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My insanity from last night has subsided by my anger hasn't by any means. Last night, amidst my "insanity" I posted "Freo are dead to me", a claim which, even though I was in no fit state to be posting (admittedly) is nearly smack on. As supporters we have sat through the worst, some good times followed by another lot of bad times...which is followed by another 6 months of bad times. I thought we'd turned a corner against Geelong but to come out and play like they did last night shows that we can't go anywhere with Connolly in charge.

Admittedly the players are those that played like cr*p but it's the coaches fault for their mindset. For not being tougher, stricter on the players thus they think they can get away with anything. Connolly has to go. The wins against Melbourne and Geelong have shown how good we can play if we have a good mindset, the losses to Hawthorn and Brisbane at home have shown though that we can't continue with good form.

My faith in the players dangles by a thread, my faith and patience with Connolly and the coaching staff has gone out the window. We aren't going to make finals or go anywhere with CC in charge and if Schwab doesn't do something about it soon, then he has to go aswell because we can't have a club based around mates.

I'm not gonna give in on Freo but by god I'm am absolutely LIVID at them at the moment :mad:
 

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The umpiring ultimately made no difference. No excuses this time.
Brisbane didn't even play all that great, we just sucked sooooooooooooo much that it made it incredibly easy for them. I've never seen so many contributions to the end of year bloopers reel in one match, the mistakes we made are just beyond a joke. Seriously, by the time the 4th quarter came around, they should have put 'little spanish flea' or some other comedy tune over the Subi PA system to really set the mood of what was happening on the ground, at least I would have had a bit of a laugh. Giving players like McManus a game after he almost single handedly lost us the Geelong game a week earlier probably isn't the best idea either.
Quite concerned as to where we go from here..... :eek:
 

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Kapow!!! said:
I'm not gonna give in on Freo but by god I'm am absolutely LIVID at them at the moment :mad:
Those are the words I like to hear.

Of course we all have the right to be furious at that performance, considering the dominance we once held at Subi.

But, as always, we will come back from this, and that is why we all support Freo. For the inevitable bounce back that leaves our critics guessing.
 

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Last night leaving the game (after the final siren)I noticed something totally different from the fans.Normally win lose or draw the crowd is noisy talkative but last night we seemed to be very quiet with a silent seething anger at what we had just seen
About time efforts like last night are not good enough.I will still follow the Dockers but I will not accept incipid performances
Too bad Matthews has signed till 2007
He is a real coach
 

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blaming the umpires is not the answer: what then was the problem against Hawthorn?

Big Jonathon Brown carved us up when he went into the centre and we didnt react. That to me is poor coaching.

Alot and I mean alot of people that were sitting around us were very mad. If things arent turned around I can not see up getting in the finals and also can see a dramatic drop in membership.
 

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There's no doubt in my mind that we continually get raped by the umpires, but that doesn't take away the fact that we can play like absolute pussies sometimes. While I've had it with CC, its not all the coach's fault...
 

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Why is the coach the first to blame when you lose yet the players get all the accolades when the team wins? In my opinion the players take as much blame as the coach for the debacle on saturday night. I knew in the first 5 minutes it was gonna be a long night when Pav didn't look his usual self.
 

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#34
pav_is_god said:
There's no doubt in my mind that we continually get raped by the umpires, but that doesn't take away the fact that we can play like absolute pussies sometimes. While I've had it with CC, its not all the coach's fault...
True. If we're going to blame the umpires, we should at least do it when we win. CC missed a golden opportunity to have a crack at the maggots last week after the Geelong game, and he would have done so with credibility. You reckon guys like Sheedy, Malthouse and Matthews would let the umpires give their sides a run like we seem to get 4 out of every 5 weeks? They'd get in the media, give them at the very least a subtle kick in the balls and let them know that if they give them a bad deal again, they're going to get nailed in the media again. And it works, because umpires then have it in the heads subconsciously. They are human and want to avoid getting criticised.

