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Many of you guys are loosing faith, I have seen at least 3 posts of supporters saying they are at their wits end and even one saying "freo are dead to me".
Comon guys hang in there, I mean comon we have been through worse, the next option is what eagles?? Pfft Id prefer to support collingwood.....
Suck it up people, atm were an embarrassment, so what has changed?
My opinion is its still the coach, we know what were capable of and he cant get them there consistently!
Lets take a crack at sheedy.
 

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Many of you guys are loosing faith, I have seen at least 3 posts of supporters saying they are at their wits end and even one saying "freo are dead to me".
Comon guys hang in there, I mean comon we have been through worse, the next option is what eagles?? Pfft Id prefer to support collingwood.....
Suck it up people, atm were an embarrassment, so what has changed?
My opinion is its still the coach, we know what were capable of and he cant get them there consistently!
Lets take a crack at sheedy.
i am sick of it being the coach.
Maybe it is just the club.
 

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I reckon most people could tolerate regardless of results if the boys had a honest, red hot crack every week but they don't , they only play well when they are the hunters, when they are hunted they do not stack up to the pressure.Very frustrating team to follow but you don't jump off even if ya 0-22. Stick Fat.
 

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Many of you guys are loosing faith, I have seen at least 3 posts of supporters saying they are at their wits end and even one saying "freo are dead to me".
Comon guys hang in there, I mean comon we have been through worse, the next option is what eagles?? Pfft Id prefer to support collingwood.....
Suck it up people, atm were an embarrassment, so what has changed?
My opinion is its still the coach, we know what were capable of and he cant get them there consistently!
Lets take a crack at sheedy.
That's exactly what I said Sabre.

It's a disgrace when people start to lose faith. Get it together.

CC is our problem. We've got a great list, yet the only thing he manages to do consistently is to screw us over.

How can one guy be so bloody thick? Has he heard of strategy and tactic? I'm going to call this dire phenomenon the 'Hawthorn Conspiracy'.

Either he is a Hawthorn plant to make us absolutely shocking. Or he is an obvious result of the teaching of Peter Schwab.

The alarm bells are ringing for the 'Hawthorn Conspiracy'.
 

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We were systematicly raped tonight. I don't ever want to hear a Brisbane fan complain about Goldspink again.

The man changes his interptetation to suit the circumstance.
Of the 14 free's that we got 3 were OOB on the full and 5 were soft ones in the defensive 50 when we already had possesion.

Yet when Brown is caught holding the ball it is somehow a free kick to him.

When our boys are held without possesion it is play on.

When I saw Goldspink was allocated to our game I knew we were in trouble.
 

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agreed. We got destroyed. Pav's mark in the 3rd? quarter was a disgrace, and it cost us 1 goal + 1 goal turn around. ********ing absurd.
 

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We were systematicly raped tonight. I don't ever want to hear a Brisbane fan complain about Goldspink again.

The man changes his interptetation to suit the circumstance.
Of the 14 free's that we got 3 were OOB on the full and 5 were soft ones in the defensive 50 when we already had possesion.

Yet when Brown is caught holding the ball it is somehow a free kick to him.

When our boys are held without possesion it is play on.

When I saw Goldspink was allocated to our game I knew we were in trouble.
I'm at a total loss to describe the umpiring, poor to say the least incompetence bordering on stupidity at best.
  1. But then when you cant kick the ball to a teammate so that its markable.
  2. You cant mark a ball.
  3. You are more interested in being in a group of your teamates who are not within 25m of your direct opponent or any opponent
What do you expect from the umpires, miracles ?
 

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umpires had ******** all to do with it!!!

people are just sick and tired of crap!

had enough of 10 years with 1 finals apperance...

to make it even worse we have a side that can win (beating geelong and melbourne) but we arnt because the coach is to ********en stupid!

its like a big kick in the nuts....

God help the club get a major sponser next year if this season is another ******** up!
 

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Goldspink did just enough to create second guessing from the Freo players.

