect (when your scared of something you know), when you don't know its called paranoia

 

[Catfish Alley]

Thats called respect (when your scared of something you know), when you don't know its called paranoia

So there is respect and paranoia. When do you use the word 'scared' then?

 

[The Passenger]

So there is respect and paranoia. When do you use the word 'scared' then?

when you get an unexpected phone call from a bird you banged about 5 months prior.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Anyone posted this yet?

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/08/dmt-drug-produced-our-brain



Classic example on how paranoid society really is. Scared of something they know nothing about.

Not really. It's just an example of how much bullshit the people defending it have been saying as "fact" lol.

 

[little graham]

So there is respect and paranoia. When do you use the word 'scared' then?

With DMT, society is clearly paranoid.

If society banned DMT because it makes people serial killers or rapists, wife beaters and dangerous drivers, created cancer epidemics etc etc they would be banning it because they understand what happens. But if they have no idea what DMT does and they ban it, its can be nothing other than paranoia.

I'm scared of White sharks in the places I swim that they're known to feed for snapper at. That fear has lead me to understand where and when they feed, the time of year their food source is around and the appearance of certain birds and the behaviors of other sea life. That fear has lead me to work out when I can swim and spear fish there safety.

If i didn't have respect and knowledge for what I was scared of, i wouldn't and would be stuck in a paranoid state and that paranoia will lead me to hate, which will lead to suffering.

Bit of hate in here..