After all, it was no coincidence that after the Hird-McLaren incident, Essendon got the biggest rainbow ride from the umpires ever seen. Some of the decisions in the Essendon-Sydney game were so unbelievably biased there should have been a royal commission into it.

Unfortunately, if CC got into the press conference on Saturday night and bagged them for giving guys like Brown preferential treatment it would have been seen as just an excuse for losing and playing like a bunch of pansies.
 

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#35
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True. If we're going to blame the umpires, we should at least do it when we win. CC missed a golden opportunity to have a crack at the maggots last week after the Geelong game, and he would have done so with credibility. You reckon guys like Sheedy, Malthouse and Matthews would let the umpires give their sides a run like we seem to get 4 out of every 5 weeks? They'd get in the media, give them at the very least a subtle kick in the balls and let them know that if they give them a bad deal again, they're going to get nailed in the media again. And it works, because umpires then have it in the heads subconsciously. They are human and want to avoid getting criticised.

After all, it was no coincidence that after the Hird-McLaren incident, Essendon got the biggest rainbow ride from the umpires ever seen. Some of the decisions in the Essendon-Sydney game were so unbelievably biased there should have been a royal commission into it.

Unfortunately, if CC got into the press conference on Saturday night and bagged them for giving guys like Brown preferential treatment it would have been seen as just an excuse for losing and playing like a bunch of pansies.

Fair comment.

If anyone (on BF) complains about umpiring after losing a game 'stop sooking or build a bridge' gets thrown up. We have all seen it.

I knew we got a bit of a pasting from the maggots Sat night. Not until I read this mornings West liftout did I see the for/against tally. It is wrong wrong wrong effen wrong. As I said Sat night after the game Goldspink did enough to demoralise our guys. I aggree with ripper . That maggot raped (sorry to offend anybody in the real world) our guys, he was the leader and had his offsiders were getting a bit as well. Halfway through the last 1/4 I thought they are going to start to even the tally. They didnt. They just kept at and at it.

If I was a conspiracy theorist I say Fremantle was used to keep brizzy in the hunt. How else can you explain a 14/23 free count.

As for CC or Fremantle having a crack through the press. Bad move. Sit back cop it sweet. Thats the only way to get respect. Sooner or later the media will stop ignoring the obvious will have good crack at the AFL and its umpires. The Fremantle Footy Club can get credibility by not complaining.

Does anybody know the last 2 times we had the better of a free kick count.

Where can I find the stats.

(now I wait for the trolls to pounce)
 

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How do you make a complaint to the umpires as a member of the public. There used to be an umpies website that you could email. Anyone know it?
 

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#38
BB gun said:
i am sick of it being the coach.
Maybe it is just the club.

Now there is a theory that deserves further consideration!

No one on this site has been more critical of your Coach than I and it's somewhat amusing to read the derogatory comments on here, very similar to ones I made and was abused, pilloried and eventually banned for.
It's time a lot of you had an in depth look at some of your player group and come to the realisation that there are individuals within that group who mentally soft when it comes to decision making under pressure. I have no doubt that some of that group were still living in the euphoria of the previous week and thought that the game against the Lions would be a breeze and played accordingly.
You can blame the Coach and the Umpires for some things but you can't blame them for everything.
 

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YAKUZA said:
Now there is a theory that deserves further consideration!

No one on this site has been more critical of your Coach than I and it's somewhat amusing to read the derogatory comments on here, very similar to ones I made and was abused, pilloried and eventually banned for.
It's time a lot of you had an in depth look at some of your player group and come to the realisation that there are individuals within that group who mentally soft when it comes to decision making under pressure. I have no doubt that some of that group were still living in the euphoria of the previous week and thought that the game against the Lions would be a breeze and played accordingly.
You can blame the Coach and the Umpires for some things but you can't blame them for everything.
Fair call Yak.

You might be on the right track that some of the players are playing "soft".