He has been around long enough to know critical times, hot moments and obviously how to dismantle a team's confidence. Which he did tonight.


How about j.carr holding the ball just before 1/2 time. I dont usaully go balistic. But I think I chucked a little tantrum when he called it :confused:

On the bright side.

Sydney are probably sh1tting themselves now. :D
 

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umpires had ******** all to do with it!!!

people are just sick and tired of crap!

had enough of 10 years with 1 finals apperance...

to make it even worse we have a side that can win (beating geelong and melbourne) but we arnt because the coach is to ********en stupid!

its like a big kick in the nuts....

God help the club get a major sponser next year if this season is another ******** up!
You're taking the loss well :p



No way am I losing faith in the TEAM

Connolly? Well.....
 

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CC was ********ing terrible tonight. The guy was totally schooled on coaching. Freo talk about how we're a big powerful club "off the field". We need to get serious at the end of the season, and headhunt a bigname coach, and get the guy down here to coach. CC is obviously not up to the task. Hes not the worst coach in the AFL, but hes not in the top 10 either.
 
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Ripper 46 you're not an Connolly/Schwabb alias are you? blaming the umpires for that effort shows a complete lack of understanding of what occured at subi tonite. as someone has said tonite Dockers are great at being the hunters but can't handle being hunted.


Connolly and his "assistants" were out coached and connoly's players- our players were out played.

Connolly tonite said at the press conf that the match comm thought that having J.Brown in the centre bouncedowns was in the dockers favour because he was not upm forward kciking goals. However, the turnig point in the game was when J.Brown went into cewntre square from 2nd Q effected hesaps of clearences.

Connoly reacted late in the game but it was too late.
 

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I reserve the right to be absolutely PO'd at that performance.

There were some shocking decisions tonight but mainly form our team (dont worry I'll support em till I die but that was disgraceful).

All summed up for me when Brown was called to play on after an infringment from Pav, Schofield was %#$@^* standing next to Brown and didnt appear like he could be bothered tackling him.

Our boys (well 95%) gave up in that last quarter and its a worry.
 

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My opinion is its still the coach, we know what were capable of and he cant get them there consistently!
Lets take a crack at sheedy.
Seriously, who you need (if you could get him) is Malthouse. I know he's Darth Vader to the Freo faithful and all, but if there's anything he's good at, its developing a list to its full potential (when you get there, ditch him though as he is good at running a list back down as well).

He would get you into a GF or two. Hell, he did it with Collingwood, and they never had half the talent your lot have.
 

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I particularly liked this quote from Connolly after the game

"The first stage of learning is understanding, and we need to understand how important consistency is,"

No Chris, the first stage of learning is finding a decent teacher, particularly one who isn't the coaching incarnation of the Pop'n'Fresh doughboy.
 

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Seriously, who you need (if you could get him) is Malthouse. I know he's Darth Vader to the Freo faithful and all, but if there's anything he's good at, its developing a list to its full potential (when you get there, ditch him though as he is good at running a list back down as well).

He would get you into a GF or two. Hell, he did it with Collingwood, and they never had half the talent your lot have.
Q I loves you Bro but say that again and you pick - pistols or sabres at 20 feet.
 

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Ripper 46 you're not an Connolly/Schwabb alias are you? blaming the umpires for that effort shows a complete lack of understanding of what occured at subi tonite. as someone has said tonite Dockers are great at being the hunters but can't handle being hunted.


Connolly and his "assistants" were out coached and connoly's players- our players were out played.

Connolly tonite said at the press conf that the match comm thought that having J.Brown in the centre bouncedowns was in the dockers favour because he was not upm forward kciking goals. However, the turnig point in the game was when J.Brown went into cewntre square from 2nd Q effected hesaps of clearences.

