Strange that he turned out a much more lucrative contract at the Dogs to choose us given their list is choc full of talent.Didn't work and we stuck to our guns which was well below the Dogs offer.
Happy he chose us on a reduced salary honestly and is not just chasing the money but more team environment on where he thinks he will fit in the best.
He has huge upside and i know most Carlton supporters are welcoming him with open arms in what is our greatest area of need talent wise regarding small forwards who are versatile and can play elsewhere.
Sorry mate, but you will have to help me out a little bit as I don't pay much attention to what PaulineYou’re using the exact same argument Pauline Hanson has been using recently, I thought it would be obvious.
It definitely helps when you have other indigenous players and a support program/indigenous welfare officer in place to help lads who come from the regions (though many indigenous boys don't). I also think coaches and team mates willing to take the time out and get to know kids that come from different backgrounds, meet their families or spend time in the community bonds a player to a club, and helps them to be welcomed.What's your view? This is from the Hun, and Peter Gordon acknowldges as much.
Who was the last indigenous player on your list? Clay Smith?
Why would you bring logical reasoning into this debate?Sounds like a bit of a bulls**t reason considering Fremantle have the most indigenous players in the competition and Martin has already ruled out us out. So clearly indigenous mates isn't the biggest concern for him.
Is Cox going to be in the side this week? My point is the Bulldogs - nor any side - can't be criticised for not drafting players who can't get a game and the average number of Indigenous players in teams best sides (as judged by finals) is quite low, statistically there's little significance between having 2 of 22 or 0 of 22.3. Christensen, Cameron, Cox.
Of course not and I look at Geelong who have recruited a good number of Indigenous players over the last 5 years from all around the country, but if the draft doesn't fall their way then that's just how it goes. The WA teams have a bit of an advantage with a number of guys going home (Hamling, Matera, Wilson, Hill, Jetta etc) and soon to be Tim Kelly as well as a closer look at the local guys. Oh and Kelly would be handy for the Dogs but I don't think Parfitt or Narkle get a game for the doggies with their midfield depth.they dont have to draft them from victoria
When Jy Simpkin got on the turps early last year and had a career near death experience getting hit by a motor bike he was taken under the wing of Jed Anderson and Ben Cunnington and brought on their fishing trips.It definitely helps when you have other indigenous players and a support program/indigenous welfare officer in place to help lads who come from the regions (though many indigenous boys don't). I also think coaches and team mates willing to take the time out and get to know kids that come from different backgrounds, meet their families or spend time in the community bonds a player to a club, and helps them to be welcomed.
I remember when Simmo went up to the Tiwi Islands, to meet the Riolis. He took his kids and another coach. If a player comes from a community where family and the land is everything, then respecting those things and taking that journey provides a connection between peoples and club. May sound silly to some, but AFL asks so much of these guys in terms of lifestyle and travel. Yes, many get paid good money, but that's not always the most important thing. See Cyril. Being welcomed and having a connection to home or your values through those around you shouldn't be dismissed.
But better resourced clubs and those with old heads about the place, can spot these boys and offer the right environment. Sometimes though, you have to actively look for and empower mentors. I'm so glad WC traded for Lewis Jetta. I feel like Goodes was great team mate to have and Jetta has brought that leadership across to WC and tried to be that guide and teacher for Ryan etc.
Thanks Karl Langdon.Indigenous: Originating in or being native to a particular place.
I would argue that we are all indigenous in one way or another, where I was born we have clans that
contain many family branches. History is usually written by the people that win and conquer which
is sad. We are all in the same race it's called the human race.
We don't have any Irish players either, it's an outrage.
Wth is that real?It's not like they have a blatant racist 'no black fellas' recruiting policies a certain Melbourne based club had until the 90s.
Yeah, but the post I was quoting was talking about those playing week one of the finals - Bobby was an emergency, didn’t actually play.Bobby Hill as well.
Bonar has a Papuan mum.
Ahh my bad, I get it.Yeah, but the post I was quoting was talking about those playing week one of the finals - Bobby was an emergency, didn’t actually play.
We also have Delma Gisu on our AFLW list.
The club plays an excellent Welcome to Country video on the big screen before each game that features all four talking about their tribe and their totem.