Lets be honest :-

Des makes seagulls look tough.
Webster is not playing anywhere like his ancestors.
Hase seems tentative.
Josh Carr has gone back into his shell.
Polly needs to give the CHF some good thumps in the back of the head (in a marking contest).
JLo can be more authorative.
211 is learning to impose his size, he needs to sit on a couple in a pack.
As a rule our backline is not physical, quick and manouverable -yes.

At the end of it, the 22 players who go on the field have alot to say about the result of the game. Are the players too scared to make on the spot decisions and be creative?, or must they always stay to the team plan?. eg. kick to Z back to A over to H back to Z, instead kick the ball long to open spaces on the wing.
 
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My issue with CC is his inconsistency. Its not surprising we have an inconsistent team.

In 2004, where did CC say Headland was best suited. HBF where he has a point of reference. Where has he been played in 2005? HFF.

Who was to be the captain of the backline this year? Matty Carr. Where has he been playing? In the midfield

Where did Dion train all summer? As a HFF. How long did he last there? About one half of footy.

Where did Luke Webster play in the EF of 2003? On a wing. Where has he been played this year? On a HFF, as a defending forward.

Why isn't Schammer getting a game? He isn't fully fit. So why the hell was he played on Shane Crawford in the Hawthorn game?

And we are 3.5 seasons in and he has failed to establish and to maintain a consistent, high performance, win at all costs mentalility within the playing group.
 

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I think Yakuza makes a good point there are definitely Freo players who give the impression by the way they play that everything will work out ok without realising that they have to make it happen.
 

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#43
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My issue with CC is his inconsistency. Its not surprising we have an inconsistent team.

In 2004, where did CC say Headland was best suited. HBF where he has a point of reference. Where has he been played in 2005? HFF.

Who was to be the captain of the backline this year? Matty Carr. Where has he been playing? In the midfield

Where did Dion train all summer? As a HFF. How long did he last there? About one half of footy.

Where did Luke Webster play in the EF of 2003? On a wing. Where has he been played this year? On a HFF, as a defending forward.

Why isn't Schammer getting a game? He isn't fully fit. So why the hell was he played on Shane Crawford in the Hawthorn game?

And we are 3.5 seasons in and he has failed to establish and to maintain a consistent, high performance, win at all costs mentalility within the playing group.

To be fair Ralph some of those changes were the right thing to do.

HFF is Headlands best position, 5 goals proved that. He would be a liability down back and I don't know why CC suggested playing him on a HBF.

It would have been great to have Matt Carr roaming across half back but with Schammer, Browne, Schofield out, and Bell and Hasleby playing injured we needed him in the middle and was in our best 3 playes for the season until he was injured.

Dion's disinterested and is playing at Perth, where he should stay.

I agree with you on Webster.

Schammer was the only person in the 22 for that game that would have the pace to go with Bulger, but wasn't fit and shouldn't have played.

I agree with you on the mentality of the playing group.
 

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Dr Ralph Dagg said:
My issue with CC is his inconsistency. Its not surprising we have an inconsistent team.

In 2004, where did CC say Headland was best suited. HBF where he has a point of reference. Where has he been played in 2005? HFF.

Who was to be the captain of the backline this year? Matty Carr. Where has he been playing? In the midfield

Where did Dion train all summer? As a HFF. How long did he last there? About one half of footy.

Where did Luke Webster play in the EF of 2003? On a wing. Where has he been played this year? On a HFF, as a defending forward.

Why isn't Schammer getting a game? He isn't fully fit. So why the hell was he played on Shane Crawford in the Hawthorn game?

And we are 3.5 seasons in and he has failed to establish and to maintain a consistent, high performance, win at all costs mentalility within the playing group.
These are very good points and I could not agree more. I am totally "baffled" at times with the very issues you raised. He plans one thing and does something totally different. It also "irks" me that he does not give Murphy a full game. I just think he ruins players confidence with his inconsistency.
 
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