Do Free Agency rules need to be amended?

Remove this Banner Ad

Bluelegs

Brownlow Medallist
Mar 13, 2012
23,025
38,005
Robbo's sleeve
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Greenbay Packers
Still maintain that one of the biggest problems is the salary cap floor is too high. It means that the worst teams pay almost the same for the list as the top teams (even with the banking over years). Its too hard for them to have enough money in the cap to have enough difference to attract a player.

For example if you had the choice to go to Geelong and contend for a flag right now or go to North for an extra $100k but struggle for the next 3-4 years. Why is it a surprise where players end up?
Agree with this. Means its much more difficult for bottom sides to revitalise their list.
 

Underarm

Norm Smith Medallist
Feb 13, 2011
9,379
11,505
AFL Club
Richmond
exclude the top 4 teams from being able to secure a free agent, stop the strong clubs from raiding weaker ones
eg lynch to richmond and cameron to geelong is what we dont want

Want to go to a club from 6 to 8 to play finals, no problem

Allow bottom 4 clubs benefits to attract free agents, eg X amount outside the salary cap for 3 years of agents contract
Or free agents can move to a bottom 4 club a bit earlier
Yeah maybe the rule should be Geelong have to give up their first 3 picks for Free agents.
 

fpm84

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 7, 2005
11,756
27,950
Melbourne
AFL Club
Geelong
Other Teams
Dallas Mavs, West Ham
Geelong has secured two of the biggest three free agents to leave their clubs in Dangerfield and Cameron (Franklin the other one) yet we have paid four first rounders plus additional picks/players to get them.

Worth it? Absolutely, and any other club would do the same if players of that calibre wanted to join them.

But exactly how is this favouring Victorian clubs?

Especially when AA forwards (Daniher), premiership rucks (Lycett) and AA mids/former club captains (Rockliff) have joined non-Victorian clubs as 'free' agents with their new clubs giving up nothing except salary cap space?
 

Log in to remove this ad.

harrythetiger

Jack Graham That Is 🏆🏆🏆
Sep 13, 2015
17,076
46,137
Hillary Step
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
76ers
exclude the top 4 teams from being able to secure a free agent, stop the strong clubs from raiding weaker ones
eg lynch to richmond and cameron to geelong is what we dont want

Want to go to a club from 6 to 8 to play finals, no problem

Allow bottom 4 clubs benefits to attract free agents, eg X amount outside the salary cap for 3 years of agents contract
Or free agents can move to a bottom 4 club a bit earlier
That's not 'free' agency then is it?
 

Mantastic

Premiership Player
Jun 22, 2011
3,344
3,939
AFL Club
Geelong
Other Teams
Man City, Cleveland Browns
Too many people think free agency is for clubs and try to think up stupid rules to balance it. It's for the players, and gives them a choice of where to take their career. A choice that every other professional has.

It's then up to the clubs to be well run, so that they can lure and retain players. Brisbane, Sydney, Port, and West Coast have all landed gun players from other clubs. The only thing that needs to change with FA is to scrap compensation.

The rules don't favour Victorian clubs, they favour well run clubs. And all clubs have the capacity to hire the right people, if they don't then they deserve to miss out.
 

GhostofJimJess

Norm Smith Medallist
Jan 14, 2002
9,298
4,135
...
AFL Club
Richmond
Scott Lycett, Tom Rockliff, Steven Motlop.

Port Adelaide have picked up more 1st round worthy free agents than any other club.

This idea that free agency favours Victorian clubs is a myth.
Yep.

Scott Lycett signs with Port Power from West Coast as a FA. $3M over 5 years as a 26 year old. End of 1st Round compensation.

Brandon Ellis signs with the Suns from Richmond as a FA. $3M over 5 years as a 26 year old. End of 2nd Round compensation.
 

FreoFan85

Debutant
Jun 29, 2020
142
141
AFL Club
Fremantle
Too many people think free agency is for clubs and try to think up stupid rules to balance it. It's for the players, and gives them a choice of where to take their career. A choice that every other professional has.

It's then up to the clubs to be well run, so that they can lure and retain players. Brisbane, Sydney, Port, and West Coast have all landed gun players from other clubs. The only thing that needs to change with FA is to scrap compensation.

The rules don't favour Victorian clubs, they favour well run clubs. And all clubs have the capacity to hire the right people, if they don't then they deserve to miss out.
Pretty much every trade involves the player deciding where they want to play football. Hell even the draft is compromised with players like Archie Perkins that dictate where or where they will not go.

Every professional does not have a choice in where they are located. All those fifo workers would love the opportunity to not leave their families... obviously they are compensated but so are afl players (obviously rookies aren’t that well compensated)
 

CharlieMortdecai

Premiership Player
Aug 17, 2009
4,468
3,995
AFL Club
North Melbourne
Yep.

Scott Lycett signs with Port Power from West Coast as a FA. $3M over 5 years as a 26 year old. End of 1st Round compensation.

Brandon Ellis signs with the Suns from Richmond as a FA. $3M over 5 years as a 26 year old. End of 2nd Round compensation.
A. Where did you get the contract figures from?
B. Wasn't one in 2018 and the other in 2019?
 

harrythetiger

Jack Graham That Is 🏆🏆🏆
Sep 13, 2015
17,076
46,137
Hillary Step
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
76ers
Yep.

Scott Lycett signs with Port Power from West Coast as a FA. $3M over 5 years as a 26 year old. End of 1st Round compensation.

Brandon Ellis signs with the Suns from Richmond as a FA. $3M over 5 years as a 26 year old. End of 2nd Round compensation.
Ellis was worth second round compensation, but because the exact position of those picks is tied to your ladder position, it is barely different to end of second round if you win the flag. Since exact deals aren't revealed it's probably not BS, just a small difference in Ellis's contract bumped ours down a rung. If we won the spoon it wouldn't have mattered so much.
The massive jumps in value of compensation shouldn't be a thing imo. Compensation should be calculated as a points value and wherever that amount of points fits into the draft, it slots in there.
 

GhostofJimJess

Norm Smith Medallist
Jan 14, 2002
9,298
4,135
...
AFL Club
Richmond
A. Where did you get the contract figures from?
B. Wasn't one in 2018 and the other in 2019?
A.

B. Yes
 

mcgarnacle

Norm Smith Medallist
Dec 2, 2003
8,921
3,103
Inner West
AFL Club
Sydney
One idea, put a cap on the number of free agents each club can pickup over a certain period.
Whether it be so many per year, or x amount over 2/3 years.

It doesn’t put the brakes on the ability for a player to transfer, but it could assist in players being spread more evenly.

Could also incorporate a rule that if a team haven’t qualified for the finals in say x years then they’re allowed to pick up an additional free agent.

Anyways just an idea.
So punish a team for making good decisions with their recruiting, and help a team that makes bad decisions? No thanks.

Geelong are in a window right now, and they've topped up to win a premiership, but they'll crash once all their old (and good) campaigners retire. Richmond the same. It happened to Brisbane, it happened to Hawthorn, it'll eventually happen to Geelong and Richmond.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Remove this Banner Ad