Connoly reacted late in the game but it was too late.
Belnakor said:
CC was ********ing terrible tonight. The guy was totally schooled on coaching. Freo talk about how we're a big powerful club "off the field". We need to get serious at the end of the season, and headhunt a bigname coach, and get the guy down here to coach. CC is obviously not up to the task. Hes not the worst coach in the AFL, but hes not in the top 10 either.
what did CC do wrong? everyone says he is terrible crap, but noone actually can tell me what he has done wrong.
How was Connolly suppose to stop brown? We were saying the exact same thing about pav last year, whats the point of playing Pav in the center if there is noone to kick goals. CC has since moved pav to CHF. Bris isplaying Brown in a pav(2003/4) like role,Midfielders like hasleby carr should be able to win te ball out of the center regardless of who is playing in there
Stop bagging Connnolly, Connolly knows more about football then anyoneon this board. If you don't know what you are talking about just keep your mouth shut, some people on here clearly need to just keep there mouth shut.
 

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Just the same holding the ball rule and and holding the man rule for both sides would be a start.
I'm not disagreeing but last night umpiring was the least of the probs that Freo faced or has to overcome. The committment and ability to put in when its needed is also important.

As an aside I just find it unimaginable that Freo doesnt make a stand and put some pressure on the AFL and umpires to lift their game.

We regularly get bad calls against us. Respect shouldnt have anything to do with it, its the pressure on the umpires knowing that they are being scrutinised and will be pulled up on it that will lift their game.

The AFL has created "protected species" out of the umpires, there is no pressure to perform consistently.

The comments from CC and Schwab about thats no excuse for the result blah blah is only half right. Perhaps making a stand and paying $20,000 to put the umpires under some intense media scrutiny would make them pull their fingers out. It would also show that Freo wont bendover and take it up the arse like it does from the media to the Vic-centric AFL and teams.

rant over!
 

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what did CC do wrong? everyone says he is terrible crap, but noone actually can tell me what he has done wrong.
How was Connolly suppose to stop brown? We were saying the exact same thing about pav last year, whats the point of playing Pav in the center if there is noone to kick goals. CC has since moved pav to CHF. Bris isplaying Brown in a pav(2003/4) like role,Midfielders like hasleby carr should be able to win te ball out of the center regardless of who is playing in there
Stop bagging Connnolly, Connolly knows more about football then anyoneon this board. If you don't know what you are talking about just keep your mouth shut, some people on here clearly need to just keep there mouth shut.
brown had 29 touches for the entire game!!

after the center bounce he went foward and stopped following the ball!!!

he was only in the center bounce for a miss match and god knows how many clearnces we got.... if it was so so working in our favour BBgun why did CC finaly change and put someone on him late in the 4th term!?!?

i think your the only person here that dosent know what there talking about!
 

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people are just sick and tired of crap!

had enough of 10 years with 1 finals apperance...

to make it even worse we have a side that can win (beating geelong and melbourne) but we arnt because the coach is to ********en stupid!

its like a big kick in the nuts....

God help the club get a major sponser next year if this season is another ******** up!
Yesterday 22:14



I feel the same way like many others. Just like that supporter who ripped off his jumper and headed for it to the toilets.

Enough is enough. Time to grafitti pathetic and disgraceful on the club walls just like Crows fand did when their side got smashed last year.
 

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Seriously, who you need (if you could get him) is Malthouse. I know he's Darth Vader to the Freo faithful and all, but if there's anything he's good at, its developing a list to its full potential (when you get there, ditch him though as he is good at running a list back down as well).
Forgive me father for I have sinned.

That thought has crossed my mind also.

For penance I will watch any of the 16 derbies won by "that" lot (yes I understand "Love thy neighbour" but sometimes we have to make exceptions and I am sure you will agree this is one of them), and will think only good and pure thoughts featuring strapping young men in purple with the #29 on their back. To increase my discomfort I will keep only the backside (and legs) view in mind.



Seriously: Moo, I have taken a long time to turn, but the Dark Side beckons and I believe we could do worse than Lord Vader. We seem to be living that "worse" now. :(
 
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