Do it for Bucks

[THATSGOLD]

1990 anyone?? LOL come on dave fire up a bit!

 

[doppleganger]

If the right decision was made, as you say it was, why would they change the rules?

as it is a sour moment having the winner coming from the losing team, as evidenced by the disrespect buckley showed when he couldn't care less about the medal, as he just missed out on achieving the ultimate.

Buckley was the best player on the ground, was the best player the following season, yet his team wasn't good enough to win the ultimate team prize.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

1990 anyone?? LOL come on dave fire up a bit!

Essendon - 16 premierships
Collingwood - 13 permierships.

Checkmate.

 

[doppleganger]

you're forgetting a couple of important factors - persona, presence, influence of a leader. Not always done with goals and stats but there's that tangible that makes a difference to a teams success.

Is an athlete deemed better if they win 5 silver medals than one that has 2 gold?

in a personal or team event??

your trying to equate team success with personal.

 

[Papa G]

I would do it for ducks, I'd do it for ********s............. but I would never do it for Bucks.

 

[THATSGOLD]

thought some prick would take the bait

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

in a personal or team event??

your trying to equate team success with personal.

Just highlighting that winning the ultimate prize should carry more weight even in team sports and when comparing individuals.

 

[DarrenM]

i think its more likely that Bucks will retire without a premership, unfortunately.

 

[Longy413]

as it is a sour moment having the winner coming from the losing team, as evidenced by the disrespect buckley showed when he couldn't care less about the medal, as he just missed out on achieving the ultimate

What the hell are you talking about?

They didn't change the rules so a player on a losing side couldn't win the award.

 

[Johnson#26]

Essendon - 16 premierships
Collingwood - 13 permierships.

Checkmate.

Collingwood - 14 Premierships.

Five goals in 1990?

Essendon are a club I respect, though, got a soft spot for the Dons.

 

[Coin_Toss]

Essendon - 16 premierships
Collingwood - 13 permierships.

Checkmate.

Bwahahaha! At least get it right...

Collingwood - 14 premierships.

 

[doppleganger]

What the hell are you talking about?

They didn't change the rules so a player on a losing side couldn't win the award.

why did they change the rules?? if they actually did.

 

[doppleganger]

Just highlighting that winning the ultimate prize should carry more weight even in team sports and when comparing individuals.

team success, is seperate from individual.

team success highlights teams

it is an irrelevant point

g.ablett is widely acknowledged as one of the most talented individual champions to play the game, he kicked 9 goals in one of the most dominant individual performances ever seen in a GF.

yet came up against an awesome team, so didn't receive any team rewards.

stupid argument equating team success with personal

 

[Longy413]

why did they change the rules?? if they actually did.

How was Michael Voss in the last few minutes of the game?
Make a rather significant impact or not, after the time the award was already decided?

And have you forgotten Chris Judd won a Norm Smith?

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Bwahahaha! At least get it right...

Collingwood - 14 premierships.

Thank you. Corrected.

Essendon - 16 premierships
Collingwood - 14 premierships.

Checkmate.

bwahahahaha.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Essendon - 16 premierships
Collingwood - 13 permierships.

Checkmate.

14 premierships

 

[Lonie_from_50]

team success, is seperate from individual.

team success highlights teams

it is an irrelevant point

g.ablett is widely acknowledged as one of the most talented individual champions to play the game, he kicked 9 goals in one of the most dominant individual performances ever seen in a GF.

yet came up against an awesome team, so didn't receive any team rewards.

stupid argument equating team success with personal

It's our whole argument, however, as mentioned in one of my lengthy posts, it doesn't matter what us Pie supporters bring to the table, it is irrelevant to the rest of the football community because of who we are. Negatives are the only thing seen when anything related to black and white is mentioned.

 

[motumbo]

Bwahahaha! At least get it right...

Collingwood - 14 premierships.

What Kelvin was trying to say is this.

Up to and including 1958:
Collingwood: 13 Flags
Essendon: 10 Flags

After 1958:
Collingwood: 1 Flag
Essendon: 6 Flags

What it shows, is one club has gone forward while the other club lives in the memories of their past glories.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

What Kelvin was trying to say is this.

Up to and including 1958:
Collingwood: 13 Flags
Essendon: 10 Flags

After 1958:
Collingwood: 1 Flag
Essendon: 6 Flags

What it shows, is one club has gone forward while the other club lives in the memories of their past glories.

After 2001:
Collingwood: 0 Flags
Essendon: 0 Flags

What is shows, is both clubs suck???

After 2002:
Collingwood: 2 GF Appearances
Essendon: 0 GF Appearances

What it shows is Essendon is crap and Collingwood are better.

ie. 1958 onwards = 2002 onwards...not even worth bringing up

 

[Didaics]

Sounds like Robert Harvey.

Cept he froze up in a granny

 

[JOELY]

aww, this is embarrassing.

 

[thepower]

so bucks has two BOG's in grand finals
two best player in the league, ie Brownlow & Magarey

throw in the rising star which he beat voss & hird to easily

bucks is the most decorated player

just happened to play for a dud teams in the AFL, originally brisbane bears, then collingwood.

Your last statement is 100% true.

Bolded part needs some work. From memory he won only 1 norm smith?

 

[Warwick]

yep voss played in 4 GF's and was never BOG.

hird, buckley have done this, they are big game players

I knew you were an idiot but this just ices the cake. Voss is not a big game player?

They changed the Norm Smith voting rules in 2002 because most people were off the opinion that Voss had a larger influence (particularly in that last quarter). Unfortunately the votes were submitted before he turned it on and won the game.

Btw, how many Brisbane games have you seen? I'm tipping you haven't seen many. Voss was our greatest finals player since 1995.

 

[Warwick]

why did they change the rules?? if they actually did.

Didn't read this part before.

Yep, proves you are an idiot.

 

[Longy413]

Didn't read this part before.

Yep, proves you are an idiot.

He actually thought they changed the rule so players of losing sides couldn't win it.

He knows his stuff.....